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Xbox allowing AO (Adults Only) games on their platform now?

Power Pro

Member
I thought the thing with all consoles seemed to be, you get an AO rating, and your game is not allowed. I hadn't heard any different for Xbox. Hell there have been cases where Microsoft wanted certain Japanese games censored to be on their platform.

I was just browsing the store, and I saw this meh looking title in the upcoming games, and didn't think much of it, except when I saw the AO rating pop up in the autoplay of the trailer.


No idea what makes this game AO...it looks like your bog standard indie horror game.
 

ssringo

Member
Could just be excessive or graphic violence or dismemberment. Didn't see anything of note in any screenshots so who knows. Probably just fishing for engagement as the dev looks to be another copypasta shovelware company. 6 releases in under a year, 2 more in the next couple weeks and 4 more coming soon on Steam.
 
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Isa

Gold Member
Could be a good way to turn some heads, being the first notable AO game since what, the Atari 2600? Granted there were those BMX XXX games and their ilk. It would be nice to see some games meant for adults on consoles finally, even if it means a more advanced security check.
 
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Thick Thighs Save Lives

NeoGAF's Physical Games Advocate Extraordinaire
Switch already has a bunch of dating sim games like Bunny Garden on the eShop so I wonder if Xbox will be open to having these as well.

 

Sakura

Member
According to wikipedia there have only been 26 games that have released with an AO rating and none were on console.
Maybe it is a mistake, or it is a rating that was given for the build that was submitted to the ESRB, and it will be changed for release?

Switch already has a bunch of dating sim games like Bunny Garden on the eShop so I wonder if Xbox will be open to having these as well.

Bunny Garden is a pretty tame game, it's only rated T.
 
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jufonuk

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Could be a good way to turn some heads, being the first notable AO game since what, the Atari 2600? Granted there were those BMX XXX games and their ilk. It would be nice to see some games meant for adults on consoles finally, even if it means a more advanced security check.
Remember how all those crappy games on Atari caused the video game crash ? Is MS trying to take everyone out with them ?
 

Isa

Gold Member
Remember how all those crappy games on Atari caused the video game crash ? Is MS trying to take everyone out with them ?
That would be funny, I wouldn't be that surprised to see a crash and them surviving whereas many others would fold. Even casuals might hope onboard streaming just to get some modern gaming kicks if that was one of the only options from a far smaller selection.
 

Sakura

Member
Oh, It's marked as Adult Only on Steam so I thought it was the same on Switch.
I believe the Adult's Only is marked by the devs in this case. Maybe they're worried about getting banned from Steam considering how they've treated other Japanese games in the past.
The way Steam works is a little dumb, a game like this has user tags like "hentai" even though it has no nudity and there isn't even so much as kissing.
 
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Sushi_Combo

Member
AO is generally a death knell for sales in the US because you can't advertise the game and a prospective buyer has to show ID when buying it, at least AFAIK.

Look at the list of games that had to get edited to go down from AO to M. Makes for interesting reading tbh.

With the death of physical media this might not be an issue if they can be sold on digital storefronts.
 

Thick Thighs Save Lives

NeoGAF's Physical Games Advocate Extraordinaire
I believe the Adult's Only is marked by the devs in this case. Maybe they're worried about getting banned from Steam considering how they've treated other Japanese games in the past.
The way Steam works is a little dumb, a game like this has user tags like "hentai" even though it has no nudity and there isn't even so much as kissing.
Thinking a bit about it, that makes sense. Thanks for the explanation.
 

Astray

Member
With the death of physical media this might not be an issue if they can be sold on digital storefronts.
It is and it isn't.

On one hand, AO is no longer a death knell because the inconvenience is gone, but on the other hand, maybe in the future you get required to give over ID when opening a PSN or Xbox account (right now all the platforms basically operate on the assumption of you being old enough to have a credit card).

It's gonna be a fuzzy grey area that may bring govt intervention if a situation arises that brings politician eyes on it.

The ESA is a body comprised of big publishers, which basically does this game rating stuff to regulate itself, which the US games industry views as being a better option than allowing themselves to be regulated by the govt.

In other countries, the respective govts do this task.
 

Eiknarf

Banned
According to wikipedia there have only been 26 games that have released with an AO rating and none were on console.
Maybe it is a mistake, or it is a rating that was given for the build that was submitted to the ESRB, and it will be changed for release?


Bunny Garden is a pretty tame game, it's only rated T.
What’s odd is, games like Dead or Alive Xtreme 3 weren’t even rated AO and were still banned in the States.
Wasn’t that rated M? Or RP (for Rating Pending)?
 

adamsapple

Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
What’s odd is, games like Dead or Alive Xtreme 3 weren’t even rated AO and were still banned in the States.
Wasn’t that rated M? Or RP (for Rating Pending)?

DoA3 X is not banned in the US. The publisher just chose not to bring it.

 
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Hudo

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AO is generally a death knell for sales in the US because you can't advertise the game and a prospective buyer has to show ID when buying it, at least AFAIK.

Look at the list of games that had to get edited to go down from AO to M. Makes for interesting reading tbh.

that's hilarious that many games on that list could be bought back then by 16 years olds here in Germany. However, stuff like Quake 3 or Dead Rising effectively received the equivalent of an US AO rating (you cannot advertise and publicly display the games but you can still buy them if you were over 18. But only behind the counter).
 

Eiknarf

Banned
DoA3 X is not banned in the US. The publisher just chose not to bring it.

True
Yeah, I mean, I had it (the physical version), but had to import it. And it’s not available on the PlayStation store unless you change your location, right?

It’s just dumb to ban, censor, or edit when it comes to art/games/entertainment.
 

CamHostage

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Maybe it is a mistake, or it is a rating that was given for the build that was submitted to the ESRB, and it will be changed for release?

Likely it is just an error, right?

There are no descriptors, which would absolutely be required for any game that deep in the rating categories. The PEGI rating is 18 on Euro Xbox site, but that also seems off since the only descriptor is "Criminal Instruction Technique", and there is known to be violence in the game which would be in that rating. Also, the ESRB doesn't list the rating (although that archive is far from complete.) And there's no sign of a blockchain component, which would be the only other odd way that a game would get an AO these days besides sexual content.

My guess is that the developer just plugged in the datapoints needed to get the listing live and don't have the actual certification yet (even though the game supposedly is releasing today) and for whatever reason listed it as the furthest-down rating rather than the expected M. That, or like you said, they are in resubmittal after somehow triggering an AO, and so they have to show this even though the rating is likely to change. (You would think Xbox would have caught this in their archive since, as Astray said about the legal issues of AO retailing, there are big complications over having this rating without incredibly strict policies in place. However, digital markets move fast and don't have a lot of manual oversight handling the products.)

The Steam version went up unrated, but its mature content callout doesn't describe anything in the extreme side of content.
This Game may contain content not appropriate for all ages, or may not be appropriate for viewing at work: Frequent Violence or Gore, General Mature Content
 
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adamsapple

Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
What exactly makes this one AO? I have one AO game and that's Hatred.

Nothing specific, looking online, seems like the game is rated M on Steam and M equivalent in UK on Xbox, seems like just the US Xbox has it as AO.
 

Eiknarf

Banned
As well as Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, etc. etc. They're all absolutely terrified of boobs.
Even modern streaming shows

They show penis and all the male full frontal nudity and male ass you desire - But I’ve yet to see tits the way they used to be shown in the 80s and 90s…

It’s like they’re over correcting and going too far the other way. That’s not how you fix a situation. That’s how seven-year-olds THINK they’re fixing a situation on the playground; “NOW YOU KNOW HOW IT FEELS!”
 
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Astray

Member
that's hilarious that many games on that list could be bought back then by 16 years olds here in Germany. However, stuff like Quake 3 or Dead Rising effectively received the equivalent of an US AO rating (you cannot advertise and publicly display the games but you can still buy them if you were over 18. But only behind the counter).
Yeah cultural differences can have huge effects lol.
 

Three

Member
DoA3 X is not banned in the US. The publisher just chose not to bring it.

Why are you pointing to a Shu interview for this?


Koei Tecmo was the publisher and they chose not to bring it.
 
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Three

Member
It was the first article on search, I'm not trying to imply that sony blocked it, guns down :p
It was just a weird link to use and you being you had me wondering.

The 4gamer interviewer asked if more Japanese devs should bring their games to the west and how with DOA Koei Tecmo decided not to. It was just mentioned in passing from older news. Shu mentioned how the west lambasted games like Dragons Crown too so he understands the cultural differences and Koei Tecmos decision which they had already made public weeks ago. Somehow nichegamer turned the already known piece of info into news Shu was breaking. Weird.
 
That’s shocking considering they just were very vocal about not having curvy women in their games…….so much for that I guess eh Phil? Looks like between this and them recently shutting down a DEI dept. I guess MS realizes sex does sell and money matters more than diversity to MS.
 
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CamHostage

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That’s shocking considering they just were very vocal about not having curvy women in their games…….so much for that I guess eh Phil? Looks like between this and them recently shutting down a DEI dept. I guess MS realizes sex does sell and money matters more than diversity to MS.

Dude, you are way up in your head about the culture wars. This is a meaningless game most likely flagged wrong in the directory, it isn't happening because of a course-reversal at Xbox Studios on DEI initiatives and does not open the floodgates for some tidal wave of porn games. Watch a video of the game being played and see how likely this rating is to be incorrect.
 

CamHostage

Member
No idea what makes this game AO...it looks like your bog standard indie horror game.

Nothing I can see except that at the end of the game, an event happens where a
church...
burns down accidentally. The cross and pulpit are seen engulfed in flame.

(Anti-spoiled in case somebody actually wants to play this thing...)

In the ratings board process, this event might have been flagged as a priority concern for potential religious/social implications, which may have been labeled as AO even though it's more of a preliminary checkpoint designation, and the rating might have stuck in the Xbox Certification process. The actual 'shipping' game though likely would have been re-rated or modified slightly or just cleared upon inspection for the content not carrying implications beyond the story being told.

Or, it's a mistake in the listing.

...Or, there's hidden pornography in it for absolutely no knowable reason and all Adults-Only heck is about to let loose.
 
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