The End said:right, but MS is doing everything they can to minimize the gap between Xenon and the PS3, so they're leaving it up in the air until the last possible moment.
The fear is palpable.
The End said:right, but MS is doing everything they can to minimize the gap between Xenon and the PS3, so they're leaving it up in the air until the last possible moment.
xexex said:good to know Microsoft is going to bring us fairly new technology, unlike the PS2 when it released. PS2 was already getting old before it came out.
Fixed, and my reply would be: All of them.peedi said::lol ..... If you're being serious, tell me what GPU on the market, when the ps2 was released, compared to the Graphics Synthesizer feature-wise.
TekunoRobby said:Would this be the picture in question?
It loads fine for me on the second page.
Blimblim said:Fixed, and my reply would be: All of them.
Can't you please go to PS2 topics, seeing you on Xbox centric topics is getting tiring.
And I proved you that the PS2 GPU was awfully outdated piece of hardware. What's your point?peedi said:Fixed? It isn't analogous. He said the PS2 was dated out the box. I challenged him to prove that absurdity.
Blimblim said:it looks like 512 Mbytes of RAM + cache is more and more likely.
I should have a confirmation before the end of the week.Ghost of Bill Gates said:If true, this is the best news yet!
I think the mods see him as a joke that is being tolerated now. I bet Futami won't survive till E3.GashPrex said:how are you still posting here?
Blimblim said:The first Xbox was not finalized for its first E3.
Blimblim said:I should have a confirmation before the end of the week.
Blimblim said:And I proved you that the PS2 GPU was awfully outdated piece of hardware. What's your point?
I've found that putting someone on my ignore list (axsider) would actually make me want to see what he was saying. And I had to make a special effort to do so!rastex said:Ignore button people. Use it!
:lol I forgot about that. And..... done.rastex said:That's what happens initially when you want to satisfy your curiosity, but if you're strong then you eventually come to the understand that they really do have nothing important or useful to say, so there's no point in reading it. Plus you get the added benefit of not having to endure their ridiculous statements that go against all logic and good reason.
edit: I have 16 people on my ignore list, so I guess you could say I'm used to it
Doom_Bringer said:Psyborgs aren't too annoying, I think Xbots take the cake here. People like Reanimated, thorns, Ryudo, cockles, Error Macro, open_mouth, bitewise just to name a few. Now these guys are masters at relentless trolling.
I guess I'm too weak.rastex said:That's what happens initially when you want to satisfy your curiosity, but if you're strong then you eventually come to the understand that they really do have nothing important or useful to say, so there's no point in reading it. Plus you get the added benefit of not having to endure their ridiculous statements that go against all logic and good reason.
edit: I have 16 people on my ignore list, so I guess you could say I'm used to it
thorns said::lol
i like how your list keeps growing bigger as you edit.
Doom_Bringer said:yeah just remembered a few more names that's all
Even if what you say is true (and it's only very partially true and completely the opposite in other part), I don't see how that invalidates his point. Xexex has said that PS2 didn't bring any new worthy technology. I think that EE was certainly pretty new and pretty advanced for it's time. Considering that it was the major part of the PS2, I'd say it did in fact bring some quite new technology to the table. Btw, Xexex was the one to bring PS2 into this thread and in a way that just begged for counter-trolling.And I proved you that the PS2 GPU was awfully outdated piece of hardware. What's your point?
I understand (and agree with) your point, but seeing that peevy moron is really getting on my nerves.Marconelly said:Even if what you say is true (and it's only very partially true and completely the opposite in other part), I don't see how that invalidates his point. Xexex has said that PS2 didn't bring any new worthy technology. I think that EE was certainly pretty new and pretty advanced for it's time. Considering that it was the major part of the PS2, I'd say it did in fact bring some quite new technology to the table. Btw, Xexex was the one to bring PS2 into this thread and in a way that just begged for counter-trolling.
Pug said:By the way they are also working on PS3 titles!
The 512 MB change, if true, would be from last week.Pug said:Gofreak it was a bit of guess on my but based on some of the information I got from the guys. Specs have been changing all along and they for sure do not know the final spec with regards to many issues. If this includes the CPU i don't know, what they did say 3 weeks ago that it did seem like 256 MB main ram, although Blim thinks this may have changed, if so it just reaffirms what the guys have been telling me. By the way they are also working on PS3 titles!
Yeah the PC version lets you heavily modify it and change all sorts of stuff around, not to mention the badly needed texture upgrades.thorns said:i don't really mind being called an xbot anyway , could give less shit about it..
not to derail the thread but I got thief : deadly shadows (xbox) version today and wtf is up with the framerate? total shit don't have a pc good enough to run it either.. and I'm a big fan of thief series.
Blimblim said:The 512 MB change, if true, would be from last week.
Yeah, they sell plasma TV's and the such here too. However, they don't even bother mention that they are capable of HDTV signals, and as you say, broadcasting stations don't send out signals, and I doubt they will for some time. In five years we could MAYBE be where Amerika is now on HDTV, now how does that fit into the whole HD era plan? What's in it for Europe???Pug said:Kobold, theres plenty of High Def TV's for sale in the UK, however there is no media available as yet (well tv broadcasts) that utilise HD. Hence not much is being made of the fact that the TV is HD compatible. The slaes of plasma's and LCD's over the Xmas period in the UK was massive.
I really hope they don't remove the triggers. They are basically the fundament of the controller that makes racing and firing better then on any other controller because you can apply pressure.pj325is said:You all missed the most important thing in that picture.. THE WHITE BUTTON IS STILL THERE.. Putting colored buttons on a part of the controller that you can't see (assuming they're being moved to the shoulder), is kind of weird.
Well, if you're patient enough, you can expect that annoying people, no matter what camp they belong to, get weeded off quickly here.I understand (and agree with) your point, but seeing that peevy moron is really getting on my nerves.
I agree, that was a smart thing to do, not only becaue of hardware but also documentation, code samples, GPU dev tools, etc...Seeing NVidia working on the very thing that was bad on PS2 totally convinces me that PS3 will be a monster.
Heh, it seems like if everyone would just like things they like and go about their business, GAF would implodeI understand (and agree with) your point, but seeing that peevy moron is really getting on my nerves.
I agree, that was a smart thing to do, not only becaue of hardware but also documentation, code samples, GPU dev tools, etc...Seeing NVidia working on the very thing that was bad on PS2 totally convinces me that PS3 will be a monster.
thorns said:blimblim said:The only interesting thing (even if it's already quite old) is that the executables are now using the .exe extension instead of .xbe. This could be mean that MS is aiming for both windows and xenon compatibility with a single executable. Disclaimer: This is speculation on my part, I never heard anything about such an idea from my contacts.
This is simply not possible, since you can't run the same machine code in two different architectures.
Marconelly said:Oh, and 512MB in Xenon would be great if true. Not just for Xenon itself but also because it would effectively force Sony (and maybe even Nintendo) to at least follow - to everyone's benefit.
soundwave05 said:Why is the PS3 stuck at 256MB again?
xexex said:keep in mind, that 512 MB of RAM is not gobsmackingly awesome. it is just decent, and just saving Xenon from being completely crippled as far as memory.
512 MB is only 8 times as much memory as Xbox, obviously. still a smaller leap than from PS1 to PS2
Ghost of Bill Gates said:The maximum RAM a single Cell processor can access in the PS3 is 256MB. It's a hardware limitation, and the only way around that would be to include a second processor using a seperate bank of RAM.
soundwave05 said:I still doubt PS3 will only have 256MB of RAM. Maybe the CELL processor will have 256MB all to itself and the Nvidia GPU will get an additional 256MB.