phil_t98
#SonyToo
Yeah but none of the games except Spider-Man which is Sony property have been really good. Guardians was ok from what I played and avengers got boring real quick
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Xbox passed on deal to make Marvel games to focus on their own IP - Head of Marvel Games
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Yeah but none of the games except Spider-Man which is Sony property have been really good. Guardians was ok from what I played and avengers got boring real quick
DangerDiabolik
Member
Good. Now Sony need to ditch the kiddie superhero shit too. I'm sure there's plenty of 5 year olds or people who are mentally 5 years old, who love that shit, but really the games industry should be thriving on new ideas, not licensed kids crap.
CatLady
Selfishly plays on Xbox Purr-ies X
It's good for me too for selfish reasons, I have no interest in Marvel, but it's really stupid for business reasons.
Bernd Lauert
Banned
Man, I never realized how many of you guys follow gutter tier console warriors on twitter. It's almost scaryXbox ambassadors now:
MasterCornholio
Member
My guess is that Wolverine will be pretty good. Very happy that Insomniac is making it.
No offense intended BTW.
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ShirAhava
Plays with kids toys, in the adult gaming world
I had more fun with Lococycle than any Marvel game
kyliethicc
Member
wait til e3 tho
anthony2690
Member
I've played through Myles Morales on PS5, as it came bundled with the console, I've stated numerous times I was pretty unhappy about having it as the game bundled with the console. (As I would've much preferred something like demon souls) I really can't stand console warriors, who come with stupid posts like this.The salt in this thread is already very strong.
Keep it coming boys
Marvel wise, I quite like guardians off the galaxy films, but you can also check my post history about the game too, I wasn't a fan and thought the combat was absolutely awful.
DC I quite like Batman and that's it.
Super heroes just genuinely don't do much for me.
you're also more than welcome to check my PSN too, I played through Astros playroom what I loved, and I forced myself through Myles Morales what I didn't like too much, that being said I did since get rid off the PS5 and Switch as I can't keep up with the stuff I want to play on Xbox alone, I don't have the time I once had.
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And this is a perfect response to the posts about good, focus on original IP.
Its not like Insomniac and MS didn't, MS coulda also had Spider-Man with the same studio.
But....would MS had picked Insomniac is the question.....
Again, hind sight and all..but cot dayum...
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Topher
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Cyber_hunter026
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It's more so depending on the studio. when you put it in the hands of developers, and a publisher who actually care. you can have an amazing final product, it took rocksteady, and insomniac games to really, and truly understand these characters. to create an essential experience. we've seen what happens when a developer make a bad, batman, iron man, and spider-man game. which is why lots of people wanted rocksteady to tackle superman next.
anthony2690
Member
I fully agree, it has worked out incredibly well for Sony and Insomniac, it has given Insomniac an absolutely huge fanbase where a lot off Sony fans even say they are Sony's best studio now and that.
That also sadly means that Sony probably won't ever bother reviving sunset overdrive.
Clear
CliffyB's Cock Holster
Regardless, it was a low output generation for Xbox first party. Which hurt their competitiveness.
And if there wasn't some sort of fundamental problem, they wouldn't have needed to spend billions on acquisitions in the years ahead.
kingfey
Banned
Its not about the games. Its about the studios, which are making the game.
Insomniac was a perfect studio for spiderman and now with wolverine. The rest failed, because their model didn't suit the game, or low marketing.
Xbox wouldn't have made a successful spiderman or any marvel games, without a proper studio's working on these ips.
MasterCornholio
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I don’t believe the IPs are bad you just need to have the right developer to make them.
Hendrick's
If only my penis was as big as my GamerScore!
Try taking your own advice. Many do not like Marvel since Disney took them over. No need to be a warrior.The salt in this thread is already very strong.
Keep it coming boys
Kokoloko85
Member
Phil is a money man. He doesnt have the ability or skills to do this stuff. Buying and paying for stuff doesn't make one a good leader.
Don actually released launch games and exclusives in the first 2 years. Awful lead up though
nikolino840
Member
Why not both?
CatLady
Selfishly plays on Xbox Purr-ies X
That's a good thing for Sony fans SSO sucked and I'm sure any other IPs Insomniac does will be more successful and enjoyable for PS gamers.
Kokoloko85
Member
Insomniac made the game. Not Disney, they had creative freedom
Sony owns Spider-Man.
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Kokoloko85
Member
Yeah there gonna ditch 20+million sales because its kiddie stuff? You know theres loads of people who think video games in general are kiddie stuff…
The industry is making new ip’s. Bloodborne, Returnal, Ghost of Tsushima, Horizon, Detroit, Days Gone, HellBlade, Nioh, Last Guardian and much more were new ideas.
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jm89
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i think they own spiderman for the movie rights.
3liteDragon
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They actually don't own the IP, they own the movie rights to Spider-Man but they were able to publish a Spider-Man game for PlayStation because Marvel licensed it to them. And that license got extended after the first game's success for Spider-Man 2 on PS5.
I doubt Xbox could of done Spider-Man since Sony owns it. They probably could of done wolverine like sony is doing now though.
Dick Jones
Gold Member
I honestly think they could.
three things to look at
1. Whatever you want to say about Spider-Man, that character is the most valuable of all superheroes including DC. Sony or MS would pick Spider-Man first out of Marvel's library.
2. Microsoft may have looked at their first party studios but they were contracting out to devs and looking at the studios internally (accepting MS decision that they genuinely didn't have a match to dev a Marvel game) and externally, Insomniac is #1 of their outside contractors for big open world games.
3. At the time in 2014, Xbox 360 was the winner of the last gen at that time, and they did compete well initially with the Xbone that if Sony and MS both asked for Spider-Man then MS could have been given first refusal.
mansoor1980
Member
if the wolverine game by insomniac ends up being a hit then i am sure more marvel IPs will be looked upon by sony.
overall a great decision by mark cerny and co for this spidey deal on playstation
overall a great decision by mark cerny and co for this spidey deal on playstation
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Urban
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Damn. U check my posting list and go 10 days back ?
Guess i hit a nerve lol
cant even take a joke
Vognerful
Member
I remember it was specifically when SQ announced that spiderman was coming to Avengers game only on Sony platforms. This triggered the discussion about the sort of contract between Sony and marvel/Disney
Cyber_hunter026
Member
I don't know if he was joking or not. but the voice actor Yuri lowenthal had been asking, or atleast begging insomniac games to do a moon knight game.
You maybe correct but it is still a murky area. It could of caused a lawsuit. Better to steer clear and do a different property.
Ultimately they chose neither.
MasterCornholio
Member
I honestly wouldn’t compare Insomniacs Marvel games to Disneys Marvel movies.
MadPanda
Banned
I'm sure Microsoft would accept it now, but at the time their first party studios was so barren that I don't know who could even make any marvel games? Turn 10 is forza, 343i is halo and the coalition is gears. At the time they also had lionhead which was Fable, enable which was rts games and some smaller studios I think. Man, their situation was so dire, I'm not sure how they came to 50-60 millions of xbox one consoles. What's even more strange is that at the time they paid 2.4 billions for minecraft but passed on marvel games. I do think that original IP is better than licenced games, but they had neither so it was a bad decision.
Hendrick's
If only my penis was as big as my GamerScore!
Idk, I found the characters and story to be very Disney-like. They even changed PP to look more like Tom Holland.
Kokoloko85
Member
I think PS3 sold more overall by 2014. With a year less on the market too
Topher
Identifies as young
No one knows what kind of deal is in place between Marvel and Sony with regards to Spider-man. I'll say it again, the fact that the game became a PS exclusive not extremely long after Marvel and Sony made a deal for Spider-man to be in the MCU is one hell of a coincidence.
I don't think that has anything to do with Disney. Told Holland was under contract with Sony.
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Kokoloko85
Member
Its pretty decent. Better than alot of the other games and movies.
Supposedly Spiderman 2 will be darker.
Id personally like some new combat mechanics, even though it was much better than the last Batman games combat, id like them to take the spiderman notch up to 10, like the cartoons.
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MasterCornholio
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I’m a hardcore Insomniac fan. I’ll admit that compared to what they usually do SSO wasn’t exactly their highest point just like Fuse was kind of a disaster for them. I’m happy that Insomniac is doing much better now since I really do enjoy Ratchet and their Marvel games. On the other hand it sucks that those games are not available on every platform,
MasterCornholio
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Spiderman prints money, if Microsoft really passed on Spiderman they are not very long-sighted and shame on them that i have to wait longer for the pc version. If they were only offered the other superheros i can understand it. Of course you could also let another superhero beat up villains like Batman, but nobody comes even close to Spidermans's popularity. Guardians of the Galaxy for example is as good as Spiderman, but even if it had better marketing it couldn't stand a chance against Spiderman.
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MasterCornholio
Member
Need to play the game again but it still seems like a top notch Insomniac game to me. Not anything like those poor quality Marvel games. I can’t hate Insomniac for making a good game.
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mansoor1980
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Hendrick's
If only my penis was as big as my GamerScore!
Gameplay was good, just didn't like the story and cinematics.
MasterCornholio
Member
Well then you should be happy that Insomniac is making them.
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