Saving this page for the future guaranteed thread. The system already requires Kinect for nothing thanks to the 180s, so if Microsoft lags behind the competition, they will do the smart business decision. They don't care how many gamers wish it otherwise
looks like I'll be saving your post instead for the same reasons...
you gotta be realistic here and understand this:
no matter how many dollars ms could skim from the price by not bundling kinect,
ALWAYS there will be the much bigger enticement kinect use for advertising purposes, for all sides of the spectrum.
so, I say that they will prefer to take a 50$ hit (IF they ever need to), than letting their nextgen advertisement scheme go to waste.
so you think about that
personally, I hate kinect with a passion, but being able to just keep it disconnected unless I want differently is good enough for me. should be for you too.
and by the way, 3 years down the road, where the xbone will have reached maybe the pricepoint you aim for, for sure it will look much less of a nextgen device than it looks now..
like the 360, the best period of the machine will be 0-3yrs, exactly the period you are planning to skip..
edit:
Bring on the gifs guys, this needs something more...
LOL