WWE's The Miz has fiery verbal clash w/ retired wrestler Daniel Bryan: real or fake?

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I enjoyed Smack down a lot last night. Here's why.

1) Heath Slater got pop
2) the Dolphins ziggler/ aj styles fights looked really good
3) while arguably less overall talent on the roster.... It seemed as if the acting and matches were better.
4) miz (after smack down) cut the best promo all year.
5) The whole lesnar dynamic


Miz is not the best wrestler.... But old school wrestling was for the most part boring as well.


Also... Finn is just as much to blame for his shoulder as Rollins. You hit the barricade flush and flat. He tried to brace himself. That is his fault...
 
Truthfully, the content of the promo was fairly average. The only reason people are saying it was so great is because he delivered with intensity while most guys sound like they're reading from a script. I don't feel the actual promo is equal to the reaction it's getting.
 
SparkleMotion said:
Truthfully, the content of the promo was fairly average. The only reason people are saying it was so great is because he delivered with intensity while most guys sound like they're reading from a script. I don't feel the actual promo is equal to the reaction it's getting.
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It's not. And most guys are reading a script. And most guys aren't The Miz. He's great and this segment should hardly be a revelation for anyone that's been paying attention. He's always had good chemistry with Daniel Bryan. If anything, it's the one tried and true rivalry he had in the WWE that worked.
 
The Miz can cut a good promo when he tries, but what's the point of a fiery promo that gets you hyped for a match if he then goes and leaves a big turd in the ring? The Miz should be a manager and not a wrestler.
 
The Miz could probably be a good wrestler if he tried. He doesn't try. A Pay Per View Miz match is exactly the same as a first hour of SmackDown Miz match. Play it safe, do the same moves, keep the same low to mid intensity, and just get through it. The Miz phones it in every single time, doing the bare minimum of what can be called a "match".
 
MrPressStart said:
Also... Finn is just as much to blame for his shoulder as Rollins. You hit the barricade flush and flat. He tried to brace himself. That is his fault...
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Dude, the buckle bomb is one of those spots where you legit have no idea how far you are from anything behind you and you're 100% relying on the guy throwing you to throw you far enough to make safe impact. If you get thrown an expected distance and don't make it because of a bad throw you're going to try to brace yourself for it

It's not finns fault at all
 
The Miz is the best mic guy they have on smackdown by a landslide. Beautiful promo. Shit got intense. The best heel WWE has had in a minute.

His wrestling is a bit boring but eh ill take it over dean shitbrose. Watch that guy make an AJ match look bland too at backlash somehow.
 
SparkleMotion said:
What the hell are you talking about?
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Look... I have been watching wrestling since Flair broke his back in a plane crash... I like old school wrestling but if guys wrestled that way today most would be booed out of the ring. Look no further than Dean Malenko. Great old school grappler and they would chant boring during his match. Wrestling has evolved into flips, and crazy gimmicks.... Just the way it is. Miz doesn't rely on crazy moves.
 
Nekofrog said:
Dude, the buckle bomb is one of those spots where you legit have no idea how far you are from anything behind you and you're 100% relying on the guy throwing you to throw you far enough to make safe impact. If you get thrown an expected distance and don't make it because of a bad throw you're going to try to brace yourself for it

It's not finns fault at all
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It's about trust. So it is Finns fault. He should have trusted Rollins. Also, truth is the move is risky if you don't trust, and even more risky outside the ring.
 
MrPressStart said:
It's about trust. So it is Finns fault. He should have trusted Rollins. Also, truth is the move is risky if you don't trust, and even more risky outside the ring.
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Actually he shouldn't have trusted Rollins. That was the mistake. He should have seen how Rollins injured Sting with the dumb move. As Bret pointed out months ago.
 
MrPressStart said:
Look... I have been watching wrestling since Flair broke his back in a plane crash... I like old school wrestling but if guys wrestled that way today most would be booed out of the ring. Look no further than Dean Malenko. Great old school grappler and they would chant boring during his match. Wrestling has evolved into flips, and crazy gimmicks.... Just the way it is. Miz doesn't rely on crazy moves.
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You don't need crazy moves to be an entertaining wrestler. You need to not do what The Miz does. You can get by with having no psychology in your match if you wow with moves. You can also tell a great story using limited stuff. What The Miz does is tell no story, while also doing nothing.
 
SparkleMotion said:
You don't need crazy moves to be an entertaining wrestler. You need to not do what The Miz does. You can get by with having no psychology in your match if you wow with moves. You can also tell a great story using limited stuff. What The Miz does is tell no story, while also doing nothing.
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You have to have charisma. Hulk Hogan had zero moves and lasted 40 years.
 
Jerm411 said:
Great promo but what exactly is the payoff...there isn't one....
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Daniel Bryan vs Miz at WM.

(Honestly if Bryan held back from doing anything dumb like headbutts and dives to the outside, the Miz is a safe worker and would take care of him)
 
B1gg_Randall said:
Bruh!!! lmao
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I think I remember a shareholder asked at one point if he was still CEO of the company after that angle when he wasnt on the earnings call which was a week or two after. News sites running stories talking about if it was legal or not and if WWE could be used for faking a death etc...


Fun times. I really do wish that storyline got to have its big dumb conclusion.
 
ODDI said:
All this promo talk has me looking back on some classics 00's Rock was magical.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYxacPGsCbQ
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I was at the Raw at the San Jose Arena where Triple H tore his hamstring in the main event. When The Rock's theme started for him to come out and do his promo, the whole arena exploded with cheering so loud you couldn't hear the music anymore. When people calmed down enough for him to speak, he simply said, "FINALLY!" and the whole place exploded again.

To this day it is the loudest thing I have ever heard in any stadium or arena, and I have been a lot of concerts and sporting events. The Rock at the height of his popularity was just an unreal phenomenon.
 
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Nailed it, First post.
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Absolutely a work, he wouldn't have been going "my GM". I think he was given the go ahead to say whatever he wanted for the storyline, to say some "terrible" stuff to make Bryan leave.


Edit: Camera's still cutting to Renee when she starts speaking and cutting to Miz when he asks, absolutely a work.
 
Guys please, no fuckin shit it's a work. It's wrestling. Boggles my mind how trolls and assholes can taunt wrestling fans by calling it "fake" yet the marks pour out of the woodwork anytime something marginally shooty happens.

We're 4 episodes of Talking Smack in now and it has already been abundantly clear that the entire premise the show is operating on is that they are taking a laid back and shooty style and applying it to non-scripted (tho still pre-planned, and guided) interviews with the wrestlers in character.
 
LiQuid! said:
Guys please, no fuckin shit it's a work. It's wrestling. Boggles my mind how trolls and assholes can taunt wrestling fans by calling it "fake" yet the marks pour out of the woodwork anytime something marginally shooty happens.

We're 4 episodes of Talking Smack in now and it has already been abundantly clear that the entire premise the show is operating on is that they are taking a laid back and shooty style and applying it to non-scripted (tho still pre-planned, and guided) interviews with the wrestlers in character.
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Is this a shoot?
 
I'd say its a work with some shoot elements mixed in. I highly doubt Miz would have the balls say that stuff on tv if he didn't run it by Bryan first.
 
Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku! said:
He was not the best wrestler on the planet. He might have had the best matches because he got to go up against some of the best wrestlers of all time in their primes every month but he wasn't the best wrestler on the planet.

2000 Misawa laughs at 2000 HHH.
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Again, HHH went up against 2000 Taka and made the crowd think Taka had a serious shot of being world champ.

2000 Taka was beyond a jobber.

And regardless of who he went up against, his 2000 was full of great matches. Proving Bret wrong. And dude's match with Bryan at WM 30 was choice too, he could've half assed that to make Bryan look bad but did everything he could to make Bryan look like the man.

Also, Bryan's first great WWE match was with Miz.
 
The Miz is really good a promos and a great heel. WWE should give him another push for the World/Universal championship. Currently, it's quite boring; being all about the 3 guys from The Shield.
 
UberTag said:
Is that promo a work or a shoot? I need to know whether Titus is really just that bad at cutting promos or if he was intentionally flubbing lines on purpose to embarrass himself as a rib.
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Stop giving the Wrestlers lines to spout verbatim then. Tell them to hit certain points and see what they can do with it.
 
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