Xbox One- what would it take to get YOU to buy one ?

Rare putting out great quality software again. As it is, I'll eventually buy one down the road when the generation is coming to an end.
 
PCXB1FTW said:
I didnt say douchbag or fanboy, those were directed at me. I did say warrior, because theres some crazy warrior statements going on here, like it would be better for everyone if sony had no competition. That makes me a bad person it seems.

Its ok, I've ignored the people who yelled at me for saying my issue with RROD wasnt so bad, and that I don't want to live in an all sony world. So as I won't have people responding not to what I said, but to however they twist it, I'll be much more calm.
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I do hope you ran away from (I mean ignored) RexNovis as he just ripped you a new asshole. But that's ok since everyone else can still read it.
 
Microsoft lost their way simply put.

They essentially became Nintendo without Nintendos vast first party offering. You buy one for the exclusives and only the exclusives. Now you're probably thinking "hasn't this always been the case"? Well not really. Even during a dominating gen like the PS2 era, MS made a very compelling console that provided its consumers with tech leading games, superior multiplats, a wealth of Western exclusives, great first party and industry leading online play.

Fast forward today and PS4 (and PS3) leads the tech race, onlines are a wash minus PS+ offerings, they have all the western support the competition has and their first party stable has increased in quality substantially.

For me personally, buying a second console that's weaker than my first is very off putting, especially when the price is the same as the superior console. It would have to have a wealth of content to make me consider it. Beyond that I'm at a point where I can easily afford one but I would rather spend the money on a lot of other things (sound equipment, golf clubs, etc). And then there are numerous little grievances with the console that add up and further push me away from buying one like the shitty UI, controllers that need batteries, another online paywall, lack of any friends that own one making the community bare and desolate.

Do I still hold a grudge over 2013s screwjob? I would like to say "yes" for principles sake but I find myself more bitter with MS's treatment to its consumers post 2008 when they became complacent. MS had a real place in this industry back in 2001 but now I wonder what that is.
 
They're kind of getting there to me. In the past I was set to get a PS4 no matter what to be My Destiny machine...and then the Beta happened and defleated all My hype.

Right now, I'm just 50% there of getting it. If Quantum Break gets a release date for early 2015 (something like March) than I can see myself getting one this september. But Halo MCC is what is really drawing me towards the Xbox One.
 
JRPG, it was the reason why I got a 360 last generation.

Every genres on the X1 have similar counterpart of that genre on other platforms.
If I want to play Forza, I can play GT, or NFS.
If I want to play Halo, I can play KZ, or BF.
If I want to play sports, I can go outside, or watch TV.

And what makes matter worse is that if you are a PC gamer, XB brand will always be useless since XB will offer the similar genres that you can play on the PC but with better graphic instead.
But PS...well, let's just say that JRPG are very rare on PC.
 
Lion Heart said:
Microsoft lost their way simply put.

They essentially became Nintendo without Nintendos vast first party offering. You buy one for the exclusives and only the exclusives. Now you're probably thinking "hasn't this always been the case"? Well not really. Even during a dominating gen like the PS2 era, MS made a very compelling console that provided its consumers with tech leading games, superior multiplats, a wealth of Western exclusives, great first party and industry leading online play.

Fast forward today and PS4 (and PS3) leads the tech race, onlines are a wash minus PS+ offerings, they have all the western support the competition has and their first party stable has increased in quality substantially.

For me personally, buying a second console that's weaker than my first is very off putting, especially when the price is the same as the superior console. It would have to have a wealth of content to make me consider it. Beyond that I'm at a point where I can easily afford one but I would rather spend the money on a lot of other things (sound equipment, golf clubs, etc). And then there are numerous little grievances with the console that add up and further push me away from buying one like the shitty UI, controllers that need batteries, another online paywall, lack of any friends that own one making the community bare and desolate.

Do I still hold a grudge over 2013s screwjob? I would like to say "yes" for principles sake but I find myself more bitter with MS's treatment to its consumers post 2008 when they became complacent. MS had a real place in this industry back in 2001 but now I wonder what that is.
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Very good post.
 
I'd need some interesting non-shooter or sports exclusives. Quantum Break looks like it might be that, but it's still not enough to splurge $600 on the console.
 
They had me at day one. When the slim model happens, I'll probably move this system into the movie room and purchase another one.
 
As a longtime Sony guy, I ended up buying a 360 for Gears. It would take a massive exclusive IP to make me buy a One. So far I haven't seen anything mindblowing enough to push me in that direction. And I say 'mindblowing' cause thats what Gears was to me. The graphics, the atmosphere, the gameplay. I wanted to own it. So far nothing shown on the Xbox One has swayed me.
 
My wife convinced me to go to the mail with her today. As such, I visited my local Microsoft Store today.

I cannot help but feel that the scene I witnessed in the Microsoft retail store was representative of the tough time they are having right now trying to convince the public they are "cool."

2 PM on a Sunday afternoon. Myself and 1 other potential customer. No less than 8 Microsoft store employees. All but 2 of those 8 asked me if they could help me and if there was anything I needed (which I totally get by the way, that is just them doing their jobs). I also had 2 of them tell me the current specials for that week. One was some purchase a computer over $500 and get $150 towards Office or some shit, the other was trade in any XBox 360 and get $100 towards the purchase of an XBox One. When I expressed zero interest in the One offer (I own a launch model) they just accepted it and moved on.

Mind you the Apple store is also at the mall. Walk in the place is packed. No less than 20 potential customers, probably closer to 40. Not a single employee or genius even had the time to ask me if I needed something until I got all the way towards the back, and they asked me more just to check real quick then they had to.

Really was a stark difference, and I know MS is not really made for a retail environment at all, but it was interesting to experience first hand nonetheless.
 
I'm getting one this fall simply because there are more interesting things to play on it vs last fall.

It's funny seeing responses in threads like these because people's answers are always changing.

Last holiday, when people asked "What would it take for you to pull the trigger on the XO?", most of the responses were easy - Kinectless SKU. Now that the XO no longer has a Kinect with it, those same people are now saying "Well um......$299". I get the feeling that every time something that makes the system more appealing surfaces, people on here will just add another excuse to not buy it. (For example- Fall 2015- Xbox One is $299 with 2 free games. Some GAFers will be like "Hmmm...tempting, but I'll wait until it's $199" or something like that.
 
It's really hard to have a conversation with someone who , out of all the choices and possibilities, consciously picked his platform choices for a username in good faith.
 
Lion Heart said:
Microsoft lost their way simply put.

They essentially became Nintendo without Nintendos vast first party offering. You buy one for the exclusives and only the exclusives. Now you're probably thinking "hasn't this always been the case"? Well not really. Even during a dominating gen like the PS2 era, MS made a very compelling console that provided its consumers with tech leading games, superior multiplats, a wealth of Western exclusives, great first party and industry leading online play.

Fast forward today and PS4 (and PS3) leads the tech race, onlines are a wash minus PS+ offerings, they have all the western support the competition has and their first party stable has increased in quality substantially.

For me personally, buying a second console that's weaker than my first is very off putting, especially when the price is the same as the superior console. It would have to have a wealth of content to make me consider it. Beyond that I'm at a point where I can easily afford one but I would rather spend the money on a lot of other things (sound equipment, golf clubs, etc). And then there are numerous little grievances with the console that add up and further push me away from buying one like the shitty UI, controllers that need batteries, another online paywall, lack of any friends that own one making the community bare and desolate.

Do I still hold a grudge over 2013s screwjob? I would like to say "yes" for principles sake but I find myself more bitter with MS's treatment to its consumers post 2008 when they became complacent. MS had a real place in this industry back in 2001 but now I wonder what that is.
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This is a really excellent post. People really fail to understand that the gaming audience is getting older. This means there are other hobbies and obligations that the majority of today's gamers want to spend their hard earned cash on. Combine that with the dual paywalls and the vast majority of titles being multiplatform and its really hard for many to legitimize in their own minds the purchase of a weaker system. I think this post sums up how many felt going into this gen. Well said.
 
BM24 said:
I'm getting one this fall simply because there are more interesting things to play on it vs last fall.

It's funny seeing responses in threads like these because people's answers are always changing.

Last holiday, when people asked "What would it take for you to pull the trigger on the XO?", most of the responses were easy - Kinectless SKU. Now that the XO no longer has a Kinect with it, those same people are now saying "Well um......$299". I get the feeling that every time something that makes the system more appealing surfaces, people on here will just add another excuse to not buy it. (For example- Fall 2015- Xbox One is $299 with 2 free games. Some GAFers will be like "Hmmm...tempting, but I'll wait until it's $199" or something like that.
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I was the first one to admit my standards changed. As a Xbox fan (Owned Xbox and 360, PS4 was my first Sony console) I had a hard time accepting the switch at first. I told myself if MS could get their act together and dropped the price I'd come back.

But life goes on, gaming is probably 5-10% of my life. One console is plenty for me at this juncture and I'm just not missing the MS exclusives like I thought I was. All my friends moved over to PS4 as well, so there are NO friends to go back to either.

So yah, it changed. It's kind of a bummer, but that's just how it is. Nothing against the X1, it's made some great strides and I applaud it, it's just not for me right now.
 
249 EURO with Kinect + Sunset Overdrive
Varied exclusive games
Japanese games

It's lacking everything 360 had during its great years. 360 was the console to get with those Japanese games, RPG's, Gears, Mass Effect, Bioshock.
 
AJanitor said:
I was the first one to admit my standards changed. As a Xbox fan (Owned Xbox and 360, PS4 was my first Sony console) I had a hard time accepting the switch at first. I told myself if MS could get their act together and dropped the price I'd come back.

But life goes on, gaming is probably 5-10% of my life. One console is plenty for me at this juncture and I'm just not missing the MS exclusives like I thought I was. All my friends moved over to PS4 as well, so there are NO friends to go back to either.

So yah, it changed. It's kind of a bummer, but that's just how it is. Nothing against the X1, it's made some great strides and I applaud it, it's just not for me right now.
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Nothing wrong with that at all. I'm just starting to wonder why some people bother posting in threads like this because every few months, they add another thing on the list that the XO needs to do before they buy it. The XO could be $100 bundled with Half-Life 3 and Shenmue III as system exclusives, and I bet you'll still see someone saying "Ehhh, they almost have my money. Once it's $50, I'm in."
 
The Xbox needs a much more diverse catalog to get me to buy it. I want Banjo Kazooie Threeie, Lost Oddessy 2, some unique adventure games, an original IP that didn't involve shooting would help.

Sony's first party isn't exactly grandly deserve right now but they are getting a lot of games exclusive by default for PS3 right now and that trend is already continuing somewhat on PS4 with series like Tales of, and other RPG's like AR no Surge, among others.

Right now the only games I want to play on the X1 are Sunset Overdrive and Master Chief Collection (really just for Halo 1 online multiplayer) and I'm sure we'll get a gears of war 4 in a couple of years but right now there is nothing I want for the system thats been announced for next year, I was dumbfounded at E3 that literally everything that was leaked on here was all that they had (considering that leaked happened in freaking January) I thought they would have had a lot more, hell the biggest announcement was freaking Crackdown 3 and despite that we already knew about it... its Crackdown... the first game was mediocre at best and only sold well because of the Halo 3 beta (Halo was on top of the world at this point pre CoD4) and the second I only remember seeing some mixed opinions on but most people I know said it was awful. Why was this the 'big game' to announce for them, its just another third person shooter and not one that is regarded anywhere near as high esteem as Halo or Gears, it would have been one thing if they had actually shown something really cool for it but it was just another CG trailer... gotta say I'm pretty meh to stuff like that now.
 
While I already have one and bought it at launch. I honestly do not feel like it was worth the purchase.

I still feel like there is nothing worth playing on it.

Dead Rising 3 was a massive disappointment due to it's poor resolution, frame rate and poor control responsiveness (excited about the PC version though). Killer Instinct is good but not but not worth buying the system for. And every other game either does not interest me or is better on PS4/PC.

However I do feel that once Quantum Break is out I will be a very happy Xbox One owner.

Also looking forward to D4 and Fable Legends. Sunset Overdrive looks interesting, but I'm not sold on it yet.

Either way I was always going to get one eventually and I like new systems, so I jumped in right away. But I can't recommend the system to others right now.

Have to say though, the recent changes Microsoft have made to Xbox Live Gold have made me feel MUCH happier about being an Xbox owner. I salute their efforts to win gamers back after the horrible policies of the last few years.

If they really want o make me an Xbox One evangelist though, they need to make a new Perfect Dark!!! :)
 
I purchased a 360 for JRPGs. I will purchase an Xbone if it receives enough exclusive JRPGs.

I'm not terribly concerned about the #teevee direction that MS has taken the system or the power difference since playing 3rd party on the console was never even a consideration for me. Xbone and Wii U will always be valued solely on first and second party content for me. I really hope that Xbone becomes a good value offering for people with my mindset eventually.
 
BM24 said:
I'm getting one this fall simply because there are more interesting things to play on it vs last fall.

It's funny seeing responses in threads like these because people's answers are always changing.

Last holiday, when people asked "What would it take for you to pull the trigger on the XO?", most of the responses were easy - Kinectless SKU. Now that the XO no longer has a Kinect with it, those same people are now saying "Well um......$299". I get the feeling that every time something that makes the system more appealing surfaces, people on here will just add another excuse to not buy it. (For example- Fall 2015- Xbox One is $299 with 2 free games. Some GAFers will be like "Hmmm...tempting, but I'll wait until it's $199" or something like that.
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If a person is generally not interested in getting something, their answers will always consist of excuses. On a forum, you're just surfing the threads and looking for things to talk about. Not a bad thing; it's just like when friends ask if I'm going to make it to some event (dinner/hangout/whatever) that I'm not really wanting to go to and I say, "I might make it." That almost always means, "no, i'm not going to be there." I think that's basically why you see the answers change.

For me, being completely transparent - see my earlier post history when I freaked out this morning because of the ongoing MS jokes in every X1 thread - I want to see the xbox one do well. I've been partial to the halo series and appreciate many of the other first party offerings. But the $500 dollar price tag was definitely off-putting. And while I have hopes that Halo 5 will be good, there wasn't much chance in me being an early adopter just to be disappointed a la Halo 4. But the MCC really, I mean really peaked my interest. I know what I'm getting in that purchase. 3 past halo games that I've really enjoyed and the opportunity to play all of the them through one easy menu with friends. That's freaking baller. Then, during E3 this year, Ori and the Blind Forest really intrigued me as well as the hope that the next Gears of War and Crackdown, as well as Halo 5 turn out to be really good. And even if they arent, there's actually quite a few other exclusive games that I would be willing to try. I'm cautiously optimistic in the X1's future from here on out. That's not to say it will catch up to the PS4 in sales, bu I think it will definitely see growth in the number of buyers and be competent enough in sales.
 
Sub $300 and fully support my fanatec wheel, shiter and pedal set. Kills me neither console supports my rig. Other than that, probably nothing, short of some yet announced game I just can't live without.
 
godelsmetric said:
Right, but the point is that the significant library overlap with PS4 makes the power difference between PS4 and Xbone significant where the WiiU's hardware shortcomings are not because there is no significant library overlap.
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I won't disagree about the power differential being there but if someone's comparing/buying these consoles mainly for exclusives then the multiplatform stuff is probably less of a factor.

Even if people sought out the Digital Foundry articles, a bunch of them have shown various instances where the One versions are not vast downgrades by any stretch (Strider, Wolfenstein, Child of Light, Thief, Trials Fusion, Outlast, Murdered Soul Suspect) although yes a lot of these are also cross gen.
 
Yagharek said:
No agenda here chief, I just dont appreciate people dismissing out of hand my experiences as if they didnt happen or arent that common. Blanket out-of-hand denials (in the past by MS) are one of the reasons why I'm not getting one.
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I think you have me mistaken with someone else. I didn't dismiss your "out of hand experience". You claimed Kinect was broken. It's not. You claimed cars in forza 5 float in the air. I've never seen that. The big shit list of things you linked, I didn't deny any of that.

You freely admited you saw these at a friend's house, and dont actually own the system.

Seriously man. Take a deep breath and stop trying to twist what people are saying.

I had 6 Xbox 360s before the end last gen. Shit happens. I'm just saying my current experience has been good. Glad your having a great time with your ps4. The PS4 currently has no value for me.

It's okay to disagree, but stop trying to call me out for things that didn't happen anywhere but in your head.
 
Rare exclusives such as Banjo Threeie is the only way I would buy one....atm I'm leaning towards ps4 due to TLOU, Uncharted, Bloodborne, Order and better multiplat graphics
 
All it took was release day.
 
ethomaz said:
Is that not weird?

I mean except for two or three titles the JRPG are mostly on PS3.
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At the beginning of the Ps360 generation there where quite a few great 360 exclusive JRPGs. Support for them died off later in the console generation but if they see a resurgence at any point in this gen I'm willing to get on board.
 
leobebes said:
Is a minute showing of a graphical advantage all it takes to reach a consensus of superiority among gamers around here?

So far, it seems as if Sony spent their resources on a small graphical advantage while neglecting the functionality of its system. Other than the small up-tick on real world performance--when it comes to resolution--Xbox One seems to be the "superior" system as an interactive entertainment device.

In my opinion the opinion that the PS4 is superior while the Xbox One is inferior in feature set is as shallow as a rain puddle in the San Joaquin Valley.
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The PS4 has pretty much everything the XB1 has... and has a better system on top of it. I have no way to connect it with a live TV service... because I don't watch TV.

What else is there that the XB1 actually does better than the PS4?
 
Exclusive, must have games really. It'll get some eventually, and that's when I'll buy it.

Simple really.

Edit: not like the PS4 is drowning in exclusives, but it also has superior multi plats to buy up.
 
I probably will end up getting one at the veeeeeeeeery end of the generation. I still have yet to pick up a 360, even though I plan on it. Xbox is just the least important platform to me, even though it does have good games.

(They just rarely stay exclusive for very long)
 
W.S. said:
You don't really know how many platform exclusives the One will ultimately build over time yet. Could be less than the Wii U's or it could be more.
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The issue for me is quality not quantity. I think Nintendo has the best development studio(s) in the history of gaming and usually love their first party titles so the infrequent arrivals don't bother me. Galaxy 2 by itself justified the $100 I spent on a used Wii because that experience was so significant to me.

Not everyone feels that way, which is totally cool, and even Nintendo fans who game frequently would be better served with a PS4 or X1 as their only console. Wii U is the perfect supplement for those inclined who also don't mind paying for 2+ systems.
 
Norns said:
I think you have me mistaken with someone else. I didn't dismiss your "out of hand experience". You claimed Kinect was broken. It's not. You claimed cars in forza 5 float in the air. I've never seen that. The big shit list of things you linked, I didn't deny any of that.

You freely admited you saw these at a friend's house, and dont actually own the system.

Seriously man. Take a deep breath and stop trying to twist what people are saying.

I had 6 Xbox 360s before the end last gen. Shit happens. I'm just saying my current experience has been good. Glad your having a great time with your ps4. The PS4 currently has no value for me.

It's okay to disagree, but stop trying to call me out for things that didn't happen anywhere but in your head.
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You just dismissed again all those things in your first paragraph of this post. Also, please state where I said I have a PS4. You are projecting.
 
Oh I'll buy one eventually. That EA subscription thing is a great deal and that will help. I'm just waiting for a great deal.

But on the other hand, the PS4 will probably remain the primary platform, so sadly MS may have already lost. I'll buy multi-plats on the PS4 and exclusives on the Xbone. It was reverse last gen.
 
PCXB1FTW said:
My first choice at name "IcouldabeenOccam'sdad" was taken... HA! I kill me...

Nah the name is in reference to the fact that its nice to be both a PC and a Console gamer, and such things shouldn't divide us.

But yea, I'm Primarily a PC gamer, and I also play xbox games. Some of the best gaming Memories I have are with games played with my friends on xbox, either system linked or on live. Some of them are right up there with my most fond Memories from EQ and Neocron, my two favorite PC games I play to this day.

But yea, I'm a warrior because I disagree that people should wish for sony to have no competition, and I think the xbone name is juvenile and pretty much marks people who use it as not capable of rational conversation about MS or the Xbox.
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Brave words
 
Norns said:
Facepalm
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That's how you want to discuss it, fine. But it doesnt change the fact that kinect does not work with an Australian accent very well at all. A ten percent success rate at best.

With Australian internet, downloading 40GB or waiting four hours + to reinstall a game that shouldnt need to be reinstalled in the first place before you can play it from the disc is not acceptable nor is it practical.
 
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