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Xbox Summit 2005

fugimax said:
No, how I know it is. I can't speak for all the Japanese developers deving for 360, but I know for a fact that some of them were given money. Again, I don't see anything wrong with this...I'm not sure why you're being so defensive.
I hope your source isnt the same one that told you about the downgraded 360 CPU :p :lol
 
beermonkey@tehbias said:
Sony and Nintendo never pay for exclusives?

Thats not how Nintendo likes to run its buisness ie. writing blank checks. Even their greatest coup from this generation obtaining the RE franchise Mikami said that Nintendo didn't really pay for the series as much as they just had an arrangement (Capcom gets to play with the Zelda franchise while Mikami pimps out RE's for Cube). This is imo their biggest flaw being their unwillingness to write those checks in an age where MS will surely put some dollars in yo back pocket for ya hair grease.

As for Sony they are the industry leaders so if they have paid for exclusives it wasn't for many or much. I'm no insider but one of the Rockstar Big-Wigs use to gamble over at Horseshoe Casino by Chicago and he use to brag about how Sony paid top dollar to get San Andres (and perhaps future GTA's) as reasonable timed exclusives. I believe the number thrown around was between 200-300 Million but as we all know, where GTA goes 12 Million fans go.
 
The event is still in the opening greeting stages

The admininstrator of the site is going to have a hell of a time uploading images with all the traffic it's getting-----

ikachii :lol

Shaheed79 said:
Thats not how Nintendo likes to run its buisness ie. writing blank checks. Even their greatest coup from this generation obtaining the RE franchise Mikami said that Nintendo didn't really pay for the series as much as they just had an arrangement (Capcom gets to play with the Zelda franchise while Mikami pimps out RE's for Cube). This is imo their biggest flaw being their unwillingness to write those checks in an age where MS will surely put some dollars in yo back pocket for ya hair grease.

Q fund?
 
littlewig said:
This sucks, the gaming media once again shows their bais toward Sony. Why else did they drop the ball on this conference?

Hmmm, only Nintendo fans can come up with conspiracy theories on this level. Why are you defending the xdude?
 
fugimax said:
No, how I know it is. I can't speak for all the Japanese developers deving for 360, but I know for a fact that some of them were given money. Again, I don't see anything wrong with this...I'm not sure why you're being so defensive.

Of course they were given money for exclusivity. That does NOT mean that they are just offering money to anyone who will take it for exclusive projects.
 
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I hope your source isnt the same one that told you about the downgraded 360 CPU
Right, because I was completely wrong that the lack of OoOE logic was hurting performance more than expected..(I wasn't). I also said there were issues with the yields (which there were...and thus my speculation about operating frequency), but IBM has since fixed them.

And no, different source anyways. ;)
 
fugimax said:
No, how I know it is. I can't speak for all the Japanese developers deving for 360, but I know for a fact that some of them were given money. Again, I don't see anything wrong with this...I'm not sure why you're being so defensive.

I don't see why you're being so defensive. You make a comment and I, in return, ask you to back it up. Is there anything wrong with that?

How do you "know how it is?" Do you work for a Japanese developer? Are you a part of their monthly meetings that focus on company strategies and platform development? I would like to know.

If you're going to say that employees for Microsoft are going around Japan flashing BIG AMERICAN DOLLARS in the faces of all Japanese developers, because, somehow, the Xbox 360 just isn't an attractive console to develop for AT ALL, I would like to see you qualify a statement like that with something to back it up - something concrete.
 
Would you people shut the fuck up and report some motherfucking shit so we can talk about that shit instead of this stupid bullshit, you goddamn sons of bitches?
 
fugimax said:
No, how I know it is. I can't speak for all the Japanese developers deving for 360, but I know for a fact that some of them were given money. Again, I don't see anything wrong with this...I'm not sure why you're being so defensive.


ok...ok...ok


put a frickin sock in it for everyones sake.
 
sangreal said:
Of course they were given money for exclusivity. That does NOT mean that they are just offering money to anyone who will take it for exclusive projects.

Of course not they learned their lesson from that with Xbox. I still remember the story about how Kojima was pissed he wasn't offered money hats for the MGS game that he promised for Xbox while some other Japanese dev was bragging about all the money MS had given them.
 
you guys are expecting updates pretty quickly. we didnt get jack until the show was over for the playstation event
 
littlewig said:
So, how long is this conference? It's already been 30 minutes.

WRONG. it's been 32 minutes :(
 
Wario64 said:
you guys are expecting updates pretty quickly. we didnt get jack until the show was over for the playstation event

You are right. Remember the PS Meeting last week? So I think we have to wait 2 or more hours till the big sites are updating :)
 
Don't worry guys the usual suspects will simply posts new topics for every nice new piece of information revealed at the event. I just peeked in here to see how soon the event was starting.
 
fugimax said:
Wtf? I have nothing against the 360 at all. Without the excessive courting through money and other means, many Japanese developers would be much more cautious in their approach to the 360, purely based on Xbox 1's failure in Japan.

I think it's common knowledge that the majority of Japanese developers announcing big titles (i.e. Sakaguchi, Mizuguchi) were given a large amount of money. Can I show you a check or a earnings report that says "MONEY TO TEH JAPANESE DEVZ", no, because MS will roll it into "Operations" costs.

I'm not saying there's anything wrong with it, it's what MS does -- buy what it can't get on its own.

yes because there is a rule set in stone by the united nations that japanese devs that make games for MS CANNOT release their games in any territory but japan. Therefore MS has to pay these devs to recoup their losses. Team Ninja gets around these rules setfourth by the UN by including that 30 second treaty in the boot sequence all of their US XBOX games.
 
"The original developers " of the EverQuest ", use the PC and the development tool XNA for the Xbox360, the MMORPG " Vanguard: The Saga of Heroes " has been produced.
With the E3 of last year, Xbox360 edition is made, because * * with comment of the production person who is said had come out, being to have become matter of concern, it does, but every month, the new screen shot was not open just is released, information at all with the official sight."
 
Agent Icebeezy said:
"The original developers " of the EverQuest ", use the PC and the development tool XNA for the Xbox360, the MMORPG " Vanguard: The Saga of Heroes " has been produced.
With the E3 of last year, Xbox360 edition is made, because * * with comment of the production person who is said had come out, being to have become matter of concern, it does, but every month, the new screen shot was not open just is released, information at all with the official sight."


http://www.vanguardsoh.com/
 
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