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Xbox Summit 2005

krypt0nian said:
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Izzy said:
Both were timed excusives - and there'll be a lot of timed exclusives this gen. Funny you should mention GTA.
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Resident Evil was NOT a timed exclusive. It was the management fucking over the developers. And GTA's next-gen platform is not decided yet :P (please stop now)
 
fugimax said:
Different situation though..

MS is literally paying devs to make ANYTHING for the 360..

Paying for exclusivivity of a given title seems less...desperate..
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Huh-huh-huh, yeah, because the Xbox 360 is going to be such a flop, there's no way that any developer - especially Japanese - could make a profit by making a game for the system.

Oh, and could you provide me with some of the specifics on how much Microsoft are paying Japanese developers to make games for the Xbox 360? I know I, along with others, would be thrilled to see such industry insider information.
 
DCharlie said:
funny indeed - i got some confirmation - your info isn't right.
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HAHAHA. It's the battle of the console-side insiders. Will GTA be PS3 exclusive like Izzy alludes to? Will it be XBX360 exclusive/multiplatform like DCharlie alludes to? STAY TUNED.
 
Chiggs said:
Huh-huh-huh, yeah, because the Xbox 360 is going to be such a flop, there's no way that any developer - especially Japanese - could make a profit by making a game for the system.

Oh, and could you provide me with some of the specifics on how much Microsoft are paying Japanese developers to make games for the Xbox 360? I know I, along with others, would be thrilled to see such industry insider information.
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fugimax, you've just been Nightrained!

:P
 
Amir0x said:
HAHAHA. It's the battle of the console-side insiders. Will GTA be PS3 exclusive like Izzy alludes to? Will it be XBX360 exclusive/multiplatform like DCharlie alludes to? STAY TUNED.
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I have it on good info (Nighttrain) that Rockstar loves the Revolution and GTA Next is the big N's to lose.

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:lol
 
Amir0x said:
HAHAHA. It's the battle of the console-side insiders. Will GTA be PS3 exclusive like Izzy alludes to? Will it be XBX360 exclusive/multiplatform like DCharlie alludes to? STAY TUNED.
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Well, considering Izzy has been saying GTA4 is "locked" as a PS3 exclusive since the same day Take 2 claimed it wasn't, I'd say his information probably isn't 100% accurate.
 
"Will GTA be PS3 exclusive like Izzy alludes to? Will it be XBX360 exclusive/multiplatform like DCharlie alludes to? STAY TUNED."
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it's not decided at all.
See Jonnyram post too.
 
Huh-huh-huh, yeah, because the Xbox 360 is going to be such a flop, there's no way that any developer - especially Japanese - could make a profit by making a game for the system.

Oh, and could you provide me with some of the specifics on how much Microsoft are paying Japanese developers to make games for the Xbox 360? I know I, along with others, would be thrilled to see such industry insider information.
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Wtf? I have nothing against the 360 at all. Without the excessive courting through money and other means, many Japanese developers would be much more cautious in their approach to the 360, purely based on Xbox 1's failure in Japan.

I think it's common knowledge that the majority of Japanese developers announcing big titles (i.e. Sakaguchi, Mizuguchi) were given a large amount of money. Can I show you a check or a earnings report that says "MONEY TO TEH JAPANESE DEVZ", no, because MS will roll it into "Operations" costs.

I'm not saying there's anything wrong with it, it's what MS does -- buy what it can't get on its own.
 
Odysseus said:
I have it on good info (Nighttrain) that Rockstar loves the Revolution and GTA Next is the big N's to lose.

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:lol
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THEY WILL SUPPORT NINTENDO ON PRINCIPLE ALONE. YOU SHALL ALL SEE.

Just kidding Johnny, I make no judgments!

DCharlie said:
it's not decided at all.
See Jonnyram post too.
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Kay-oh. I'm surprised it's not at least very close to being decided, though, considering it's Take-Two's crown jewel.
 
DCharlie said:
it's not decided at all.
See Jonnyram post too.
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C'mon, it's gotta be decided. First on the to-do list for both Sony & Microsoft was to sign GTA exclusively at almost any price. You can almost not pay too much for this game, seeing as how it outsold any 3rd party franchise other than Madden, by like 8-1.

I dont' know which of the two have it, but it's gotta be signed by now and probably pretty well into at least the planning stages, with the developers hip deep into the hardware and probably signed some 3rd party engine.
 
Yawn, can we please stop talking about GTA, considering this is about Japanese developers and the GTA series is serevely overrated.
 
fugimax said:
Wtf? I have nothing against the 360 at all. Along with excessive courting through money and other means, many Japanese developers are less cautious in their approach to the 360, purely based on Xbox 1's success in the USA.
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fixed. Just having fun. :)

If Velocity Girl is there I'm gonna puke.
 
Sony and Nintendo never pay for exclusives?
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Like I said earlier...it's not the same as Sony or Nintendo (or MS) saying:

"Whoa, you have a successful series here...can we get that exclusive? Here's some cash!"

it's more like:

"Hey...will you develop something for us? Anything? We have lots of money!"

Again, I'm not anti-360 at all. I've got one on pre-order and am pumped for it. I'm just telling it like it is.
 
Anoop just posted to IGN boards that he is not even attending the event (shocker), but he'll provide translations from http://xboxnext.jpn.org. Can anyone else just go ahead and do that here?



Edit: Turns out that I'm retarded. Anoop != ikachii
 
fugimax said:
Like I said earlier...it's not the same as Sony or Nintendo (or MS) saying:

"Whoa, you have a successful series here...can we get that exclusive? Here's some cash!"

it's more like:

"Hey...will you develop something for us? Anything? We have lots of money!"

Again, I'm not anti-360 at all. I've got one on pre-order and am pumped for it. I'm just telling it like it is.
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Well, it seems like all the japanese developers that you claim were given money are making exclusive titles. So, what's your point?
 
"C'mon, it's gotta be decided. First on the to-do list for both Sony & Microsoft was to sign GTA exclusively at almost any price. You can almost not pay too much for this game, seeing as how it outsold any 3rd party franchise other than Madden, by like 8-1."
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it's NOT decided.
You can believe that or not, it's entirely up to you.
 
sonycowboy said:
C'mon, it's gotta be decided. First on the to-do list for both Sony & Microsoft was to sign GTA exclusively at almost any price. You can almost not pay too much for this game, seeing as how it outsold any 3rd party franchise other than Madden, by like 8-1.

I dont' know which of the two have it, but it's gotta be signed by now and probably pretty well into at least the planning stages, with the developers hip deep into the hardware and probably signed some 3rd party engine.
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Unless of course you keep both manufactures squirming while you proceed with multiplatform in mind (since any deal would probably be limited exclusivity), cranking the bidding to astronomical levels. Keep working on the game as if it is going to both machines, since it will if history tells us anything, and let the money decide which machine gets it first.
 
fugimax said:
Like I said earlier...it's not the same as Sony or Nintendo (or MS) saying:

"Whoa, you have a successful series here...can we get that exclusive? Here's some cash!"

it's more like:

"Hey...will you develop something for us? Anything? We have lots of money!"

Again, I'm not anti-360 at all. I've got one on pre-order and am pumped for it. I'm just telling it like it is.
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Actually, you're telling it how you think it is.
 
Well, it seems like all the japanese developers that you claim were given money are making exclusive titles. So, what's your point?
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The difference is that MS did not see a title it liked and wanted it available only on 360.

Sony didn't go to R*, "Hey, make us a game...any game...here's money."

They said "We want GTA exclusive...here's money."

Do you see the difference? I'm not saying one is wrong and the other is right. I'm just saying the "Make us any game" scenario just sounds desperate.
 
Hitler Stole My Potato said:
So IGN's coverage consists of a guy translating a web page? Brilliant.
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Looks like it....although someone earlier said that IGN had peeps there.

Anoop killed the link in the thread after I bitched.
 
Actually, you're telling it how you think it is.
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No, how I know it is. I can't speak for all the Japanese developers deving for 360, but I know for a fact that some of them were given money. Again, I don't see anything wrong with this...I'm not sure why you're being so defensive.
 
"This sucks, the gaming media once again shows their bais toward Sony. Why else did they drop the ball on this conference?"
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because it's the summer holidays and most the journos have gone home for a much needed rest?
 
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