PlayStaytion
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Xbox At A Sega-Like Fork In The Road And May Stop Making Consoles, Ex-PlayStation Boss Says
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PlayStaytion
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Bobby Kotick sounds smarter at this point.
PlayStaytion
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You do know narrators are part of any story.
Ar¢tos
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We had a new thread every time Phil Spencer even farted. He sometimes gave 2 interviews a week and we had 2 or 3 concurrent threads about them.
If we didn't do a Phil Spencer OT back then why should we do it now for Shawn Layden?
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Honestly I don't know exactly what they are thinking, but its not standardization.
Magnus is way too big and expensive a chip not to end up sitting in hardware that's at PC-level price points. Doubly so because any vendor selling such a device who isn't MS needs to make return on investment based on hardware alone as they are aren't the ones making bank off of licensing software for that platform ecosystem.
It is essentially another PC, albeit one with Xbox compatible branding.
A near pointless feature as modern Xbox offers virtually nothing that isn't also on PC already, and the part that hasn't -the back catalogue- has been run into the ground through overexposure over the past decade plus where they had basically nothing substantial to offer beyond better back cat support than Sony and Nintendo.
I suspect it might just exist as a physical expression of a hardware-compatibility standard that can extend up to and including high-end PC - basically a thing to develop for and not a mass-market product.
I cannot see them changing course on the whole "xbox anywhere" approach even if growth is slower than expected, and the "target box" approach is still valid within that business model as they will need something consistently specced going forwards to populate their AZURE back-end with.
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We not both?
Ar¢tos
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I would prefer none.
I'm tired of has-beens desperately trying to stay relevant.
It's not specifically Magnus. "Magnus" is just a part of the agreement with AMD.
The technologic agreement includes all types of devices, even Xcloud servers. It's clearly an attempt at standardization.
The fact that it's limited to devices with the XBOX label or the greater or lesser success they achieve in the attempt doesn't change the purpose of the Big agreement with AMD is this.
Then, "Magnus" unique feature is its openness to upgrades and its versatility to adapt to mid-lower-power in future devices, not just high-end products. Obviously, in 2026 (when it's supposed to be released), it will be an advanced and premium chip, but over time, it could actually be the basis for other types of devices.
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It's safe to say the next Xbox will be closer to a standard Windows PC, to the point it will support Win32 apps through it's store. No point fragmenting their platforms with different API environments
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ecosse_011172
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But no-one will care, no-one will buy it.
The brand is almost dead.
Other manufactures must be excited at the prospect of cashing in on the huge sales of Xbox hardware by making their own Xbox.
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mckmas8808
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Why do yall keep saying this? Sony didn't say they were moving away from consoles. What is going on with people today?
ChorizoPicozo
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they are desperate to justify Xbox retarded moves
cinnamonandgravy
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give. xbox. to. sega.
Dr. Samuel Hayden
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Yes
ecosse_011172
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Tobimacoss
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Sega could actually build their own Xbox consoles as an OEM. With their own PC store.
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HeisenbergFX4
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So they can just remove him physically again?
So the rumor is anyhow he had to be held back from going after someone
Horseganador
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Layden is right, at the hardware level Xbox is almost dead but unlike Sega they have the economic power to try again, even if it doesn't work.
Badlucktroll
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microsoft maybe switching xbox to some smoke and mirrors open system gives me flashbacks of this nonsense
mckmas8808
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HeisenbergFX4
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That's literally all I heard was that he went after someone in their meeting and was physically restrained and removed
Explain please.......
No idea how true it is honestly but trust the person who repeated it to me
mckmas8808
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That's nuts lol. I'd be curious what it was about. It'd be funny if it was only something business related like not wanting PS games on PC or some other exec hated him opinion on Live Service games.
MacReady13
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What makes you say that? 2 of the 3 console manufactures are selling like crazy. Only 1 of them can't sell so that means the days of consoles are numbered? Microsoft are pushing this narrative cause they lost the console war they were desperate to win. They are now trying to make out like consoles are a waste of time and that everything they do is a push for some mystical gaming future...
GoldenEye98
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I mean Sega had two sub 10M unit systems back to back....
awwr999999
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Microsoft created Xbox to undermine console gaming (PlayStation, in particular) and promote Windows gaming.
Microsoft's ultimate goal is for Windows to be able to play 100% of the world's video games.
Microsoft will gladly sacrifice Xbox as a game console to achieve their larger goal for Windows.
Microsoft's ultimate goal is for Windows to be able to play 100% of the world's video games.
Microsoft will gladly sacrifice Xbox as a game console to achieve their larger goal for Windows.
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ZehDon
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The jump from last gen to this gen has been minimal at best, with current consoles struggling with heavier PC titles since they released. The PS5 Pro is the most expensive console in Sony's history... and by and large the difference it provides over the PS5 is barely noticeable. We can see the power ceiling approaching, meaning consoles can't just crank up their specs to keep selling new generations. And even if they could, development has also reached a point where very few developers can actually use the hardware fully because it's prohibitively expensive. That's a universal problem no one has an answer to.
Microsoft is the first victim of consoles' creeping irrelevance, because they failed to justify their own existence frankly, but the clock is ticking for everyone. The industry just hasn't grown, new generations aren't buying in (kids are going mobile or PC), there's maybe one cost-effective generational power increase left, and the difference between the consoles are largely a rounding error. PlayStation 6 will land and it'll be basically a higher res version of the current generation. That'll already be a struggle to sell, since it'll also likely be much more expensive than the current generation, which is already crazy expensive. So, who's buying a PS7 if there's no cost-effective improvements left to justify its existence? That's the wall we're hitting - and beyond is a full market contraction as the console space shrinks. Given Microsoft and Sony's move towards multiplatform, they know it's coming and the only way to survive is to get off of bespoke consoles. Nintendo has survived thus far because they went handheld and had little competition in that form factor - but handheld PCs have arrived en masse and they're already exceeding what that machine can do. Switch 2 is about as powerful as a Steam Deck, and a Steam Deck 2 is still years off because there's been no real breakthrough to provide a generational spec jump. Nintendo will feel the pain of the market contraction because why buy a Switch 3 when it's just a Switch 2 with a bigger price tag?
Without some fancy new technology to enable it, I don't see another console generation beyond the PS6 / Nextbox generation. I see x84 PCs in various form factors as everyone tries and sells their games everywhere to everyone in order to provide the infinite growth investors demand. And whoever fails to produce it goes out of business.