DrunkShogun
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Munn was just another evidence that fox have no idea when they're casting for their characters. Other than the xaviers, magnetos and wolverine, all the casting decisions have been poor.
X-Men Apocalypse Review Thread
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Munn was just another evidence that fox have no idea when they're casting for their characters. Other than the xaviers, magnetos and wolverine, all the casting decisions have been poor.
It's clearly the third one.
Bobby Roberts
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Fox didn't cast her, Singer did. And she looks very much the part. Problem is there's no real part to play. Kinberg didn't really write her one. That's not Munn's fault.
Anyway, I mentioned sitting next to the hosts of Jay & Miles X-Plain the X-Men, which I used to produce. Jay's review is up now, and after reading through it, I'm signing off on like, 95% of what's in there. I swear we didn't talk after the screening, or share notes, or anything like that. But my review is going to end up reading/feeling a lot like this one.
The Heartily Enjoyable Trainwreck of X-Men: Apocalypse
George Oscar Bluth II
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I agree with him that a reboot is absolutely what this franchise needs. Too late for that now, though.
Sucks that Munn got railed for trying to do her own stunts when that seems like the only thing she could do in the role, unless all she wanted to do was look the part and have a stunt double and CG do the rest.
Fuck she's at least trying more than Jlaw, but I wouldn't blame anyone for phoning it in in this franchise.
Fuck she's at least trying more than Jlaw, but I wouldn't blame anyone for phoning it in in this franchise.
Yeah, she was great in it.
roflwaffles
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One of the comments really displays what I think alot of people are missing from their experience in the X-Men movies -
This is why I've always felt X-Men would be much better served as a serialized TV series.
Yeah, that was really great
catashtrophe
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Singer X-Men movies are seriously hated by the majority of comic book movie gaf.
Apocalypse scores low and everyone hates on singer, costumes, characters, not being true to the comics etc and want to see X-Men back at Marvel.
When the series scores great like DoFP, the same people come in and still say the above.
Singer X-Men movies can't win no matter what it scores.
Also most of the people on here saying it scored low so not not watching in the cinema now and instead will watch on DVD/Netflix etc wouldn't have watched the movie in the cinema if it scored great anyway
There tends to be a reason, hint
it'd because almost every movie in the series is not good
roflwaffles
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Except they have more hits than misses.
freenudemacusers
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What's up with that clear divide? (I for the record believe they are good films.
MisterHero
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Days of Future Past had magic flying robots in and out of settings grounded in reality.
I'll keep watching Singer's X-movies, damn it
I'll keep watching Singer's X-movies, damn it
ANBUcaptainACID
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This thread is punching me out the game.
All of a sudden DoFP, First Class, and X2 are bad?
I can't!
Please stop.
All of a sudden DoFP, First Class, and X2 are bad?
I can't!
Please stop.
In 16 years there have been two hits, First Class and kinda sorta X2. X1 is not good, X3 is bad, Origins is terrible, The Wolverine is good until the fucking end, DOFP is boring. Not really a good franchise
Discotheque
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Dofp the best comic movie since TDK. I'd put civil war after it and a couple others but as a whole nothing has been as thrilling since dark knight imo.
freenudemacusers
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It's gonna be weird when this happens to the MCU.Same thing happened with the Spider-Man trilogy
Spider-Man 1, it's aightSame thing happened with the Spider-Man trilogy
Spider-Man 2, also aight
Spider-Man 3, yet again aight to meh
ANBUcaptainACID
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Are you high? X1 isnt great, but its not bad. THERE IS A MIDDLE GROUND. Kinda sorta X2? What? DoFP is phenomenal.
Yes nigga I'm high. High off the fact them movies ain't good. X2 is kinda sorta good. Like I said kinda sorta. Middle ground
Speaking for myself, it's because I grew up reading X-Men comics, and I'd like to see a movie that does the franchise justice one of these days.
Singer is never going to be able to do that. He does his own thing, and if you like that, cool. But it ain't the X-Men. Not really.
freenudemacusers
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At least you acknowledge your faculties are impaired.
Unspeakable Evil
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The last two years of comicbook movies has been interesting.
ANBUcaptainACID
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Last year if you would have told me....
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It's funny how the best X-Men movie is Deadpool, and is the highest grossing even with being faithful to the source material. Unlike whatever the hell Singer puts out.
I really enjoyed DOFP but I really want the X-Men to go Deadpool's direction (again not the R rating but more being faithful to the material).
I really enjoyed DOFP but I really want the X-Men to go Deadpool's direction (again not the R rating but more being faithful to the material).
It's funny how the best X-Men movie is Deadpool, and is the highest grossing even with being faithful to the source material. Unlike whatever the hell Singer puts out.
I really enjoyed DOFP but I really want the X-Men to go Deadpool's direction (again not the R rating but more being faithful to the material).
Deadpool was a success critically and commercially because it's a good movie, not necessarily because it's faithful to the source material.
It has happened already. Several times. There are people in these threads who claim Iron Man 3 is Catwoman levels of bad without any hint of sarcasm or self awareness for example.
They are wrong, of course. And people who shit on X-2 or DoFP are wrong too, regardless of the alt history being written every time another one comes out.
Universe is (was) prime for a reboot tho, I'd at least agree with that. DoFP was more of a passing of the torch/consolidation.
freenudemacusers
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This must mean transformers was faithful to its source material!
Just_myles
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X1 - I gave it a pass as I do all first time around superhero movies.
X2 - I absolutely hated. One great Nightcrawler scene and that's it for me. Other than that not much to keep me coming back. It quickly became the Wolverine movie.
X3 - At least they showed a Sentinel head.
Origins - ...
First Class - Absolutely loved it. It's a great movie that did not include Wolverine! I did not mind have Mystique's and Charle's relationship be a focal point in the story at all(two characters that for all I can remember never had much a major interaction). My favorite one.
Origins Wolverine Japan one iono- Horrible
DOFP - Not bad at all. The future scenes were awesome. I really enjoyed it despite being another Wolverine movie.
My take on these movies. They need more Cyclops.
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I completely disagree. You can say that a lot of it wasn't faithful to the source material but, it respected it. That is the key word you forgot. That's what made that movie great and what makes formulaic(yes formulaic) Marvel movies so amazing.
You don't have to copy panel for panel. By god you better show respect to the source material though. This should at this point be a fact. Find me a movie that wasn't and did well(Transformers doesn't count)?
Again, it's respect. Not copying. BvS was bad because it did not respect the source material....
X2 - I absolutely hated. One great Nightcrawler scene and that's it for me. Other than that not much to keep me coming back. It quickly became the Wolverine movie.
X3 - At least they showed a Sentinel head.
Origins - ...
First Class - Absolutely loved it. It's a great movie that did not include Wolverine! I did not mind have Mystique's and Charle's relationship be a focal point in the story at all(two characters that for all I can remember never had much a major interaction). My favorite one.
Origins Wolverine Japan one iono- Horrible
DOFP - Not bad at all. The future scenes were awesome. I really enjoyed it despite being another Wolverine movie.
My take on these movies. They need more Cyclops.
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icespide said:
I completely disagree. You can say that a lot of it wasn't faithful to the source material but, it respected it. That is the key word you forgot. That's what made that movie great and what makes formulaic(yes formulaic) Marvel movies so amazing.
You don't have to copy panel for panel. By god you better show respect to the source material though. This should at this point be a fact. Find me a movie that wasn't and did well(Transformers doesn't count)?
Tobor said:
Again, it's respect. Not copying. BvS was bad because it did not respect the source material....
I'll say it again. Michael Bay defies all logic and reason. He's the Donald Trump of directors.
freenudemacusers
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Jokes aside I have no idea lol. The last transformers was just unpleasant.
broncobuster
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I'm sure there will be a "rebelling against films from childhood" phase for kids growing up today. Saw that with Adam West Batman and Reeves Superman in my youth. Years later they'll learn to appreciate it.
did I say it wasn't faithful to the source material? re-read my post. I said that's not necessarily why it was a success
If you couldn't tell, I ain't high. I just don't fuck with the X-Men movies. They ain't given me reason to fuck with them
freenudemacusers
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I'll be praying for you 🙏🏻
It being faithful to the source material helped it be a good movie though.
Yep. Best movie colossus
Damn straight, dats our boy Piotr.
Whereas I don't know whatever the fuck this is supposed to be in the bottom.
I've already said my piece on why the Singer movies don't work for me as X-men films but I'll echo one point again - Deadpool using franchise characters as actual characters rather than misguided fanservice cameos makes a HUGE difference. Even though Negasonic for example shares basically nothing with the comicbook character apart from being female and a mutant, her character is completely unique and interesting within the context of the movie. There are things that define her and only her, and I'm not talking about her mutant abilities. The same goes for pretty much every major character in Deadpool except Angel Dust who (SURPRISE!) is the weakest recurring character in the entire movie.
Can you say the same about the cameos in Singer's movies? What the hell is Colossus all about in X2 or DoFP? What about Sunspot? Bishop? Or even Storm who appears in 3 of his movies? How about Deathstrike who is literally a puppet cameo villain who takes up a large chunk of screen time yet has no defining characteristics? Fans are supposed to be happy seeing these characters on screen like this??
Bobby Roberts
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Just to apply a little perspective with regards to this board specifically and its reception of the X-Movies:
As per the 2015 "Greatest Superhero Movies of All Time" poll conducted by inm8num2 last March:
Out of the 75 movies that were actually ranked (meaning they appeared somewhere in a user's personal Top 10)
#7) X2: X-Men United
#13) X-Men: Days of Future Past
#17) X-Men: First Class
#59) X-Men
Neither Wolverine movie, nor X-Men: The Last Stand was ranked.
It's probably a safe bet that Deadpool will find itself in the top 10 somewhere when the 2016 voting is done (I think he said September? I dunno.)
But still - that's GAF consensus (such as it is) deciding three X-films deserve spots in the top 20.
Of course, the consensus is an ever-shifting thing. Thanks to the Batman v. Superman review thread, I wouldn't be surprised at all to see both Iron Man 3 and Captain America: The First Avenger move up in their rankings—Iron Man 3 is currently #36, behind Return of the Joker, Man of Steel, and Spider-Man 3, Cap 1 is at #23, behind Blade II and The Dark Knight Rises.
As per the 2015 "Greatest Superhero Movies of All Time" poll conducted by inm8num2 last March:
Out of the 75 movies that were actually ranked (meaning they appeared somewhere in a user's personal Top 10)
#7) X2: X-Men United
#13) X-Men: Days of Future Past
#17) X-Men: First Class
#59) X-Men
Neither Wolverine movie, nor X-Men: The Last Stand was ranked.
It's probably a safe bet that Deadpool will find itself in the top 10 somewhere when the 2016 voting is done (I think he said September? I dunno.)
But still - that's GAF consensus (such as it is) deciding three X-films deserve spots in the top 20.
Of course, the consensus is an ever-shifting thing. Thanks to the Batman v. Superman review thread, I wouldn't be surprised at all to see both Iron Man 3 and Captain America: The First Avenger move up in their rankings—Iron Man 3 is currently #36, behind Return of the Joker, Man of Steel, and Spider-Man 3, Cap 1 is at #23, behind Blade II and The Dark Knight Rises.
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