Maxwell Jacob Friedman
leads to fear. Fear leads to xbox.
With what games though? This first time in console gaming a console isn't launching with a first party exclusive title
Xbox have really knocked it out the park with the Series S imo
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Ascend
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It has all the relevant tech to support games for next gen. The only significant difference is that the console will render at lower resolutions.
Captain Hero
The Spoiler Soldier
Great deal tbh ..
But I'm not that stupid to buy something because it has a cheap price .. that alone won't make me do it
But I'm not that stupid to buy something because it has a cheap price .. that alone won't make me do it
M1chl
Currently Gif and Meme Champion
I think when it comes to online gaming and GamePass games it could be attractive for those who mainly plays 3rd party games. Will see, but I sense some logic in this product, it's not OG XB1, that's for sure.
However that "leak" announcement was super weird.
ExpandKong
Banned
It's tempting but I'm worried I'd just end up double dipping to get a Series X later on.
The_Observer
Member
Imagine a game designed with the PS5 and XSX in mind only, targeting 1440p (or even 1080p) at 30fps. Now that won't happen because of the S. I don't think anyone would dare to release something for it under 1080p. They would be ridiculed by a lot of dense people who think resolution=graphics. Unfortunately this is how it is.
DonJorginho
Banned
Cyberpunk 2077 with a next gen upgrade
Next Gen upgrade Sports games
Next gen ubisoft ports
Control UE
And maybe COD BO CW if you want that
That's it lmao
T-Cake
Member
Thank goodness! I'd be taking my Xbox Series X back to the shop if it only did 1080p30.
jimbojim
Banned
For an ERP of £250/$299, The Xbox Series S offers a really great deal for people planning to upgrade this year.
Make what you will of the rumoured 4TFs it holds, but the Series S if the full leaked video is anything to go by, offers support for 120FPS at 1440p, 4K upscaling for games, 4K media playback, support for DirectX raytracing, and a custom NVME 512GB SSD.
That is a great deal for £250, they're obviously planning to make up losses with this by it being discless, but this means for many people, Next Gen is not so unaffordable on launch, I mean this will retail for the same price as you can get a PS4 Slim on Argos on it's own atm, so it to me anyway, screams of great pricing.
Now obviously Sony will have to respond, they love to undercut/rival competitors price wise so I can see them retailing the PS5 Digital Edition for around £300 which would offer them a bit more leeway with customers, as despite how beloved Sony are and the vast majority of people want to get a PS5 over an Xbox Series X, this Series S will appeal to almost every casual buyer and parent as the affordable way to entertain for many years to come.
Me personally? I will be getting this and a PS5 as this means I can experience Gamepass and all it has to offer for a very affordable price, whilst still getting my preferred choice down the line in the PS5 (when HZD II comes out will be when I pounce).
Depends. If just one of the PS5s is priced 100$ more, then no.
Trogdor1123
Gold Member
Not sure I agree ( or disagree). 512 gig HDD, means you probably get about 400-450 of hdd space which isn't that hot. That being said, it seems great for last generation games getting upgrades.
Shouldn't be seen as bad though. Looks really interesting and I would love to see the games.
Shouldn't be seen as bad though. Looks really interesting and I would love to see the games.
JimboJones
Member
Does it have the expansion slot for more storage?
The_Observer
Member
Even if the game looked like a CGI movie? Why is resolution that much important? Are you the kind of people I was talking about in my post? Which looks better? Minecraft in 4k or any other AAA game for let's say from the last 10 years in 720P?
VincentMatts
Member
I think they expect to sell some 1TB SSD memory cards.
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Jaybe
Member
No. Sony will continue to sell the PS4 and PS4 Pro or perhaps another iteration of them to win the budget 1080p consumer.
VectorVictor
Member
Pretty much this all over. Including here, to a lesser extent.
And it's great as an all-digital box, and I read on one of the sites that the Series S will have an expansion port to increase the SSD storage (not unlike what the Series X has been confirmed to have). So once Microsoft confirms the expansion capabilities, price, and the availability of that expansion, we'll see how feasible an upgrade to the SSD truly is. As it stands now...450GB really isn't a lot, but not a lot is needed early on in a new generation, right?
Plus, you can still use your USB hard drive for anything that is XBox One or earlier, so no need to clutter the SSD with anything non-Series X/S related.
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Ascend
Member
Not necessarily. There are a bunch of graphical details that can be reduced to still make it run fine on an S.
The Xbox One X is going to be a much larger problem than the Series S, simply because the former does not have an SSD or the velocity architecture.
Shmunter
Member
I don't think pro is going to continue. It's the enthusiast sku which will be replaced by PS5.
Trogdor1123
Gold Member
I believe you are correct, and given they will be around $150, why not just get the x?
Ascend
Member
It better. That amount of storage without being able to expand it would be atrocious.
T-Cake
Member
It's a psychological thing. Digital Foundry have ruined so many games for me because they point out differences between platform versions. And then when I play, I'm looking out for said differences instead of enjoying the game.
VincentMatts
Member
we'll see the price when they announce it. I heard 100$.
DeaDPo0L84
Member
The limited storage will be a problem. I'd have to upgrade to 2tb asap which adds $100-$200 to the price right off the bat.
Balducci30
Member
Not gonna lie I'm considering it - never cared about resolution or FPS. And don't need to have some large library of games on my console constantly- I usually just delete whatever game was on there I've already played and move on to the next. I could see those things being problems for like hardcore gamers - but people like me? Nah that sounds right.
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The_Observer
Member
I honestly wish that you will be right and this is what will happen. But I fear it won't...
Trogdor1123
Gold Member
That would be a great value actually. A generic 1tb drive costs 150 cdn here. I'd expect this to be more.
kriolo
Member
so now.. a PC gamer who has gamepass for just 299 can boy a next gen console... And now maybe the PS5 Digital buyer user is now thinking in buying the regular ps5 and the series S... But for the Xbox Series X buyer as me, maybe i'm switching for PS5 regular and Series S... In every situation microsoft has a new user.It is a great value proposition.
longdi
Banned
I sense fear at the house of Jim Ryan.
The most successful products start from a good price.
Series S library and infrastructure aint that bad either.
It will be big.
SF Kosmo
Banned
I think having a gimped sku they need to support is going to hold them back especially once we get out of the early part of the gen.
Basically devs are going to target S as the lowest common denominator, and then just scale up the res or framerate for X, because optimizing for X and scaling down is going to be problematic in a lot of cases, especially those that would look to push the next gen envelope.
The price is very attractive obviously but it's a potential albatross in the long run, and even more so if we get Pro models down the road.
Basically devs are going to target S as the lowest common denominator, and then just scale up the res or framerate for X, because optimizing for X and scaling down is going to be problematic in a lot of cases, especially those that would look to push the next gen envelope.
The price is very attractive obviously but it's a potential albatross in the long run, and even more so if we get Pro models down the road.
kriolo
Member
i'm not a tech guru or anything, but that's just saying the RTX 3070 is holding Back the RTX 3090.
kriolo
Member
yes, and they are targeting pc gamers with 1440p with 120 fps support
JimboJones
Member
I hope they make swapping to a "cold storage" usb HDD at least somewhat painless for people not willing to upgrade the nVME storage right away.
MilkLizard
Member
It looks like a nice device but the all digital is killing it for me. How am I supposed to get all my 360 games on there? I thought backwards compatibility is one the major advantages of XBOX?
Papacheeks
Banned
What big game is MS launching with again?
Their big App is Gamepass, and even that there's nothing so far that says buy me.
kriolo
Member
360 and xbox one games don't require a super fast external SSD, just plug an externa 1 TB HDD and go
RoboFu
One of the green rats
1440p 120 and ray tracing.
4 TFlops.
do you know how that 4 tf compares to a xbox series x? ... me neither.. TF do not scale the same across different architectures I mean the new marvel games runs very well on the xbox x and this is more powerful than that.
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MilkLizard
Member
I'm talking about my discs. I have hundreds of 360 games on DVD, how do I play them on this?
Bo_Hazem
Banned
For an ERP of £250/$299, The Xbox Series S offers a really great deal for people planning to upgrade this year.
Make what you will of the rumoured 4TFs it holds, but the Series S if the full leaked video is anything to go by, offers support for 120FPS at 1440p, 4K upscaling for games, 4K media playback, support for DirectX raytracing, and a custom NVME 512GB SSD.
That is a great deal for £250, they're obviously planning to make up losses with this by it being discless, but this means for many people, Next Gen is not so unaffordable on launch, I mean this will retail for the same price as you can get a PS4 Slim on Argos on it's own atm, so it to me anyway, screams of great pricing.
Now obviously Sony will have to respond, they love to undercut/rival competitors price wise so I can see them retailing the PS5 Digital Edition for around £300 which would offer them a bit more leeway with customers, as despite how beloved Sony are and the vast majority of people want to get a PS5 over an Xbox Series X, this Series S will appeal to almost every casual buyer and parent as the affordable way to entertain for many years to come.
Me personally? I will be getting this and a PS5 as this means I can experience Gamepass and all it has to offer for a very affordable price, whilst still getting my preferred choice down the line in the PS5 (when HZD II comes out will be when I pounce).
Can't wait to see games running on it.
A.Romero
Member
This is very good for their strategy, it will fly off the shelves.
It's going to be great for Gamepass (BC) and for Xcloud... However, I feel it could be tough on newer games. Hopefully their tools are good enough so it doesn't stop Xbox Next Gen games from being great.
If it sells a lot, third parties won't ignore it and it might impact the games quality for PS5 and PC as well.
It's going to be great for Gamepass (BC) and for Xcloud... However, I feel it could be tough on newer games. Hopefully their tools are good enough so it doesn't stop Xbox Next Gen games from being great.
If it sells a lot, third parties won't ignore it and it might impact the games quality for PS5 and PC as well.
Calverz
Member
Yea it is really really bad. I literally alluded to sony fans reacting in a way if something was announced by xbox and got a ban for it. I knew i was done with that site. The censorship has gotten absolutely ridiculous over there.
I also got hounded by a dude with a rainbow avatar all because i said i really liked watching dr disrespect and told him i can enjoy whatever i wanted to. He then hounded me demanding i answer for docs sordid past. It was ridiculous. And of course i reported it and nothing happened. I didnt even bait the guy.
EverydayBeast
ChatGPT 0.001
Building a console at that price range is in the best interest of casuals
VincentMatts
Member
Well i mean, if they want them to sell, selling a 1TB close to 150$ canadian no tax isnt gonna cut it. Its half the price of the console.
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