If it was just the content I would agree with you, but the live PPV's are probably worth at least one extra out of those for people.
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WWE Network |OT| $9.99 PPVs, that's gonna put some butts in the seats
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Mr. Luchador
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Nah, they'd probably download the live PPVs too.
DM, justify the New Generation to me.
One week has Mantaur, Mable, Henry Godwinn, Man Mountain Rock.
The 100th episode has a long Tatanka vs Lex match, and then the interview segment with LT and Bam Bam via satellite. For starters, Vince and Corny are clearly in front of a green screen when they were live moments earlier, and now Vince is wearing different clothes and is orange. During the interview, Bam Bam starts coughing and they leave it in, not bothering to do more than one take.
Then right after that, Vince and Corny are back in front of the live crowd for a face Doink squash match.
One week has Mantaur, Mable, Henry Godwinn, Man Mountain Rock.
The 100th episode has a long Tatanka vs Lex match, and then the interview segment with LT and Bam Bam via satellite. For starters, Vince and Corny are clearly in front of a green screen when they were live moments earlier, and now Vince is wearing different clothes and is orange. During the interview, Bam Bam starts coughing and they leave it in, not bothering to do more than one take.
Then right after that, Vince and Corny are back in front of the live crowd for a face Doink squash match.
greyshark
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So I had my wallet stolen the day before my payment for the WWE network was due. I had called to cancel my CC and was getting a new one mailed to me, and the next day I get an email from WWE saying my account was suspended. No big deal, I wasn't planning on using it over the next few days anyway. Fast forward to the day I get my new CC in the mail - I go to reinstate my WWE account and it's been completely deleted. I call and they say I can re-sign up as if I was a new subscriber if I wanted, but my old account is totally gone.
Why would they be so efficient at deleting my account? I would think they would want to make sure I made good on the six month commitment, but one missed payment and they immediately cut the cord on me. Very strange.
Why would they be so efficient at deleting my account? I would think they would want to make sure I made good on the six month commitment, but one missed payment and they immediately cut the cord on me. Very strange.
DM, justify the New Generation to me.
One week has Mantaur, Mable, Henry Godwinn, Man Mountain Rock.
The 100th episode has a long Tatanka vs Lex match, and then the interview segment with LT and Bam Bam via satellite. For starters, Vince and Corny are clearly in front of a green screen when they were live moments earlier, and now Vince is wearing different clothes and is orange. During the interview, Bam Bam starts coughing and they leave it in, not bothering to do more than one take.
Then right after that, Vince and Corny are back in front of the live crowd for a face Doink squash match.
And all of that is more interesting than a standard episode of Raw today.
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Raw Replays
2002
Episode 475 - 06/30/2002
2002
Episode 475 - 06/30/2002
LEGIT SHOOK
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WWE One Night Stand 2007
An odd show that looks good on paper, but in practice is a mess with every match having a major botch, especially the ladder match, in which almost every big spot from both sides was blown. The end of the wave cap era Vince, and also the last PPV to feature Chris Benoit.
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WWE One Night Stand 2007
An odd show that looks good on paper, but in practice is a mess with every match having a major botch, especially the ladder match, in which almost every big spot from both sides was blown. The end of the wave cap era Vince, and also the last PPV to feature Chris Benoit.
There are two Nasty Eras. You can't escape them.
You have two guys who can't wrestler and are in terrible shape. It makes sense to book them in short brawls. Instead, they went about a year and a half of having the longest or second longest match on every PPV/Clash they were on.
You have two guys who can't wrestler and are in terrible shape. It makes sense to book them in short brawls. Instead, they went about a year and a half of having the longest or second longest match on every PPV/Clash they were on.
I find it weird that 2007 still had that story of dirty, smoky look to tge arenas. I associate that look more with 2001 - 2004 or so. I wasn't watching in 2007 so it kind of blows my mind that CM Punk and Benoit were in the company at the same time. WWECW just seems like it was such a weird mix of guys.
Avon Barksdale
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I was at the RAW the night after this PPV.
Was it as weird and not good as the PPV?
Hey I never really watched too much WCW back in the day, I was always more of a WWF kid. I'd like to know what the deal is with Sting though. Everyone always talk about hows he this icon, but I never really got to understand what his deal is, or what he has done. If someone could point me in the right direction, I would be super appreciative. I'd love to see the beginnings of his crow character and his rise to the top during the ppvs in chronological order.
See I never looked it up before and assumed their run in WCW coincided with Hogan coming back, nope. They are a cancer on the division nearly a year before he shows up.
The crow stuff didn't start until towards the end of 1996 and all the best Crow Sting moments were on Nitro, which isn't up on the Network yet. But as Surfer Sting, his best work was in 1991-1994, with great stuff with Vader and Cactus Jack.
His rise to the top starts in 1987. He starts at the bottom of the cards but is super over right away before having a star making match with Ric Flair and then wins the title at the Great American Bash 1990 and was a top guy until Hogan came in.
Mr. Enigma
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I do believe this is the episode where Brock Lesnar defeated Ric Flair that caused Flair to lose his half of the company ownership. Bischoff showed up next week.
Man I really wish the network had a superstars page. It's a shame I gotta go to a message board and ask people for advice. I think it would be real cool if I could just go to a wrestler's page, read a comprehensive biography on their career, and see a list of their greatest promos and matches and etc. I really appreciate the wide variety of content that the network offers, I really do feel like one of the few that sees the value in the 9.99 a month, but I think they can really refine the whole user experience. The network should really make it easier for people to discover new content because at the surface it really seems daunting and impenetrable for a casual viewer like me.
Btw from what I understand some of those early WCW ppvs were kinda bad, would I still be safe just watching Sting matches? Know of any duds I should just avoid?
Avon Barksdale
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It was basically a run-of-the-mill RAW.
Matches to watch:
Sting vs Ric Flair Clash of The Champions 1
Sting/Dusty Rhodes vs Arn Anderson/Tully Blanchard COTC 2
Sting/Nikita Koloff vs Arn Anderson/Tully Blanchard Great American Bash 1988
Sting vs Barry Windham COTC 3
Sting vs Great Muta GAB 1989
Sting/Ric Flair vs Dick Slater/Great Muta COTC 8
Sting/Ric Flair vs Terry Funk/Great Muta Halloween Havoc 1989
Sting vs Ric Flair, Lex Luger, Great Muta all at Starrcade 1989
Sting vs Ric Flair GAB 1990
Sting vs Sid HH 1990 (maybe)
Sting/Steiners/Brian Pillman vs Four Horsemen War Games Wrestle War 1991
Sting/Lex Luger vs Steiners Superbrawl 1 1991
Sting vs Nikita Koloff COTC 15
Sting/Ricky Steamboat vs Rick Rude/Steve Austin COTC 18
Sting's Squadron vs Four Horsemen War Games Wrestle War 1992
Sting vs Cactus Jack Beach Blast 1992
Sting vs Vader GAB 1992
Sting vs Rick Rude COTC 21
Sting vs Vader Starrcade 1992
Sting vs Vader Superbrawl III 1993
Sting/Dustin Rhodes/British Bulldog vs Vader/Sid/Rick Rude COTC 23
Sting/Bulldog vs Vader/Sid Beach Blast 1993
Sting/Ric Flair vs Vader/Rick Rude COTC 26
Sting vs Rick Rude Spring Stampede 1994
Sting vs Vader Slamboree 1994
Sting vs Ric Flair COTC 27
Sting vs Vader vs Guardian Angel Triangle Elimination Match Fall Brawl 1994
After that it is all up in the air as Sting was downgraded with Hogan and Savage taking up the top spots, so he was shunted down and got stuck working with Meng or tagging with Hogan/Savage. After the Crow gimmick started, all of his best matches were on Nitro.
HOLY CRAP!!!! Thanks stro! You're the man!
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The Best of Surfer Sting 5-DVD set, pictured above.
Today's minor update:
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DM, justify the New Generation to me.
One week has Mantaur, Mable, Henry Godwinn, Man Mountain Rock.
The 100th episode has a long Tatanka vs Lex match, and then the interview segment with LT and Bam Bam via satellite. For starters, Vince and Corny are clearly in front of a green screen when they were live moments earlier, and now Vince is wearing different clothes and is orange. During the interview, Bam Bam starts coughing and they leave it in, not bothering to do more than one take.
Then right after that, Vince and Corny are back in front of the live crowd for a face Doink squash match.
They did all that in an hour instead of stroking it into three hours of yawns.
LEGIT SHOOK
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WWE Vengeance 2003
Dope show. Smackdown was beating the dog shit out of Raw for the first 2 years of the brand split. This was the debut solo Smackdown PPV and they made it count. Eddie/Benoit and WGTT vs Kidman/Rey were excellent, Bork/Angle/Show was a super fun triple threat, Billy Gunn/Jamie Noble was surprisingly fun, Steph/Sable was better than it had any right to be, Vince/Gowen was ultimate evil Vince. Taker/Cena was the most boring match of the show. In ring wise, Cena DID NOT have it in 2003. People bitch about Roman Reigns now, but Cena was definitely less entertaining in the ring at the same point in their careers.
Presents
WWE Vengeance 2003
Dope show. Smackdown was beating the dog shit out of Raw for the first 2 years of the brand split. This was the debut solo Smackdown PPV and they made it count. Eddie/Benoit and WGTT vs Kidman/Rey were excellent, Bork/Angle/Show was a super fun triple threat, Billy Gunn/Jamie Noble was surprisingly fun, Steph/Sable was better than it had any right to be, Vince/Gowen was ultimate evil Vince. Taker/Cena was the most boring match of the show. In ring wise, Cena DID NOT have it in 2003. People bitch about Roman Reigns now, but Cena was definitely less entertaining in the ring at the same point in their careers.
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Definitely going to be watching Vengeance. Knowing that's the first big show that Smackdown took personally to make as badass as possible makes me really want to sit down and enjoy it.
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CHANGED - Episode 275 - 07/16/2014
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Legends Of Wrestling
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The Soul of Wrestling - 02/01/2009
In Ring
Wwe Superstars
2014
CHANGED - Episode 275 - 07/16/2014
Avon Barksdale
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I can't stop and notice how much bacne Eddie had on him. Sheesh.
It was really, really bad. Some of the worst I've seen in the big leagues. Sid would often have it pretty bad, but he would be so tan that they were noticeable, but weren't so gross looking. Eddie was pale and that stuff was nasty. Jan the make up lady should have done some touch up before he went out there.
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Episode 14 - 01/02/1988
Episode 37 - 02/05/1988
Episode 15 - 03/12/1988
Episode 16 - 04/30/1988
Episode 17 - 10/29/1988
Episode 18 - 11/26/1988
1989
Episode 19 - 01/07/1989
Episode 38 - 02/03/1989
Episode 20 - 03/11/1989
Episode 21 - 05/27/1989
Episode 22 - 07/29/1989
Episode 23 - 10/14/1989
Episode 24 - 11/25/1989
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Cash Rules Everything Around Me - 06/20/2014
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Episode 14 - 01/02/1988
Episode 37 - 02/05/1988
Episode 15 - 03/12/1988
Episode 16 - 04/30/1988
Episode 17 - 10/29/1988
Episode 18 - 11/26/1988
1989
Episode 19 - 01/07/1989
Episode 38 - 02/03/1989
Episode 20 - 03/11/1989
Episode 21 - 05/27/1989
Episode 22 - 07/29/1989
Episode 23 - 10/14/1989
Episode 24 - 11/25/1989
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Cash Rules Everything Around Me - 06/20/2014
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CHANGED - WWE Battleground 2014 Kickoff - 07/19/2014
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Episode 111 - 05/15/1995
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The Ultimate Underdog - 07/15/2014
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Riveting Rivalries - 07/15/2014
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Episode 113 - 05/28/1995
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Episode 85 - 04/05/2001
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CHANGED - WWE Battleground 2014 Kickoff - 07/19/2014
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Episode 95 - 07/22/2014
Raw Replays
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Episode 111 - 05/15/1995
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The Ultimate Underdog - 07/15/2014
Wwe Countdown
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Riveting Rivalries - 07/15/2014
In Ring
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Episode 113 - 05/28/1995
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Episode 85 - 04/05/2001
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It's moving along pretty quick. We're gonna be up in the Attitude Era before you know it.
Host Samurai
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Im in a 90's mood today
BFIB
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I kind of fell out of WWF in '95 through '96. I started watching more WCW and we had ECW on late night. Excited to make my way through it all.
I will warn you now, temper your excitement for 1995 WWF right now.
Im in a 90's mood today
Hogan= the lost hardy boy.
Quiet.
Host Samurai
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Diesel era was great.
Avon Barksdale
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The following shows have been added to the WWE Network today:
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Southern Wrestling - 12/01/2009
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1995
Episode 115 - 06/12/1995
Episode 116 - 06/19/1995
Episode 117 - 06/26/1995
Episode 118 - 07/03/1995
2002
Episode 461 - 03/25/2002
Vault
Legends Of Wrestling
2009
Southern Wrestling - 12/01/2009
In Ring
Raw Replays
1995
Episode 115 - 06/12/1995
Episode 116 - 06/19/1995
Episode 117 - 06/26/1995
Episode 118 - 07/03/1995
2002
Episode 461 - 03/25/2002
Mr. Enigma
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The March 25, 2002 Raw is the WWF Draft episode where Flair and McMahon draft 10 people each to Raw and Smackdown.
It was hilarious because Smackdown was totally loaded and Raw was shit.
Raw/Flair
1. The Undertaker
2. The nWo (yes, somehow the whole group counted as one pick)
3. Kane
4. Rob Van Dam
5. Booker T.
6. The Big Show
7. Bubba Ray Dudley
8. Brock Lesnar
9. William Regal
10. Lita (yes, Flair used one of his picks on a Diva)
Smackdown/McMahon
1. The Rock
2. Kurt Angle
3. Chris Benoit
4. Hulk Hogan
5. Billy & Chuck (again, somehow this counted as one pick, yet Flair couldn't pick the Dudleys together)
6. Edge
7. Rikishi
8. D-Von Dudley
9. Mark Henry
10. Maven (it must have been a battle of "how stupid can our 10th pick be")
Also, Triple H defends the WWF Title in a Triple Threat Match against Chris Jericho and Stephanie McMahon. Yep. Triple H and Jericho were not eligible to be drafted because of the title match. Triple H won, so he kept the ability to go on both shows while Jericho ended up on Smackdown. Stephanie ended up as the GM of Smackdown in July 2002 once McMahon got control of both shows.
It was hilarious because Smackdown was totally loaded and Raw was shit.
Raw/Flair
1. The Undertaker
2. The nWo (yes, somehow the whole group counted as one pick)
3. Kane
4. Rob Van Dam
5. Booker T.
6. The Big Show
7. Bubba Ray Dudley
8. Brock Lesnar
9. William Regal
10. Lita (yes, Flair used one of his picks on a Diva)
Smackdown/McMahon
1. The Rock
2. Kurt Angle
3. Chris Benoit
4. Hulk Hogan
5. Billy & Chuck (again, somehow this counted as one pick, yet Flair couldn't pick the Dudleys together)
6. Edge
7. Rikishi
8. D-Von Dudley
9. Mark Henry
10. Maven (it must have been a battle of "how stupid can our 10th pick be")
Also, Triple H defends the WWF Title in a Triple Threat Match against Chris Jericho and Stephanie McMahon. Yep. Triple H and Jericho were not eligible to be drafted because of the title match. Triple H won, so he kept the ability to go on both shows while Jericho ended up on Smackdown. Stephanie ended up as the GM of Smackdown in July 2002 once McMahon got control of both shows.
No. There were plans to run WCW as its own brand, maybe taking over Raw or maybe getting a Saturday night show, until Buff and Booker killed all chances of that. Zero chance of that happening after the brand split. The brand split was done a year later because all plans for a WCW brand were scrapped after that one match. And then the Invasion happened. If WCW was going to take over Raw, it wasn't because Smackdown was doing so well, as the concept of which show was doing better wasn't even a thing at that point.
Smackdown ended up getting most of the best talent from WCW, the best mid card guys, the best of the OVW guys, plus Kurt/Brock/Taker. Beat the piss out of what Raw had and was doing.
Avon Barksdale
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I may have to watch this episode.
Mr. Enigma
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-- Mr. Perfect vs. Tazz
-- Booker T. & Christian vs. Edge & Diamond Dallas Page
-- Ivory vs. Trish Stratus
-- The nWo (Scott Hall, Kevin Nash, & X-Pac) vs. Hulk Hogan & The Rock in a Handicap Match
-- Billy Gunn vs. Jeff Hardy
-- Rikishi vs. William Regal (c) for the WWF European Title
-- Kurt Angle vs. Rob Van Dam (c) for the WWF Intercontinental Title
-- Chris Jericho vs. Stephanie McMahon vs. Triple H (c) in a Triple Threat Match for the WWF Title (if Stephanie doesn't win the WWF Title, she is banned from the company FOREVER! [until she gets named Smackdown GM less than four months later])
Mr. Enigma
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Supposedly, the angle where Linda busted Vince getting fresh with Torrie Wilson was supposed to lead to Linda giving Shane and WCW the Raw timeslot and letting it be Nitro for some undetermined amount of time. The original plan was for Raw to become Nitro and for Smackdown to become the main WWF show. Velocity would become the WCW b-show (possibly the new WCW Saturday Night) and Heat would become the WWF b-show. But yeah, the Buff/Booker trainwreck ended all that.
Yeah. It was something like that, but had nothing to do with Smackdown doing so well at the time since the split hadn't happened yet.
Shellshock929
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Watching The very first WWE Draft from RAW in March 25, 2002. Man, it's great to get to watch this one again. Can't wait until we get to 1996/97 RAW episodes.