TRUE ORDER
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Going to watch this movie in less than 24 hours, I'll post my impressions then. Hopefully I won't be dissapointed.
X-Men Apocalypse Review Thread
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some people would beg to differ
I'm out and... yup.
It's nowhere near as bad as it could have been. The worst superhero film I ever watched was Blade: Trinity, and it's much better than that. But.
First of all, the script is rubbish. If you drank every time you heard a line that's turned up in a dozen films before, you'd be smashed by the end of the first act. It's not that any of the dialogue is particularly bad, it's just so overdone. Samples (no spoilers):
My girlfriend and I were literally saying the responses to each other before they happened.
Second, I spent quite a lot of the run time wishing I was watching X-2 instead. This is partly because X-2 is good and partly because the film's choice to use those same heroes but worse (and stealing a couple of other plot points) kind of makes you think about it even if you don't want to.
Third... I can't tell if it's Singer or the producers, but nobody on this film seems to understand why any of the bits they've included worked. Quicksilver's sequence in DoFP didn't work when you broke it down, but it made sense at the time, and you enjoyed it there. Not the case here. Jennifer Lawrence seems to be there because someone knows she's popular, and nothing else. And so on, and so forth.
On balance, I'd probably give it 3 stars, but then I am a huge sucker for superhero films. There's some (not many, but some) creative ideas with the characters... but it's not particularly engaging, and I think the phrase "holding pattern" is worryingly accurate.
It's nowhere near as bad as it could have been. The worst superhero film I ever watched was Blade: Trinity, and it's much better than that. But.
First of all, the script is rubbish. If you drank every time you heard a line that's turned up in a dozen films before, you'd be smashed by the end of the first act. It's not that any of the dialogue is particularly bad, it's just so overdone. Samples (no spoilers):
"People always fear what they do not understand." "I buried it like I buried my family."
Second, I spent quite a lot of the run time wishing I was watching X-2 instead. This is partly because X-2 is good and partly because the film's choice to use those same heroes but worse (and stealing a couple of other plot points) kind of makes you think about it even if you don't want to.
Third... I can't tell if it's Singer or the producers, but nobody on this film seems to understand why any of the bits they've included worked. Quicksilver's sequence in DoFP didn't work when you broke it down, but it made sense at the time, and you enjoyed it there. Not the case here. Jennifer Lawrence seems to be there because someone knows she's popular, and nothing else. And so on, and so forth.
On balance, I'd probably give it 3 stars, but then I am a huge sucker for superhero films. There's some (not many, but some) creative ideas with the characters... but it's not particularly engaging, and I think the phrase "holding pattern" is worryingly accurate.
Mix Master
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I dont get the First class dislike, the scene with Erik and charles fighting on the beach is my favorite from the franchise and has more emotions than the majority of the MCU and DC movies.
Not to mention that fassbender is the best actor working in comic book movies today, by lightyears.
Fassbender>>>>>>>> anybody else.
Not to mention that fassbender is the best actor working in comic book movies today, by lightyears.
Fassbender>>>>>>>> anybody else.
Discotheque
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well...yeah, he's the best working actor in all movies today as well.
Mix Master
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Shame from steve mcqueen>>>>>>
Light between the oceans looks good as hell, Fassbender is the GOAT.
Fassbender in FC was great but what's with his accent change at the end of the movie?
BossDarkseid
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Seeing it tomorrow. I look forward to Apocalypse and part of me wants to look forward to Psylocke but eh.
SamualDude
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Saw it last night. Really enjoyed. I get why people are devise about it but I thought most of it worked
Saw it today, loved it. Much better then Civil War/Batman. Dead Pool and this have been the best comic book movies of the year. Future Past is still the best so far but this was good in its own right, the group I was with agreed too. Everyone in the cinema went nuts for Quicksilver. Spidey scene was good in CW but QS really got people excited.
This is why I love these movies so much. Using human events with mutant influence really works, some of the most horrific moments in mankind's history and some of our miricles with mutants being involved seems far easier to swallow in this fantastical yet grounded universe. I just find it easier to digest and more importantly, fascinating to ponder.
Love Singer style.
This is why I love these movies so much. Using human events with mutant influence really works, some of the most horrific moments in mankind's history and some of our miricles with mutants being involved seems far easier to swallow in this fantastical yet grounded universe. I just find it easier to digest and more importantly, fascinating to ponder.
Love Singer style.
rocketskates
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Last couple of posts have me looking forward to it.
The Weapon X gave us Jackman violence porn though and damn it is good.^~^
sleverfunk
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Saw it last night. I would rate just behind Dofp.
Mags just can't catch a break. Really felt bad for him. My gf was sobbing when that thing happened.
Mags just can't catch a break. Really felt bad for him. My gf was sobbing when that thing happened.
This might be the best thing Singer's ever done haha
SolidChamp
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It isn't even close to being that bad.
It's solid entertainment with some glaring flaws/odd directorial decisions.
SolidChamp
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WTF? Spoiler tag your shit, bruh.
longdi
Banned
I thought dofp and fc were much better, and the reasons mainly being more mutant characters focused.
Superhero shows where you get an omnipotent baddie out from nowhere and doing some disaster end of world shit, yeah those didn't work well.
Apocalypse IMO is 6.5 show, huge downgrade from dofp.
And end of show spoiler
Superhero shows where you get an omnipotent baddie out from nowhere and doing some disaster end of world shit, yeah those didn't work well.
Apocalypse IMO is 6.5 show, huge downgrade from dofp.
And end of show spoiler
why did apocalypse get rekt so easily by Jeane?
Jack Remington
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They should really just say fuck the timeline and bring the current actors into the present.
It doesnt matter at this point anyway
TrumanBurbank
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JLaw needs a franchise now since Hunger Games and this are over. I don't think movies like Passengers are going to be big hits for her.
Maybe she doesn't want to be a blockbuster movie star though...
Maybe she doesn't want to be a blockbuster movie star though...
I doubt she has a shortage of big offers.
Jack Remington
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Is it at least better than Thor 2?
YesNOnoNOYes
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well.... that's kinda hard to compare against cuz thor was a single-hero movie
this one is more comparable to BvS, Avengers/Ultron/CivWar, cuz multi-heroes
and it's better than BvS.... which i have been advised by gaf, to be actually thor (2): the dark world
so........... yes? i guess
???Yes, because Thor 2 is boring. This isn't boring. But some of it is kinda bad.
BossDarkseid
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Just got out the cinema. It was quite fun, but plenty dumb and no part really made me feel like "I've been waiting for this". Coulda cut a good 20-40 mins.
Fun tho.
Fun tho.
catashtrophe
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Still no OT
:-/
:-/
Spikematic
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I liked it a lot. Not as much as Civil War of course and not as good as DoFP either, but I thought it was extremely entertaining with some really cool scenes. It helps that Fassbender, McAvoy and Isaac are among the best actors working today. They really did elevate the meh source material in each and every scene. And I was quite surprised that I wound up liking the new (old?) young mutants. Even Sansa Jean was handled quite well! Lawrence is still a terrible Mystique but she didn't phone it in as much as the previous movie IMO and wasn't as much "in the way."
Overall, a thumbs up from me. I'm glad I didn't pay heed to all those nasty reviews. I highly recommend it to super hero movie fans and especially those who have seen the previous X-Men movies.
Overall, a thumbs up from me. I'm glad I didn't pay heed to all those nasty reviews. I highly recommend it to super hero movie fans and especially those who have seen the previous X-Men movies.
Atraveller
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It's a decent popcorn movie, I don't know why it was reviewed so negatively.
Jorok Goldblade
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Because it's coming out three weeks after a great popcorn movie dealing with similar subject matter. Expectations are set much higher.
Atraveller
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It's the better "false god" movie
Jorok Goldblade
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It's the better "false god" movie
Yeah, but the other "false god" movie won't be an option at the ticket counter by the time this sees wide release. The other jam-packed Marvel movie, however, will.
I thought the score was decent. It's around 50-ish right? Which is middling. I'd probably give it around 65-70 but critics obviously have higher standard than peons like us. It's entertaining but not memorable like DoFP. That X-Men theme is still Godly though.
TRUE ORDER
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Watched it on saturday, i liked it (not as much as DOFP) although the last battle/ending felt somewhat short it should be around the 60-70% on RT IMHO.
Loved Psylocke!
Loved Psylocke!
anotherVegan
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I enjoyed it, but not as much as the first movie, X2, or DoFP. But still rank it much higher than X3.
The ending was very
, which wasn't terrible. I still feel like Singer was trying to correct things done wrong in X3
and Origins Wolverine, but they didn't necessarily need correcting since it already was in the last movie.
Anyway, it was still fun, will catch the next one.
The ending was very
DragonBall Z
(Phoenix)
Anyway, it was still fun, will catch the next one.
I just saw it and it was solid, but as a whole I saw it as a missed opportunity for many reasons. First Class was so original and I love it for that, and DoFP seemed like a means to softly reboot the series so they can use the original characters, but Apocalypse seemed to have the same problem DoFP had but worse. It just set-up characters in a disappointing and rushed way. Characters like Storm and Nightcrawler deserved better. Even Cyclops and Jean to some extent, I mean we didn't even spend much time with them together to see their relationship grow.
The majority of the film felt like it served the plot more than the characters, and only a few scenes managed to accomplish both such as Magneto and Quicksilver's subplots (
).
Also, a lot of the dialogue was way too heavy-handed and I'm officially tired of seeing Jennifer Lawrence's Mystique. It was an interesting take on the character in First Class but in this she just felt "there" for the sole reason of getting some characters together and being the voice of reason and leadership.
But with all the flaws, I just couldn't help but get chills during some scenes as a long-time X-Men fan.
In the end I feel like this movie set-up things so that we can potentially get a great film down the road, and I'm super excited for the "90s X-Men" film we're supposedly getting next. I just want two things in the next movie, and the ending of this hints at both:
And one more personal flaw - Nightcrawler deserved his own "Quicksilver" moment. It could have been set-up differently to have him
, but it just didn't happen and I was disappointed.
X-Men movie rankings:
First Class
X2
X-Men
DoFP
Apocalypse
X3
The majority of the film felt like it served the plot more than the characters, and only a few scenes managed to accomplish both such as Magneto and Quicksilver's subplots (
AND WHY THE FUCK DIDN'T QUICKSILVER JUST SAY HE WAS MAGNETO'S SON!?
Also, a lot of the dialogue was way too heavy-handed and I'm officially tired of seeing Jennifer Lawrence's Mystique. It was an interesting take on the character in First Class but in this she just felt "there" for the sole reason of getting some characters together and being the voice of reason and leadership.
But with all the flaws, I just couldn't help but get chills during some scenes as a long-time X-Men fan.
Seeing the Phoenix is always cool and Wolverine always gets me excited. I thought the Weapon X costume was awesome and having him be totally silent was great.
In the end I feel like this movie set-up things so that we can potentially get a great film down the road, and I'm super excited for the "90s X-Men" film we're supposedly getting next. I just want two things in the next movie, and the ending of this hints at both:
Sentinels and 90s inspired costumes.
And one more personal flaw - Nightcrawler deserved his own "Quicksilver" moment. It could have been set-up differently to have him
save everyone in the exploding mansion
X-Men movie rankings:
First Class
X2
X-Men
DoFP
Apocalypse
X3
QuantumZebra
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this is all truth
Fassbender and Kevin Bacon were fucking great in First Class. And DOFP was an awesome film.
Yes! He was/is by far the best villain in any Marvel-based film to date... the only possible exception being Willem Dafoe's Goblin in SM1 or Doc Oc in SM2.
Bacon's character was legit scary for me. Dude just didn't give a fuck. Pure evil yet didn't feel as bland as many MCU vilains.
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