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[Negotiator101]

Damn I was critical of Sony for going to PC but if Phil is this shook they must be on to something

Maybe Horizon outsold all of their recent PC games

He's criticising them for not bringing their games to PC at the same time, meaning he thinks they should support PC gamers better. Whatever you are thinking is perhaps brought on by hallucinogenic drugs.

Haha fuck off Phil.

I'll gladly buy shit twice if it's good enough to buy twice.

How about you focus on giving us a few things that are at least worth buying once?

Also where are my Steam copies of Forza Horizon 4 and Gears?

He wants better value for the consumer and you say "fuck off"? Are you an idiot?

 

[Holammer]

Bit early to criticize Sony's entry/toe dipping into the PC market.

Damn I was critical of Sony for going to PC but if Phil is this shook they must be on to something

Maybe Horizon outsold all of their recent PC games

Nah, MS are killing it on sales judging from metrics we can gauge on Steam and they offer stuff that appeal to PC gamers. Like Racing, survival/crafting/open world.
However, there are games in Sony's arsenal waiting for release that'll steal MS's lunch money. Not only titles like Bloodborne, but upcoming Sony first party GaaS offerings developed to appeal to the PC crowd.

That might keep him up at night.

 

[IntentionalPun]

He's criticising them for not bringing their games to PC at the same time, meaning he thinks they should support PC gamers better. Whatever you are thinking is perhaps brought on by hallucinogenic drugs.

He didn't even do that.. he literally is just saying their offering has an advantage over their competitors.

There is no criticism levied.. he never says anyone else should change.

 

[Spidey Fan]

I knew you sniffed your own farts

i wish, but fanboys seems to sniff their fart alot, and by your words, you seem to like farting and sniffing it. enjoy your plastic friend.

I have 3 devices to enjoy, than to engage with your blabbering.

 

[Bernd Lauert]

Reached page 3 within 30 minutes. Impressive

 

[alabtrosMyster]

If the negative Phil thread are banned, why are any Phil thread tolerated in this place?

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

He didn't even do that.. he literally is just saying their offering has an advantage over their competitors.

There is no criticism levied.. he never says anyone else should change.

"Others bring console games to PC years later, not only making people buy their hardware up front, but then charging them a second time to play on PC"

How is that not criticism?

 

[Abriael_GN]

He literally is just saying their offering has an advantage over Sony, without mentioning their name.

Exactly. It's hilarious that this has been maliciously turned into "criticizes PlayStation" to trigger the fanboys and get those hate clicks.

God forbid that the head of a platform says "hey, my platform has these features that others don't, so buy my platform."

 

[Negotiator101]

He's not wrong about charging twice.

But I have no doubt that some will find a way to argue that having to pay twice for the same game is actually good

Yeah they already have the mind of a fanboy is balanced on a knife edge between stupid and really stupid.

 

[Abriael_GN]

"Others bring console games to PC years later, not only making people buy their hardware up front, but then charging them a second time to play on PC"

How is that not criticism?

So if Jim Ryan said "we have the best story-driven narrative single-player games that you can't find on any other platform" (which he actually says a lot) he's criticizing Microsoft and Nintendo?

 

[Chukhopops]

He must be mad people are still willing to pay full price for PlayStation ports on PC so maybe Sony is making tons of money while maintaining that PS exclusive demand.

Maybe so but what he said would still be true. I don't get why people get so mad about truth being said, and in a pretty mild way too.

I fully understand why Sony follows this strategy and there's nothing wrong about pointing it out.

 

[IntentionalPun]

"Others bring console games to PC years later, not only making people buy their hardware up front, but then charging them a second time to play on PC"

How is that not criticism?

He is describing a difference between their product and a competitors.. that's.. literally it.. factual statements.

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

So if Jim Ryan said "we have the best story-driven narrative single-player games that you can't find on any other platform" (which he actually says a lot) he's criticizing Microsoft and Nintendo?

If he said "Other platforms don't even provide good story driven games" then, yes?

 

[MasterCornholio]

Thats a lot of shoes.

 

[Bladed Thesis]

"Others bring console games to PC years later, not only making people buy their hardware up front, but then charging them a second time to play on PC"

How is that not criticism?

It's only criticism if you see it (the delay between console to pc launch) as a negative. I thought a lot of people saw the delay of Sony titles going from Playstation to PC as a positive and means to make more money.

Is this no longer the case?

 

[Kokoloko85]

Why is Phil such a passive aggressive twat lol. Worry about your own company. Because Playstation seems to be doing fine

 

[DeepEnigma]

Thats a lot of shoes.

Slaaaayyyyyyy

 

[fallingdove]

Phil is such an idiot. I don't know why Xbox fans continue to worship such two-faced bullshittery.

This is the same person that said Xbox owners shouldn't feel like second class citizens. Launching games on Xbox, PC, mobile devices, TVs, etc on the same day galvanizes Xbox console owners as second class citizens. There is absolutely no reason to own the Xbox console — PCs are more powerful, mobile devices more convenient, TVs more accessible.

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

He is describing a difference between their product and a competitors.. that's.. literally it.. factual statements.

This is daft. Just look at his wording

"Making people buy their hardware"

Come the fuck on you're not this dense

 

[Abriael_GN]

If he said "Other platforms don't even provide good story driven games" then, yes?

That's not what Spencer has said. That's a subjective statement. What Spencer said is an objective statement of fact that simply describes a feature that his platform has and others don't.

There's a large difference between that and criticism.

 

[IntentionalPun]

This is daft. Just look at his wording

"Making people buy their hardware"

Come the fuck on you're not this dence

Notice the difference between that and your example that used the word "good."

The phrasing is still a fact... "good" is not a fact.

 

[kyliethicc]

He is describing a difference between their product and a competitors.. that's.. literally it.. factual statements.

"Others bring console games to PC years later, not only making people buy their hardware up front, but then charging them a second time to play on PC."

This is factually incorrect. Nobody is forced to buy a console or buy a game twice.

He's spinning a narrative to talk shit. Suit things.

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

That's not what Spencer has said. That's a subjective statement. What Spencer said is an objective statement of fact that simply describes a feature that his platform has and others don't.

There's a large difference between that and criticism.

There are two quotes if you didn't realise

 

[FatKingBallman]

He is right.

He's not wrong.

He's not wrong about charging twice

He's right,

But he's right of course. I've definitely double dipped.

Well, he surely forgot Steam for some reason. PC isn't only Windows, Windows Store and Xbox app.

What the hell is with PC gamers pretending that if a game isn't on Steam, it's not on PC? Cult-like behaviour. Xbox studios games are all on PC.

Pecause Windows PC Store i crap. That's why they are using Steam. It is not a cult

 

[Kokoloko85]

Remember when Phil, greenburger and their army of trolls kept saying google and Amazon were their competitors and not Sony.

Yet for the last 12 months all they do is talk about Sony.

After praising Ratchet and Clank yesterday. Guys a cuck.
Sony and Nintendo being exclusive to there consoles is 1 of the reason they sell more than xbox

 

[Bernd Lauert]

Phil is such an idiot. I don't know why Xbox fans continue to worship such two-faced bullshittery.

This is the same person that said Xbox owners shouldn't feel like second class citizens. Launching games on Xbox, PC, mobile devices, TVs, etc on the same day galvanizes Xbox console owners as second class citizens. There is absolutely no reason to own the Xbox console — PCs are more powerful, mobile devices more convenient, TVs more accessible.

Reasons to own an Xbox: 1. Doesn't cost 2000 dollars 2. You don't have to rely on streaming.

 

[The Hamburglar]

maybe sony should release gamepass. Xbox people are feasting with gamepass. This year, they got mlb and outriders for free. What did sony did for their users, charge them 70$.

see, i can use your words.

honestly, this is shit, that i have to stoop to your level.

Here's this game pass fanatic again saying game pass is free. 180 dollars a year isn't free, especially for casuals.

 

[Reindeer]

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[Ass of Can Whooping]

Notice the difference between that and your example that used the word "good."

The phrasing is still a fact... "good" is not a fact.

Wait, if you're stating a fact its not criticism? Lmao what?

 

[Abriael_GN]

Well, he surely forgot Steam for some reason.

If you want to play any Microsoft game on PC, you don't need Steam.

 

[Mister Wolf]

I appreciate Microsoft's commitment to PC gaming. Both The Ascent and Dark Alliance are day one PC Gamepass. Both will have co-op crossplay between PC and Xbox.

 

[I Love Rock 'n' Roll]

You're a looser Phil!

 

[MrS]

I appreciate Microsoft's commitment to PC gaming. Both The Ascent and Dark Alliance are day one PC Gamepass. Both will have co-op crossplay between PC and Xbox.

Both games look good too. The Ascent looks like it could be great, in fact.

 

[Melfice7]

Biggest tool in the industry, but jimbo is closing the gap

 

[FatKingBallman]

If you want to play any Microsoft game on PC, you don't need Steam.

Yeah, but bunch of people won't use Windows Store. Why Phil then don't allow free upgrade for Steam users if he is so proud on releasing games on PC/Xbox/cloud simultaneously and charging it once?

 

[IntentionalPun]

"Others bring console games to PC years later, not only making people buy their hardware up front, but then charging them a second time to play on PC."

This is factually incorrect. Nobody is forced to buy a console or buy a game twice.

He's spinning a narrative to talk shit. Suit things.

Sure, it's spin.. purposefully phrased a certain way.

Much like this click-bait article spun it.

My point is.. people are being way too fucking sensitive lol

Like.. even if you consider it criticism.. are people in this thread Sony? Do they work there?

We all have these products available to us.. all companies praise their features over other companies.. it's basic marketing lol

 

[SirTerry-T]

Phil, what have I told you about upsetting the boys and girls.

 

[Abriael_GN]

Yeah, but bunch of people won't use Windows Store.

That's your choice. Microsoft isn't making you pay twice. You're the one who wants to if you want to use a different client. That's 100% on you. If you want to play the same game on PC that you're playing on Xbox, you 100% can without paying a dime.

If you want to play a PS game on PC, you have no choice. You have to pay full price.

 

[Mister Wolf]

Both games look good too. The Ascent looks like it could be great, in fact.

Those two games are gonna give me, my family, and friends alot of hours of co-op fun. We are all getting tired of Hunt Showdown and Vermintide 2.

 

[Spidey Fan]

Here's this game pass fanatic again saying game pass is free. 180 dollars a year isn't free, especially for casuals.

That is much better than spending 70$ per game, plus 60$ a year for ps+ just to play first party games.

Ratchet, demon soul, + 60 ps+ is already 200$. While xbox players get gamepass ultimate for 180$ a year, with all 1st party day 1, other day 1 games. Other gamepass games. Can play on pc. And on their phone.

One party managed to get 2 games and year ps+, while the other party got huge library of games and Xbox live 1 year for 180$.

Which has better value for consumers, tell me?

 

[IntentionalPun]

Yeah, but bunch of people won't use Windows Store. Why Phil then don't allow free upgrade for Steam users if he is so proud on releasing games on PC/Xbox/cloud simultaneously and charging it once?

There is no system in place to allow that, outside of just giving away steam codes.. which people could sell.. and isn't really a great suggestion.

Valve appears to be working on a system though; based on some Steam update leaks from last year... but we haven't seen anything yet, or whether MS would tie into it.

 

[Katt”BuckNasty”Johnston]

Why are you pretending theres other platforms outside of steam?

Hey the Epic Game store solidly mediocre!

 

[ethomaz]

Weird take.

MS gives you the Windows Store version of the game if you have it on Xbox… a version nobody cares.
You still needs to buy the Steam, GOG, EGS, etc versions on PC.

Sony doesn't have a Store on PC…. they use Steam, EGS, etc and you need to pay for the game just like MS games in these stores.

 

[GHG]

He wants better value for the consumer and you say "fuck off"? Are you an idiot?

I decide what's good value and what isn't. If I want to buy something multiple times because I like it enough then I'll do so.

I know that you look up to him in a big way but he's not my daddy.

 

[ZywyPL]

Well he's right. With Play Anywhere and Smart Delivery you do buy the game once and play it on whatever playform that has Windows on it. I skipped PS4/XB1 gen, but some of their games I bought on PC during that time are now available on my XSX, with all the progression and save games. Just like that. Sony did nothing for me as a PC gamer, and even tho they have recently started porting their games to PC, it's not as user friendly, to say the least. But I understand that Sony wants to have as much people as possible on PS5 first and foremost, and the EGS/Steam releases are rather targeted towards people who wouldn't get the console anyway, but thean again, with such strategy they'll never convice PC gamers into their console.

 

[FatKingBallman]

That is much better than spending 70$ per game, plus 60$ a year for ps+ just to play first party games.

Ratchet, demon soul, + 60 ps+ is already 200$. While xbox players get gamepass ultimate for 180$ a year, with all 1st party day 1, other day 1 games. Other gamepass games. Can play on pc. And on their phone.

One party managed to get 2 games and year ps+, while the other party got huge library of games and Xbox live 1 year for 180$.

Which has better value for consumers, tell me?

And one party still doesn't have any exclusives for XS. Terrible value then.

 

[GHG]

steam=/=their store. plus their game is on steam.

That's exactly the point I'm making, well done.

 

[ethomaz]

I mean he isn't wrong. Factually he is correct.

So why the ask money for the Steam/EGS/GOG release of their games?

He is just full of shit again.

 

[Joshmyersbv]

Ok and the Halo MCC is different because? Remasters are charging twice too and both companies allow that shit.

 

[IntentionalPun]

So why the ask money for the Steam/EGS/GOG release of their games?

He is just full of shit again.

There is no mechanism to do that built into those stores..

You are being obtuse.. people don't like Windows Store.. but people across Xbox / PC do in fact use it for crossbuy.. or GPU. Begrudgingly, but it's there.