WWE NXT Take Over : Rival |OT| Zayn vs Owens and Balor vs Neville on the same show

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TimeEffect said:
Ew. Never.

He just looks goofy.

Now Harper on the other hand. Harper is legitimately creepy, has an incredible presence, and is actually great to watch. And he cuts great promos.

Corbin is the Roman Reigns of NXT, but a lot worse.
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I did say a lot of work.....but Harper would be better for a Mankind type gimmick.
 
Once got to see Crowe use a Wawa bag filled with actual shit as a weapon, so I'm kinda excited to see him debut here

Worried the 4-way women's match ends up a trainwreck
 
Itami vs Breeze is on the card

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I see them putting Balor over and putting the belt on him by the next Take Over. There's no real reason for Zayn to not be on the main roster.
 
The Silver said:
I don't think I can ever recall seeing a women's Fatal 4 Way before.

Also I love Owens's shirts, the KO and Fight Me are great.
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Mr. Sandman said:
You haven't in WWE.

It's a staple in Ring of Honor and in independent women's wrestling though, and I imagine Sara Del Rey is behind getting it on the show.
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I don't remember a 4 way women's match.
However we had a 6 women's match in Survivor Series 2001 (when the invasion was gone).
 
- I like Bull. He has bad ass music and on the whole just looks like a tough dude. He's being horribly managed though currently after what was a great build.

- I like Corbin. Whatever 'it' is, he has it in abundance. Horrible music though haha. Interested to see him in a match over 2 minutes though, and a brawl may suit him if he just goes all out. Here's hoping.

- Itami hasn't adapted well, but seems to be getting there. It's hard for him though as he's used to working mega stiff, and all his moves are banned. Still, he should do okay. Will never be like Bryan/Punk though.

- Balor has adapted wonderfully and should do the business.

- Nice to see Breeze get some exposure, should set it alight with Balor as they have good chemistry.

- Zayn/Owens should be off the page mentally good. Obviously building to another match with a stipulation (Street fight loser leaves NXT and Zayn goes main roster)

Overall - Hype 100/10
 
Shit this came around quick. Really looking forward to it, great card and the main event should be dynamite.

Can't wait for these 2 to get on the main roster and own the main event with a long running feud. They just ooze credibility.
 
I hope KO wins and Zayn gets moved up. Hard to believe he's been in NXT for almost TWO YEARS. I think NXT is a great idea, but they keep talent in there way too long. Zayn is 30. Balor and Itami are 33. Are they going to be 35 before they appear on Raw? People like Rock, HHH, Cena, etc. won the championship in the mid to late 20s, and that's after several years of TV appearances. Many others like Austin, Punk, Bryan, Del Rio, Hardy, Edge, etc. won it in their early 30s after years of being stuck in the midcard. I'm trying to think of the oldest person to win a world title for the first time. I think Batista won it when he was 35 or 36.

Again, NXT is a great way for wrestlers to work on their gimmicks and get experience, but I feel like not everyone needs to go through the system. Or at least not for years at a time.
 
Maaaaaardy said:
- I like Bull. He has bad ass music and on the whole just looks like a tough dude. He's being horribly managed though currently after what was a great build.

- I like Corbin. Whatever 'it' is, he has it in abundance. Horrible music though haha. Interested to see him in a match over 2 minutes though, and a brawl may suit him if he just goes all out. Here's hoping.

- Itami hasn't adapted well, but seems to be getting there. It's hard for him though as he's used to working mega stiff, and all his moves are banned. Still, he should do okay. Will never be like Bryan/Punk though.

- Balor has adapted wonderfully and should do the business.

- Nice to see Breeze get some exposure, should set it alight with Balor as they have good chemistry.

- Zayn/Owens should be off the page mentally good. Obviously building to another match with a stipulation (Street fight loser leaves NXT and Zayn goes main roster)

Overall - Hype 100/10
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What's banned? Hoping we get a GTS tonight. Will set the crowd on fire. Also, who's he working with tonight?
 
iMax said:
What's banned? Hoping we get a GTS tonight. Will set the crowd on fire. Also, who's he working with tonight?
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The intensity of his kicks is lower, also a lot of his suplexes are quite hard on the neck, they're all gone. He's currently just struggling to show anything but kicks in matches over 10 minutes, but he'll get there. Too good not to. Also he's facing Breeze, sorry I put Balor in my post :)
 
Forkball said:
I hope KO wins and Zayn gets moved up. Hard to believe he's been in NXT for almost TWO YEARS. I think NXT is a great idea, but they keep talent in there way too long. Zayn is 30. Balor and Itami are 33. Are they going to be 35 before they appear on Raw? People like Rock, HHH, Cena, etc. won the championship in the mid to late 20s, and that's after several years of TV appearances. Many others like Austin, Punk, Bryan, Del Rio, Hardy, Edge, etc. won it in their early 30s after years of being stuck in the midcard. I'm trying to think of the oldest person to win a world title for the first time. I think Batista won it when he was 35 or 36.

Again, NXT is a great way for wrestlers to work on their gimmicks and get experience, but I feel like not everyone needs to go through the system. Or at least not for years at a time.
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I'm starting to feel like the likes of Zayn/Neville haven't gone up because HHH doesn't want to give them up, as his top NXT stars, and so doesn't encourage Vince to bring them up. Zayn is certainly the guy NXT is built around.
 
Why is it the WWE can't figure out how to get Itami over when they can fire up the Network for only $9.99 a month and watch people lose their damn minds during Tajiri matches? That guy was super over and never had to speak English to do it.

As to the card, this is in my mind the best top to bottom card since they started running these Clash style shows. Main event will deliver in every way, Valor/Neville will potentially steal the show, Dubstep Express vs Lucia Dragons will be fun and I hope this match showcases Kalisto more, Breeze/Itami could be fun and the women's match is another possible show stealer. Looking forward to this and Lucha Underground tonight.
 
Hideo's pretty solidly over in NXT, though. Tajiri had also been working in ECW for a long while, and they weren't as tightly controlled/regulated as they are in WWE now. Tajiri was also always a midcarder, while they're trying to build a guy nearer to the top of the card in Itami.
 
As someone who has never seen NXT and is interested in seeing it, what should I look forward to and what good wrestlers are on there. I've only seen one NXT match and that was a while back on RAW with Adrian Neville vs someone else. It caught my interest but I never checked it out. I've been hearing some good stuff about it so yeah.
 
Lum1n3s said:
As someone who has never seen NXT and is interested in seeing it, what should I look forward to and what good wrestlers are on there. I've only seen one NXT match and that was a while back on RAW with Adrian Neville vs someone else. It caught my interest but I never checked it out. I've been hearing some good stuff about it so yeah.
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Nearly every match on the card tonight has the potential to be match of the night, save for maybe Baron Corbin vs Bull Dempsey.
 
Lum1n3s said:
As someone who has never seen NXT and is interested in seeing it, what should I look forward to and what good wrestlers are on there. I've only seen one NXT match and that was a while back on RAW with Adrian Neville vs someone else. It caught my interest but I never checked it out. I've been hearing some good stuff about it so yeah.
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This is gonna be THE ONE
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I don't care much for Zayn or Owens but a lot of dorks love the shit out of them, you probably will too. Not saying you're a dork, just saying everyone else is and a hundred people can't be wrong.

Watch closely for Tyler Breeze vs Itami. Should be a gorgeous match.
 
jf DOOM said:
I see them putting Balor over and putting the belt on him by the next Take Over. There's no real reason for Zayn to not be on the main roster.
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I hope none of the NXT roster ever make it to the main roster.

NXT is so much better than the "main" product that it's sad.
 
Anth0ny said:
I hope none of the NXT roster ever make it to the main roster.

NXT is so much better than the "main" product that it's sad.
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That's why I want HHH to work on expanding this so it's not just 'developmental', who looks forward to the characters they make here being mishandled on the main roster, becoming a piss break 'diva' or loosing to Cena.
 
jf DOOM said:
I see them putting Balor over and putting the belt on him by the next Take Over. There's no real reason for Zayn to not be on the main roster.
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I'm probably in the minority on this but I think Balor is the best guy to go on the main roster
 
Really excited for this. I am thinking KO goes over because:

  • They seem to be building him up and so I don't think they will have him lose his first major match
  • SZ having a relatively short title reign would be in line with his underdog persona
  • The 2 people in the #1 contender's match are faces
 
Anth0ny said:
I hope none of the NXT roster ever make it to the main roster.

NXT is so much better than the "main" product that it's sad.
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Selfeshly, I hope you are right, because quitting Raw/WWE has saved my wrestling fandom. SO MUCH good stuff like Lucha Underground (which is great even though I only get it in Spanish), Ring of Honor and New Japan is easily available and booked hundreds of times better than Raw. NXT has super simple booking and, naturally, is the best product produced by WWE
 
radcliff said:
Really excited for this. I am thinking KO goes over because:

  • They seem to be building him up and so I don't think they will have him lose his first major match
  • SZ having a relatively short title reign would be in line with his underdog persona
  • The 2 people in the #1 contender's match are faces
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I think Zayn might go over only because I have a feeling the NXT title might get defended at WrestleMania. And if they do that, they're going to want the two biggest stars on the show there (which would probably be Zayn and Balor)
 
Sid said:
I'm probably in the minority on this but I think Balor is the best guy to go on the main roster
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Balor will be huge if they edit down his entrance some. The warpaint, and idea of the entrance are top notch, but its current execution needs work/is too long.
 
Rockandrollclown said:
Balor will be huge if they edit down his entrance some. The warpaint, and idea of the entrance are top notch, but its current execution needs work/is too long.
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His entrance is long but it's at least entertaining. I'd rather have a long Balor entrance than a long Randy Orton entrance
 
With the history it has carrying over, if they give it breathing room on the main roster, I feel like Zayn vs Owens could be the next big rivalry for WWE. Everyone thought it could be Bryan vs Punk, or either of those guys vs Cena, but Zayn and Owens have the chemistry to take it to the next level.
 
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