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[Croatoan]

Statistics from an outside investigation have emerged to show that 17 women claim to have been sexually assaulted by 19 athletes, including 4 gang rapes.

Full article here: http://www.wsj.com/articles/baylor-details-horrifying-alleged-sexual-assaults-by-football-players-1477681988

Baylor Details ‘Horrifying’ Alleged Sexual Assaults by Football Players

The sexual-violence scandal at Baylor University that cost its celebrated football coach his job involved 17 women who reported sexual or domestic assaults involving 19 players, including four alleged gang rapes, since 2011, according to Baylor regents.

Baylor fired coach Art Briles in May for failing to deal with sexual-violence allegations involving his squad, but provided only a vague description of the alleged improprieties at the time. Legions of fans and donors rallied to his cause.

Now, in interviews with The Wall Street Journal, regents who oversee the university are offering for the first time publicly more detailed findings from an outside investigation conducted by Philadelphia law firm Pepper Hamilton LLP. The probe showed some Baylor players allegedly participated in what one regent calls a “horrifying and painful” series of assaults over several years.

This is a clear cut case for the death penalty. Baylor football should be made an example of at the very least. The NCAA is shitting all over the women it is supposed to protect by doing nothing.

edit. could a mod change it to sexual assaults in the title and not rapes (I misspoke and don't want to derail).

In case there's confusion, this is what people mean by death penalty

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_penalty_(NCAA)

 

[El_Presidente]

What makes it even more sickening is the victim blaming that has come from the fans/students/donors/regents/chancellor/alumni.....

Its like they all just stuff their fingers in their ears and say, "nananananan, those girls were drinking at a house party, what did they THINK would happen??!? The coach is there for football, not to report multiple rapes by his players!"

They have tried to get the guy back since this story broke and STILL have the assistant coaches that he "delegated down" still employed by the university.... its truly evil.

 

[VendettaRed07]

Death penalty.

Now.

 

[entremet]

College Football seems ripe for this stuff (Penn State) because of the deification of these programs. Same with some HS programs.

The issue is a lack of accountability.

 

[Reptars Revenge]

They won't get the death penalty. Postseason ban and loss of scholarships.

 

[caliph95]

Death penalty.

Now.

But think about their careers, their lives are ruined because of this. They are the victim here

Spoiler

/s just in case no one gets it.

. Don't agree with death penalty but they deserve long time in jail

 

[FTF]

That's sickening. Fucking terrible.

 

[The Llama]

Did OP really use the term "gang bang" tho 👀

 

[Croatoan]

What makes it even more sickening is the victim blaming that has come from the fans/students/donors/regents/chancellor/alumni.....

Its like they all just stuff their fingers in their ears and say, "nananananan, those girls were drinking at a house party, what did they THINK would happen??!? The coach is there for football, not to report multiple rapes by his players!"

They have tried to get the guy back since this story broke and STILL have the assistant coaches that he "delegated down" still employed by the university.... its truly evil.

Baylor has a delusion fan base and always has. Historically they are barely a mid major program, but they got a taste of greatness from Briles and now see the giant maw of irrelevance coming to swallow them hole. They will go down kicking and screaming all while tarnishing the image of their "Christian" school.

Some advice, never go to Waco. My wife is from there and I hate visiting her parents. Not because I dislike them, but because Waco is terrible and Baylor is worse.

Did OP really use the term "gang bang" tho ��

Fixed it for you.

 

[breakfastchampion]

Did OP really use the term "gang bang" tho 👀

Good question, big difference between gang bang and gang rape.

 

[RecRoulette]

Disgusting.

 

[FStop7]

Baylor's as cultish as Penn State so expect that.

 

[VendettaRed07]

But think about their careers, their lives are ruined because of this. They are the victim here

Spoiler

/s just in case no one gets it.

. Don't agree with death penalty but they deserve long time in jail

I think it should happen because they need to start setting an example. Coaches will continue to turn a blind eye to this stuff for the sake of the football program. They need to be made aware there will be NO football at all if they see this sort of thing going on and say nothing.

edit:Oh...

I wasn't talking about killing them.. I don't believe in that sort of death penalty. I meant kill the football program.

 

[Croatoan]

Good question, big difference between gang bang and gang rape.

I misstyped,I apologizes if I offended.

 

[Tall4Life]

But think about their careers, their lives are ruined because of this. They are the victim here

Spoiler

/s just in case no one gets it.

. Don't agree with death penalty but they deserve long time in jail

This. They should be punished to the greatest extent of the law barring the death penalty. It's not a solution, it's revenge.

Lock em the fuck up.

 

[entremet]

Did OP really use the term "gang bang" tho 👀

Let it go. It was a mistake. Jeez.

 

[Levyne]

In case there's confusion, this is what people mean by death penalty

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_penalty_(NCAA)

 

[my name is ed]

Kill the baylor program. Absolutely disgusting

 

[kirblar]

When people say Death Penalty here, they mean the program.

 

[Croatoan]

This. They should be punished to the greatest extent of the law barring the death penalty. It's not a solution, it's revenge.

Lock em the fuck up.

The death penalty would serve as a warning to other schools to not let this happen. If not the death penalty then they should not be able to recruit for 1 entire season.

Baylor should be made an example of.

edit: ohh, sorry death penalty here is killing the football program for a set number of years.

 

[RPGCrazied]

Kicked out of school and scholarships revoked, some jail time as well. The death penalty is a little much.

EDIT: Just saw what death penalty means in sports, oh ok, that too.

 

[Ambient80]

But think about their careers, their lives are ruined because of this. They are the victim here

Spoiler

/s just in case no one gets it.

. Don't agree with death penalty but they deserve long time in jail

I think he's referring to the NCAA "death penalty" like SMU got back in the day. Not actual death for the rapists. And I have to agree with him, Baylor should have their program killed for several years over this.

 

[caliph95]

This. They should be punished to the greatest extent of the law barring the death penalty. It's not a solution, it's revenge.

Lock em the fuck up.

It's also hard to come back from when you realize you caught the wrong person. Not saying they didn't do it but i have problem with it by principal. Unless the persona is the actual devil or anti christ, Death penalty should't be an option.

 

[Croatoan]

I think he's referring to the NCAA "death penalty" like SMU got back in the day. Not actual death for the rapists. And I have to agree with him, Baylor should have their program killed for several years over this.

This is correct, I am not calling for the killing of anyone.

It's also hard to come back from when you realize you caught the wrong person. Not saying they didn't do it but i have problem with it by principal. Unless the persona is the actual devil or anti christ, Death penalty should't be an option.

Death Penalty for the program not the person.

 

[makingmusic476]

Rapes are terrible enough, but gang rapes are absolutely horrifying.

 

[caliph95]

I think he's referring to the NCAA "death penalty" like SMU got back in the day. Not actual death for the rapists. And I have to agree with him, Baylor should have their program killed for several years over this.

Oh in that case fuck 'em. Never heard it use that way so i got confused. The more you know i guess.

 

[entremet]

When people say Death Penalty here, they mean the program.

Yeah, if you're not aware of the NCAA rules it can sound confusing, especially since the original Death Penalty has been used for rapes in the distant past.

 

[Zackat]

Baylor football needs the Death Penalty.

 

[spekkeh]

In case there's confusion, this is what people mean by death penalty

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_penalty_(NCAA)

Oh lol yeah this thread had me majorly scratching my head. Can't believe I'm in favor of the death penalty in this case.

 

[caliph95]

Yeah, if you're not aware of the NCAA rules it can sound confusing, especially since the Death Penalty has been used for rapes in the distant past.

Yeah hence my confusion.

Oh lol yeah this thread had me majorly scratching my head. Can't believe I'm in favor of the death penalty in this case.

Me too lol.

 

[Tansut]

Yeah, if you're not aware of the NCAA rules it can sound confusing, especially since the Death Penalty has been used for rapes in the distant past.

Yeah, I was like geeze guys that's a bit much... but after reading about it this is an absolutely fitting punishment.

 

[Kayhan]

I will never understand the pedestal college sports get put on in America.

There seems to be a huge problem with sexual assault committed by student athletes and subsequent cover-ups by institutions that before everything else should be concerned with the safety of the students.

 

[Ambient80]

Oh in that case fuck 'em. Never heard it use that way so i got confused. The more you know i guess.

Haha no problem

From Wikipedia, for those unfamiliar:

The most serious violation was the maintenance of a slush fund used for "under the table" payments to players from the mid-1970s through 1986. This culminated in the NCAA handing down the so-called "death penalty" by canceling SMU's entire 1987 schedule. SMU was allowed to return for an abbreviated 1988 season, but opted to sit that season out as well after school officials determined it would be impossible to field a viable team.

The severity of the penalty left the SMU football program in ruin. The Mustangs had only one winning season over the next 20 years and failed to make another bowl game until 2009. To date, it is one of the most severe penalties ever imposed on a Division I program, and the only time the NCAA has canceled a football-playing school's entire season at any level.

Again, this was because SMU tried to pay their players. Not even remotely approaching covering up rape and assault.

 

[Keri]

The "death penalty" seems appropriate here, but I still don't understand the circumstances involving the coach. He absolutely should not be the one tasked with dealing with sexual assault allegations against his players. Is that really how things worked at Baylor? Or did he know about the assaults and chose not to report them?

 

[Garlador]

America. Where unimportant sports games are more important than protecting human rights.

 

[The Maverick]

Kill the Baylor program, indefinitely. They need to be made an example of. They are getting off way too easy for this evil shit. I hate the general cult-ness and deification that comes with major college sports.

Sickening.

 

[giga]

Multi-year death penalty. Lifetime ban for Briles.

 

[entremet]

I will never understand the pedestal college sports get put on in America.

There seems to be a huge problem with sexual assault committed by student athletes and subsequent cover-ups by institutions that before everything else should be concerned with the safety of the students.

College and HS sports pedestals come from regionalism. The US is huge and not every place has pro sports team, so College and HS fill that void.

 

[VendettaRed07]

There seems to be a huge problem with sexual assault committed by student athletes and subsequent cover-ups by institutions that before everything else should be concerned with the safety of the students.

Because the NCAA often doesn't do anything about it.

They care more if a coach buys their players McDonald's before the game than if they are involved in a human trafficking ring

 

[Croatoan]

Kill the Baylor program, indefinitely. They need to be made an example of. They are getting off way too easy for this evil shit. I hate the general cult-ness and deification that comes with major college sports.

Sickening.

Getting off easy is an understatment. They might make it into the College Football Playoff this year. Nothing has been done to them by the NCAA. Baylor themselves fired their coach.

 

[serenewarfare]

They should definitely get the death penalty, but if Penn State didn't get it, I don't think anyone will.

Unless they pay players of course. Nothing more reprehensible than that.

 

[LQX]

How is this even possible? You could probably expect this sort of shit if there were tens and tens of thousands of players in the football program but there have only been a few hundred players even if you go back a few years, so close to 20 rapes is beyond alarming. There really needs to be some sort of college wide mandate in that you not recruit scum of the world no matter how great of an athlete they are.

 

[caliph95]

I will never understand the pedestal college sports get put on in America.

There seems to be a huge problem with sexual assault committed by student athletes and subsequent cover-ups by institutions that before everything else should be concerned with the safety of the students.

Could it be that in America college football is a huge business. Basing this on what i remember from John Oliver's video. I don't get why people care about college football so much.

 

[Croatoan]

They should definitely get the death penalty, but if Penn State didn't get it, I don't think anyone will.

Unless they pay players of course. Nothing more reprehensible than that.

If Ol' Miss gets the death penalty and not Baylor...


Maybe Texas and Oklahoma are running interference because losing another team in the dying big 12 would just kill it outright?

 

[rokkerkory]

Texas lol

Fuck these punks

 

[99Luffy]

Every time these assaults happen why does it seem like the law is never involved? Its always an internal or private investigation handling the cases?

 

[Barrage]

The thread title should be changed before this topic gets way out of hand.

 

[Croatoan]

Texas lol

Fuck these punks

What does Texas have to do with this?

 

[entremet]

Every time these assaults happen why does it seem like the law is never involved? Its always an internal or private investigation handling the cases?

Title IX grants schools the power to conduct sexual assault/rape investigations.

It was made with good intentions, but it is a total shitshow.

Academic administrators are too biased to be involved in these quasi legal proceeding. Moreover, the accused have no due process. On top of that, many academic adminstrators have no legal or criminal investigatory training to conduct these with due diligence.

It's bad for the accused and the accusers and it should be totally scrapped because they are not working--at all.

 

[Ponn]

But my foosball is important, just boys being boys, etc etc.