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[Sooner]

Here's an analogy to ponder. It's not very simplified, but iit still carries some meaning.

The PlayStation 6 and Switch 2 are $450 to $700 dvd players. The games cost $70 or $80 a piece.

Xbox Gamepass is Netflix and plays on countless devices and costs $20 a month with a large library of popular games. If you want the Xbox console, it's an add on and they will happily sell you one.

Which do you think sounds more successful in the long run?

I broke 7 DVDs so far trying to shove them in my Switch 2.

 

[Geometric-Crusher]

PC's large APUs such as AMD's Strix Halo made the specialized "Xbox" SKU redundant. A certain fruit company made SoC (Pro, Max, Ultra) with a large iGPU fashionable in the PC market.

AMD has not worked in the high-end segment since the Radeon FuryX, I believe that AMD will make a high-performance GPU for use in the Xbox Prime (the reference machine). The other machines will use GPUs off the shell, that's my guess, imo PS6 will not have access to the Xbox Prime GPU.
the tendency is for Sony to invest in exclusives and low prices after all, Sony depends a lot on the PS division.

 

[vaibhavpisal]

Here's an analogy to ponder. It's not very simplified, but iit still carries some meaning.

The PlayStation 6 and Switch 2 are $450 to $700 dvd players. The games cost $70 or $80 a piece.

Xbox Gamepass is Netflix and plays on countless devices and costs $20 a month with a large library of popular games. If you want the Xbox console, it's an add on and they will happily sell you one.

Which do you think sounds more successful in the long run?

Marketing and perception, especially for casuals play a big role. Also price points.

Which is how PS / Nintendo will continue to be successful.

New Xbox seems like firmly dedicated at core gamer crowd.

 

[Geometric-Crusher]

Here's an analogy to ponder. It's not very simplified, but iit still carries some meaning.

The PlayStation 6 and Switch 2 are $450 to $700 dvd players. The games cost $70 or $80 a piece.

Xbox Gamepass is Netflix and plays on countless devices and costs $20 a month with a large library of popular games. If you want the Xbox console, it's an add on and they will happily sell you one.

Which do you think sounds more successful in the long run?

If Microsoft is like ''Netflix'' and the PS6 is like ''DVD'', then why is ''Netflix making DVD hardware'' ? The truth is that they need hardware where they can control the flow of subscriptions, but paradoxically, they are creating an open system where, in theory, they give up that control, making the second situation worse than the first.

I understand your reasoning. You think that in the future there will be a change in the model, but the model only changes when the market leader wants and makes itself that change. The open console system only works if Sony makes the PS6 open, but they won't do that, so that future horizon will never happen will always be the carrot.

Make no mistake, Microsoft have a closed Windows, unlike Linux, which is open. Nvidia works with exclusives, while AMD works with open source. It's closed source that guarantees business success.

 

[demigod]

Maybe you wouldn't be so angry if your tv wasn't too high up.

Instead of being concerned about me, bro should be fixing his TV placement. Who the F puts it up that high. The original owners of my current house did the same thing, putting their tv up that high above fireplace. I said hell no and put it in a different spot and lower.

 

[djjinx2]

Instead of being concerned about me, bro should be fixing his TV placement. Who the F puts it up that high. The original owners of my current house did the same thing, putting their tv up that high above fireplace. I said hell no and put it in a different spot and lower.

Room layout maybe?

How do you not get banned, such a troll???

 

[demigod]

Backseat modding is very frowned upon here

Room layout maybe?

How do you not get banned, such a troll???

Hilarious

 

[MisterXDTV]

Here's an analogy to ponder. It's not very simplified, but iit still carries some meaning.

The PlayStation 6 and Switch 2 are $450 to $700 dvd players. The games cost $70 or $80 a piece.

Xbox Gamepass is Netflix and plays on countless devices and costs $20 a month with a large library of popular games. If you want the Xbox console, it's an add on and they will happily sell you one.

Which do you think sounds more successful in the long run?

Then why their two current consoles with GamePass are already dead???

You know the killing strategy with a cheap console for casuals and the MOST POWERFUL EVER???

 

[RetroGamingUK]

The doomsaying that Xbox PC is some final nail in the coffin seems to have missed the memo that the brand already conceded years ago. They're a multiplatform company now and everything is coming to PC, PS5/6 and Switch 2. "No red lines" etc. I don't understand how people still haven't taken this on board and are stuck in console warrior mode.

A agree with most of this.

In a way Xbox has gone from competing with PlayStation to competing with Steam (and securing Windows in the face of SteamOS).

Though the inclusion of Steam and other stores contradicts this somewhat.

 

[demigod]

Here's an analogy to ponder. It's not very simplified, but iit still carries some meaning.

The PlayStation 6 and Switch 2 are $450 to $700 dvd players. The games cost $70 or $80 a piece.

Xbox Gamepass is Netflix and plays on countless devices and costs $20 a month with a large library of popular games. If you want the Xbox console, it's an add on and they will happily sell you one.

Which do you think sounds more successful in the long run?

Seriously people need to stop comparing gamepass to netflix, FAR from it. Netflix actually has good shows.

 

[TDiddyLive]

Seriously people need to stop comparing gamepass to netflix, FAR from it. Netflix actually has good shows.

 

[Killer8]

A agree with most of this.

In a way Xbox has gone from competing with PlayStation to competing with Steam (and securing Windows in the face of SteamOS).

Though the inclusion of Steam and other stores contradicts this somewhat.

I view the relationship between Xbox and Steam as a sort of positive parasitic relationship.

Windows is the dominant OS for 95% of Steam users. Steam is the dominant gaming storefront on PC. So they both benefit from cooperating with each. Microsoft use Steam as a place to sell their games and will have Steam library integration within the Xbox app.

I do not even necessarily view Windows and SteamOS as competing (*yet anyway). Valve have tried for years to make SteamOS a thing yet 95% of people keep using Windows according to the Steam surveys. That number has barely budged for the last ten years.

Both companies are really only pushing their OS more out of hardware necessity. SteamOS 3.0 was built so that Valve could get PC games running natively on a handheld via Proton, without needing to rely on Windows functionality (and its associated licensing fees which would add to the Deck's RRP).

Microsoft meanwhile are improving Windows for gaming because Xbox hardware collapsed and it's now necessary for PC to inherit the console-like functionality. Deck was an example of how it can be done from a UI and integration standpoint so it's no surprise a lot of inspiration is being taken from it.

Obviously a lot can change in ten years and SteamOS might be viable some day for desktop or Steam Machine 2.0 uses, but it's so far away it's not worth thinking about seriously.

 

[Geometric-Crusher]

Bloomberg: Microsoft Plans Major Job Cuts at Xbox Gaming Division

At this rate, maybe xbox-pc will be cancelled. Before the Atari Jaguar disappeared, the company swore that everything was fine, perhaps the recent announcements happened following a schedule but the board decided to make the layoffs, all very sudden, the shareholders' patience ran out.

 

[Punished Miku]

At this rate, maybe xbox-pc will be cancelled

This is probably thread worthy. Don't let anyone get your scoop. The people need to know.

 

[EverydayBeast]

How is Xbox going more PC an attack on the brand? The fundamentals of consoles have been going PC since gen 7 when "other os" exists on PS3.