Xbox One- what would it take to get YOU to buy one ?

- 60 FPS across the board, I don't care about resolution
- Controller and Arcade stick compatibility with 360
- Cross-buy with PC
- Sequels to series they inexplicably killed on the first Xbox: Links 2015, MechWarrior, Crimson Skies, Oddworld, Project Gotham. I don't understand why a company the size of Microsoft doesn't finance the shit out of all good 2-10 people studios in existence for a two year exclusivity or whatever. They could lock down the entire "arcade" market for less money than they pay for the development of a single Gears of War game.
- 60 FPS. I won't buy anything with less this time around
 
199$ bundle, slim design, internal psu, more intuitive UI, ps+ equivalent in terms of value and games, more interesting first parties, because I wont buy multi games for it. Huge task for MFST to get me even interested.
 
My best friend getting one for Halo 5.
If he doesn't, i'm not getting an Xbone. It's not as much the money, as it's the space.
That Xbone, that power brick, them extra Controllers, that 2nd ecoyststem, too.

also, Sony was pretty clever requiring paid PS+ for Multiplayer games.
I'm not too excited about paying for 2 Console subscription Services. :/
and an Xbox without Gold is shit.
 
Release great exclusives and MS have to make their online service free since they're playing catch up and have to attract ps4 owners to buy an X1 as their second console.
 
Being as quite a few of the many seem to be 360 owners who don't want to get an Xbox one, it seems your assumption is flawed.
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yup - i spent the vast majority of last gen playing on the X360, but so far there's nothing compelling me to get an XOne. Infact, this is shaping up to be the first machine i'll skip having bought day one for everything since the megadrive.

All it will take is one good title of course, but the gears - halo - forza - gears - halo - forza thing just lost it's charm after a while. So what i'm left with is a seemingly less powerful version of the PS4 with the vast majority of the games being the same. I guess we need to see what the XOne (Japan) exclusives end up being - but at the moment, it's a machine in the same price bracket with the same games coming out in September that people can play right now on the PS4 (with a few exceptions)

Other than a great title to drive it, it would have to get a good old fashioned price slashing to the 29800 yen or so mark at this point.

(i have no idea who i am kidding, i KNOW i will buy one day one regardless, but hey.... )
 
What made me pre-order the Xbox One was the fact that I got some games with it, Forza 5 and Fifa 15. A factor that also contributed is the Games with gold releases, I want to build my library and hop on that train from the beginning.
 
Nothing really at this point. The only exclusive I'm interested in is Quantum Break, and with all the Xbox One exclusives heading to PC and Remedy's history of bringing games to PC I have very little doubt I'll be able to play it on my PC a year or two after it comes out.
 
With Halo 5 its a near dead cert I'll be getting the console during that game's release...I wonder if they'll bring a special edition version of the console just to mark the release of that game..
 
Lupin3 said:
Gears of War 4! Gears 3 is the only reason I still have my 360 up and running.
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Same, horde mode never gets old :)

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Deputy Moonman said:
MS never forced anything down anyone's throats. That's the most hilarious part. They revealed their plan for the future and not many people liked it, so they changed. Shocker! You keep hanging on to that contrived anger, though.
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Consumers have a right to spend their money how they wish so why spend it on a company they do not trust?
 
Last gen i had a X360 & PS3 also a Wii, but i mostly played on the X360 more people i knew had one & i just preferred it over the PS3 & any multiplat game i got for the X360, i also had Kinect which was a big disappointment.

When i was looking at getting a new console in feb/march this year (i already had a WiiU) i had no interest in Kinect 2.0, the X1 cost more, better value with PSN+, more powerful & also the PS4 just seemed a better package overall, the constant reversals by MS put me off as did the concentration on the media/tv stuff the X1 was offering, it is a very USA-centric console, watching football with a stat table & twitter interaction all at once o.O not interested.

In previous gens i have had the the two main consoles but this time i didn't want to have to do it, the only game i am :( to miss out on is the Forza series, i stopped enjoying GT after GT2, but as Forza Horizion 2 is out on the X360 i will get it for that, there also seems to be a lot of extra costs on X1 games with in game purchases.

I really think MS has lost me this gen, i cannot see anything on the horizon that will encourage me to get a X1, they say that first impressions count a lot & this is what's happened with the X1.
 
Jack cw said:
199$ bundle, slim design, internal psu, more intuitive UI, ps+ equivalent in terms of value and games, more interesting first parties, because I wont buy multi games for it. Huge task for MFST to get me even interested.
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Pretty much this.

The big hitter there for me though is some seriously good exclusives. As like you said, I too won't be getting multiplats on the Xbone if I had it. So a solid exclusive showing is what I need from Microsoft.

Funny thing is it was the other way round for me last gen. I had multiplats and exclusive games on the 360, then bought a ps3 later down the line for cheap and just bought all the exclusive games out for that system.
 
neojubei said:
Consumers have a right to spend their money how they wish so why spend it on a company they do not trust?
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I agree that consumers have a right to spend money how they wish and I'm not calling people out for getting a PS4. It's the lack of trust mindset and pretend anger toward MS that humors me. Sony is no more trustworthy now than they were back during the PS3 days, but people seem to think that there is a big difference between the two companies (MS and Sony). If you can "trust" Sony now, I'd argue you can trust "MS" now, too. There is no difference. Big companies. How do they work? Both Sony and MS are both looking out for number one - themselves - and trying to make money. It's a business.

I'd even go as far as saying that you can probably trust MS more so right now since they've had to deal with the initial backlash from fans. Sony is in a position to do anything they want. They've already sold a ton of consoles. It's like food poisoning. The last fast food restaurant that someone is likely to get E. coli food poisoning at is a fast food restaurant that just got into trouble for an E. coli food poisoning incident. You can be sure all the restaurants in that chain are going to be cooking their food thoroughly as a result. Maybe that's a bad or dumb example, but I think there is truth behind it.
 
A lot of games and one or two more price drops. I'll get it very late in the gen as I own a PC/PS4 so until the exclusives completely stack up, I don't see a reason to get one.
 
what would it take from microsoft, for me to buy (another) xbox?

a good online POKER game!

I want to get an xbone for my mother, but all she plays is that poker game on 360.
she wont bother changing unless...... there is a new poker game in the new console.

hear me ms?
 
Gears of war if it's actually a good game so I can play coop w/ my dad.. that last one doesn't have me super confident it'll be a good game though. Quantum break, sunset overdrive perhaps... new IP is what interests me basically.
 
For them to actually have exclusives that won't make their way to PC sometime down the line... I already have a PC and PS4 so it would take a lot of exclusive games to make me buy one.
 
scoobs said:
Gears of war if it's actually a good game so I can play coop w/ my dad.. that last one doesn't have me super confident it'll be a good game though.
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People Can Fly is out of the picture and Rod Fergusson is back! Makes it impossible to be as bad as Judgment. Gears 4 will (must) be something extra!
 
Deputy Moonman said:
I agree that consumers have a right to spend money how they wish and I'm not calling people out for getting a PS4. It's the lack of trust mindset and pretend anger toward MS that humors me. Sony is no more trustworthy now than they were back during the PS3 days, but people seem to think that there is a big difference between the two companies (MS and Sony). If you can "trust" Sony now, I'd argue you can trust "MS" now, too. There is no difference. Big companies. How do they work? Both Sony and MS are both looking out for number one - themselves - and trying to make money. It's a business.
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Public perception is a marvellous and powerful yet fickle thing. Microsoft committed borderline PR suicide and Sony rode their carcass all the way to the bank. But "trust"? Hell no. Companies bear the psychological profile of a sociopath. Putting "trust" in any of them will only lead to bad things.
 
I just bought one. Sits nicely next to my PS4 and Wii U.

I needed a proper racing game and Forza is the shit!! Bought Ryse as well, probably the best graphical showpieces of next gen.
 
Deputy Moonman said:
I agree that consumers have a right to spend money how they wish and I'm not calling people out for getting a PS4. It's the lack of trust mindset and pretend anger toward MS that humors me. Sony is no more trustworthy now than they were back during the PS3 days, but people seem to think that there is a big difference between the two companies (MS and Sony). If you can "trust" Sony now, I'd argue you can trust "MS" now, too. There is no difference. Big companies. How do they work? Both Sony and MS are both looking out for number one - themselves - and trying to make money. It's a business.

I'd even go as far as saying that you can probably trust MS more so right now since they've had to deal with the initial backlash from fans. Sony is in a position to do anything they want. They've already sold a ton of consoles. It's like food poisoning. The last fast food restaurant that someone is likely to get E. coli food poisoning at is a fast food restaurant that just got into trouble for an E. coli food poisoning incident. You can be sure all the restaurants in that chain are going to be cooking their food thoroughly as a result. Maybe that's a bad or dumb example, but I think there is truth behind it.
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Rather than use so many words, you should just fall back on the shorthand:

Sony too!(tm)
 
AyaisMUsikWhore said:
Let's be real. Everyone has their personal biases even while they own all. Doing the whole, "I'm not bias because I own everything" preaching isn't saying anything. Personal bias on everything exist, especially in game titles.

I hate this expression that someone is being less foolish or more mature because they own everything and any one who owns one over the other is being daft or immature. It's like great, good for you, that doesn't mean because I don't find this system to appeal to me means I'm being immature if I have reasons that you may disagree with with why I like one over the other. I didn't know it was wrong to not like something and must be kombaya for everything.

It's just an easy way to completely dismiss anyone's real concerns or dislike for something. It's becoming real stale now.
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Yeah pretty much.
 
It would be non gaming features. Like an official plex client with support for lossless audio (dtshdma/dolby truehd) and things like ALAC or FLAC support for audio.
 
I'm buying one for Sunset Overdrive and the Master Chief Collection, but beyond that, I'm uncertain of any games that would interest me. Maybe Scalebound.

However, those two games should hold me over for quite some time, so it's worth the price of entry in my eyes.
 
A miracle.


Or them making (loss-leading) exclusives that show they are genuinely motivated to move the medium forward into interesting new areas.

Which is less likely than the aforementioned miracle.

I really liked my 360, but it became abundantly clear that MS is just in it for the money, not for any artistic merit. I care too much for my hobby to see them become successful.
 
At this point, not really anything. Had a 360 as my main console last gen, but after the disastrous unveiling of the xbone and the subsequent E3, the PS4 started to seem like a much more attractive choice. And paired with a Vita and PS Plus, which I picked up last summer, it became a no-brainer for me. The final nail in the coffin was my closer friends moving over to the PS4.

Not to mention, I was also pretty jaded with the 360's lineup later on in its life. Whereas the PS3 was getting support right through 2013, first party support on the 360 seemed pretty barren from 2010 onwards (besides the halo/gears/forza factory churn).
 
I was convinced earlier this year I was going to buy one after E3 and sell my Wii U but Nintendo came with the goods and Microsoft....didn't.

I'm not going to buy a system on the promise of one Platinum game again, much that they are my favorite developers. Everything else is on PC, which I'm finally building, or is likely to have a better multi-platform sequel with the next few years.

I'll probably pick one up in a few years time to play the exclusives I've missed, but honestly I'm in no rush anymore.
 
I bought a launch day system and haven't looked back. All it took for me was knowing that I enjoyed my time with the 360 and even though that system started off in rough waters too, MS righted the ship and turned i into the best system last gen in my opinion.

Public(Internet) perception of the XB1 and MS is definitely skewed one way though. A product of poor messaging and ideas that were too premature have really put the XB1 up against it. Right now MS has really worked hard on fixing everything they can and I commend them for that...It's just too bad they didn't cultivate the systems hardware a bit longer...that would have fixed most issues over the long run...


In the end, I hope it does at least well enough to see another generation...All of those original ideas for the system will be "Old Hat" by then.
 
If they somehow worked it out to get TitanFall 2 to be exclusive again that would get me really close, but truth be told the Xbox steep climb and Nintendo's deep cache of exclusive titles featuring beloved characters from my youth makes it far more likely I'll get a Wii U versus considering an XBone.
 
I can't imagine it ever happening. I'm not really in the market for a second console and if I was I would go PS4. Xbone would need to be like 250$ or less and have at least ten games that I really want. Admittedly, new games from Kamiya and Swery are a good start but I just don't see enough coming down the pipeline for me.
 
Deputy Moonman said:
I agree that consumers have a right to spend money how they wish and I'm not calling people out for getting a PS4. It's the lack of trust mindset and pretend anger toward MS that humors me. Sony is no more trustworthy now than they were back during the PS3 days, but people seem to think that there is a big difference between the two companies (MS and Sony). If you can "trust" Sony now, I'd argue you can trust "MS" now, too. There is no difference. Big companies. How do they work? Both Sony and MS are both looking out for number one - themselves - and trying to make money. It's a business.

I'd even go as far as saying that you can probably trust MS more so right now since they've had to deal with the initial backlash from fans. Sony is in a position to do anything they want. They've already sold a ton of consoles. It's like food poisoning. The last fast food restaurant that someone is likely to get E. coli food poisoning at is a fast food restaurant that just got into trouble for an E. coli food poisoning incident. You can be sure all the restaurants in that chain are going to be cooking their food thoroughly as a result. Maybe that's a bad or dumb example, but I think there is truth behind it.
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Yeah but that's not how market perception works unfortunately. The initial general market perception that formed up to and then shortly after launch for Sony/MS was essentially:

  • Sony
  • Focused on games and in particular games for "the gamers"
  • Better console (due to the whole confusion on specs for XB1) for playing games
  • Better versions of games (due to CoD:G, AC4 and BF4 primarily early on)
  • Better controller than PS3
  • Improved online
  • Better price
  • No extra stuff in the box I might not want (good job they ditched the camera ahead of launch)
  • Supported PS3 right to the end
  • Summary : trustworthy, learnt from their mistakes and the better choice

  • MS
  • Split focus between games and media - heck they may even be more interested in media
  • Inferior console (due to the whole confusion on specs for XB1) for playing games
  • Better versions of games (due to CoD:G, AC4 and BF4 primarily early on)
  • New controller but not clear if better (not MS fault but Sony was always going to seem more positive because they improved on what was seen as a negative)
  • Same online but concerns over DRM/Policies and all that NSA stuff (mostly poor communication on MS part combined with bad luck due to proximity to all the general privacy concerns going around but there you go : MS had the bad luck to have what people thought was an "always on" camera in their house at the worst possible time for such a concept to be considered)
  • Worse price
  • Extra stuff in the box I might not want (Kinect and arguably HDMI in)
  • Weak 360 support (core games) after strong start
  • Summary : not sure I trust them, seem to be making same mistakes Sony did last time and probably worse choice

BTW to avoid confusion I believe that's roughly how the market saw it at the time its not my own personal view. The huge issue is that first impressions tend to stick in consumer markets and they were all pretty bad for MS whereas they were all pretty good for Sony.

Bottom line is Sony played it safe and essentially launched with a message aimed at what they perceived hardcore early adopters would want to here : our focus is 100% on games and on delivering best gaming console for the price. And they were more or less on the money with that as it turned out.

MS tried something much riskier and complex as a message and it backfired. The market wanted 360 V2 and MS to have clearly more powerful console, online and controller and MS didn't deliver that message at all (and found themselves with the weaker console).

I'd note that Sony's late jump from 4GB to 8GB really changed everything as it was central to MS getting caught with the weaker and more complex console to program for and gave Sony the advantage with the big third party games.

It's not all about trust and tru - it's a composite view of a number of variables and they all favoured Sony early on (unless you were already a strong Xbox fan and/or had to have one for Halo/Gears/Forza). Where trust does come into it that doesn't change quickly in a mass market. Just changing the policy isn't enough unfortunately - you have to rebuild trust too and that takes time.

The problem for MS is even though they've improved a lot of the messaging they can't easily overturn the momentum. Mass markets rarely swing that quickly. The trend is set and it's set for Sony right now.

As most people have noted in the thread the best bet for MS is to focus on games and in particular on true, full exclusives - not on 360, not on PC, only on Xbox One and always only available there. Secondly they're going to have to continue to spend on marketing and extra services/OS improvements to build a sense in the market that they really have changed and are providing value. On that note while dropping the Kinect is a good move they're going to have to make moves on the fact general market believes the console is weaker than PS4 : they're going to have to swallow that pill and price accordingly and make clear what advantages they offer to compensate for the weaker performance.

Obviously sooner is always better too.

Personally I thought their E3 showed they've got the message - now they need to see just how long it takes to slowly work on their public perception challenges.
 
Deputy Moonman said:
I agree that consumers have a right to spend money how they wish and I'm not calling people out for getting a PS4. It's the lack of trust mindset and pretend anger toward MS that humors me. Sony is no more trustworthy now than they were back during the PS3 days, but people seem to think that there is a big difference between the two companies (MS and Sony). If you can "trust" Sony now, I'd argue you can trust "MS" now, too. There is no difference. Big companies. How do they work? Both Sony and MS are both looking out for number one - themselves - and trying to make money. It's a business.

I'd even go as far as saying that you can probably trust MS more so right now since they've had to deal with the initial backlash from fans. Sony is in a position to do anything they want. They've already sold a ton of consoles. It's like food poisoning. The last fast food restaurant that someone is likely to get E. coli food poisoning at is a fast food restaurant that just got into trouble for an E. coli food poisoning incident. You can be sure all the restaurants in that chain are going to be cooking their food thoroughly as a result. Maybe that's a bad or dumb example, but I think there is truth behind it.
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lol ya its indeed pretty funny to see those dramatic comments on trust and grudge. Jesus man, its $400 console, you are not giving your kidney to anyone. Are people really gonna miss out on great games because they don't "TRUST" $360billion company? well I say good for you.
 
If I could sell it for a profit on ebay the instance I get it?

Honesty I just want it to go away, it's adding nothing to gaming (that I'm interested in) and going by the track record of previous xboxs it won't be doing anything in the future either. I might no have interest in the PS4 either but at least Sony has a track record of being worthwhile when the price plummets and gets some games.

Oh the the PC market would have to completely collapse.
 
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