Oooh. Okay yeah, this is what should happen to the school.
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WSJ reports 17 rapes at Baylor University by 19 players including 4 gang rapes.
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Oooh. Okay yeah, this is what should happen to the school.
Croatoan
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What should it be changed to? I asked to have it changed to sexual assaults.
Players are idolized. Education ignored and exaggerated to enable sports above everything else. Their behavior excused and forgiven as long as they win. Narcissism, misogyny and homophobia are common and even applauded. And then you can add money and irrational local affinity to the already dangerous mix.
I think the victims don't come forward to the police right? Usually they don't report it at all or just to the school administration who don't inform the police until they do their own internal investigation.
What was the original intentions for such a thing.
Messofanego
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entremet
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On campus rape and sexual assault wasn't taken seriously by local law enforcement, so the internal investigations by Title IX was added to protect students.
Schools are legally obliged to investigate these claims by law. However, recent cases have shown that schools are too biased to conduct proper investigations and even alert law enforcement in a timely manner (see FSU).
Also schools don't want to advertise that sexual assault/rape is happening at their campuses. It will hurt their rankings and reputation.
These are poor incentives for treating these cases with due diligence.
From the accused, the accused are also not protected and are given no due process. I know we live in a witch-hunt culture that loves to make judgment without evidence, but due process is a Constitutional Right.
It's a total shitshow and an embarrassment. Sexual assaults and rapes have been increasing in college campuses and these Kangaroo Courts haven't done anything to abate the issue.
I think Colin Cowherd said it well (yes I know a lot here don't like him) when he said that a lot of these college towns, the team is the life source for a lot of their businesses. Without the team doing at least OK their business would die. This leads to doing basically anything they can to avoid the program coming under fire. That's what happened with Penn State and the rabid defenders they had. Joe Pa was a local diety and folks would defend him to the end. Small towns keep secrets WAY more and WAY easier than big cities. If the PSU or Baylor incident happened somewhere like UCLA it would hit the news immediately. Reporters there DGAF about covering up for a coach, whereas a sports writer for a local small town nerspaper has a vested interest in not exposing anything.
It's sad.
FF Seraphim
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Oh okay, thanks for the clarification because that really threw me off.
Anyway, on topic are can we actually going to get real disciplinary action with this case? Or will they somehow sweep it under the rug.
entremet
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My prediction is yes.
No idea about the allegations on the players. I can see them not getting criminal action based on previous college/HS cases.
demosthenes
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Should be death penalty, expect nothing.
Rape and sexual assault are huge problems in America because we treat the victims like shit. Sexual assault is a big problem in colleges and is no way limited to just corrupt football programs. The worst and least surprising part of this is how they covered it up.
At least these assholes have been exposed and hopefully they all go to jail for a long time.
SparkleMotion
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Why are schools willing to let so many atrocities go down if it means the damn football team wins?
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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Follow the money.
This is part of why people say capitalism is at the root of everything terrible right now in America.
WiiredShawn
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Because between these two statements:
"This college is a champion of human rights and human dignity"
and
"This college has a champion sports team"
Only one of those activates the primitive part of the human brain that compels people to throw money away.
You are 100% right about how they cover up shit for athletic programs but that doesn't explain all of the millions of other sexual assaults.
We have to do a much better job overall of protecting women and especially make it easier for them to come forward and report these crimes.
evil solrac v3.0
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The authorities needs to be involved. You got dangerous, dangerous people walking around campus.
Don't support the games.
Yeah, I don't want to. My friend got free tickets but I'm gonna see if we can bail and do something else.
ArkhamFantasy
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Same reason pharmaceutical companies will jack up the prices of life saving drugs. We need to stop thinking about universities as our friends and look at them for what they are, businesses.
People in the thread wanting to shut down the football division arent getting the point. You cant just punish one division of the business, its just a scapegoat. You need to punish the actual business itself, why does Baylor University get a pass? Forget the football program, jail the presidents/chancellors/board, bet you this shit wont happen again after that.
smokeandmirrors
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now this i like. still the death penalty for the program but in a very creative way.
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