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Stunning them retrieves their weapon intact while killing them instead nets you weapon fragments.
Great way to acquire weapons if money's tight.
Metalmurphy
Member
Which one is the battleship? Is it the big Square one?
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
It's the huge one that shoots white fusion lasers at your interceptor.
weekend_warrior
Banned
Damn, classic is serious business. Just finished my first mission after restarting without the tutorial and lost 3 guys, the last guy only survived by the skin of his balls.
Incendiary
Banned
Towards the end of Classic I discovered I actually needed the weapon fragments more than I needed the actual weapons, just for specific research.
It is a good way to acquire plasma weapons without buying them as some have pointed out. It can be risky, but stunning muttons will equip your soldiers quickly without wasting any credits or materials.
That's happened to me in game too, I think it's absolutely insane that you can't "break down" a complete weapon.
Finally completed it and feel kind of weird. Game ended on a bit of a sour note for me..
Overall, I still really loved the game. The atmosphere was awesome, the mechanics were fantastic, the music was SO GOOD at getting me pumped up. Easily one of my favourite games of this gen, despite it's flaws. Really hoping for some substantial DLC soon. Starting my Classic Ironman run now, going to try and play a little differently. Last time round I think I used shotguns in maybe 2 or 3 missions at the very start of the game..more shotguns this time!
-First off, that last mission is bullshit. Took me 3 tries on Normal Ironman. I know the game said 'no going back' and all but I really wasn't prepared enough, I'd lost my 2 out of my 3 favourite soldiers that I'd had since the start of the game the mission right before.
-My 3rd favourite soldier was 'the chosen one' which is annoying because he sacrificed himself and I didn't get the trophy for taking a soldier from the start to the end of the game. My own fault again I guess, but how was I to know he'd do that.
-The framerate got pretty fucking bad towards the end of the game, especially noticable now I've started a Classic Ironman run. So smooth! Please do better Firaxis.. PS3 version btw.
-The game itself was too buggy to be acceptable. Maybe early in this gens life cycle, but not at the tail end. Crashes, graphic glitches like all the icons turning purple and weird, stuttering, audio fuckups and probably other stuff too.
-The final cutscene either bugged out or was put together by an audio team of monkeys, because the music was super quiet, as were the sound effects. Everyones voices however were SUPER LOUD AND CLEAR LIKE THEY WERE RIGHT NEXT TO ME. Kind of a bummer having that final cutscene ruined.
-Also, my sacrifice soldier looked EXACTLY like the random civilian they first cut to looking up at the sky, which was also super weird.
-My 3rd favourite soldier was 'the chosen one' which is annoying because he sacrificed himself and I didn't get the trophy for taking a soldier from the start to the end of the game. My own fault again I guess, but how was I to know he'd do that.
-The framerate got pretty fucking bad towards the end of the game, especially noticable now I've started a Classic Ironman run. So smooth! Please do better Firaxis.. PS3 version btw.
-The game itself was too buggy to be acceptable. Maybe early in this gens life cycle, but not at the tail end. Crashes, graphic glitches like all the icons turning purple and weird, stuttering, audio fuckups and probably other stuff too.
-The final cutscene either bugged out or was put together by an audio team of monkeys, because the music was super quiet, as were the sound effects. Everyones voices however were SUPER LOUD AND CLEAR LIKE THEY WERE RIGHT NEXT TO ME. Kind of a bummer having that final cutscene ruined.
-Also, my sacrifice soldier looked EXACTLY like the random civilian they first cut to looking up at the sky, which was also super weird.
Overall, I still really loved the game. The atmosphere was awesome, the mechanics were fantastic, the music was SO GOOD at getting me pumped up. Easily one of my favourite games of this gen, despite it's flaws. Really hoping for some substantial DLC soon. Starting my Classic Ironman run now, going to try and play a little differently. Last time round I think I used shotguns in maybe 2 or 3 missions at the very start of the game..more shotguns this time!
OmegaDragon
Member
In the early-mid game, Sectoids, Thin Man and Floaters are nice targets for stunning. Sectoids give you plasma pistols, nice upgrade but very expensive to buy. The other two give you light plasma rifles, which are great weapons at that time, especially for rookies due to the Aim bonus.
I had the mission music keep on playing over the final cutscenes. Similar issue with the cutscene when you first build the
psi labs.
I made the mistake of selling off a few dozen fragments, since I remembered having so many left over at the end of my normal game. Well, turns out when you actually have a good cash flow you also use more for the various foundry projects. Stalled my game as I couldn't research the new aircrafts (75 fragments), and I messed up on the
supply ship
Metalmurphy
Member
Is the "World" stats that appear at the end of the game an average or the best record?
If it's Average, how on earth is the average score 77k? oO
If it's the best record then I just beat a bunch of them oO
*edit* It has to be the best record, there's no way the average on Interceptors lost is 0. Wohooo! I just beat a bunch of records!
If it's Average, how on earth is the average score 77k? oO
If it's the best record then I just beat a bunch of them oO
*edit* It has to be the best record, there's no way the average on Interceptors lost is 0. Wohooo! I just beat a bunch of records!
forgeforsaken
Member
The ones that say you can sell them safely.
Other stuff you can sell depending on your needs but make sure you research it first and know what it builds into, even corpses build into one use items for interceptors or equipment.
Thank you kindly.
Metalmurphy
Member
Damaged spaceship items can be sold, as well as some other ones (they let you know in green letters)
As for corpses, I'd advise you to hang on to at least 6 of each for upgrades, and sectoids/floaters/cyberdisks? as many as you can for interceptor modules.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Ran into my first frustrating bug.
My Impossible Ironman attempt was going well until I ran into a sectoid that was invulnerable to grenades. I wasted 3 'nades on it. Since I broke cover to get in range with the grenades, it proceeded to kill one of my guys next turn, and during the rest of the mission I didn't have any more 'nades to get out of tight spots.
Everyone died.
(no, there weren't any height discrepancies, I was using the 'nades properly)
My Impossible Ironman attempt was going well until I ran into a sectoid that was invulnerable to grenades. I wasted 3 'nades on it. Since I broke cover to get in range with the grenades, it proceeded to kill one of my guys next turn, and during the rest of the mission I didn't have any more 'nades to get out of tight spots.
Everyone died.
(no, there weren't any height discrepancies, I was using the 'nades properly)
Incendiary
Banned
I think my worst mistake in my Classic playthrough was selling a bunch of corpses early, especially the basic Sectoids. About mid-game, when you're attempting to
take down the Overseer
Zomba13
Member
Had this awesome experience yesterday but thought I'd post about it anyway.
Had a terror mission (forget where) and it was all Chrysalids. Managed to save about half the Civilians before shit got bad and the Chrysalids took out the last few survivors. I wanted to get everyone out (thought I could extract from the mission early by getting all 6 squad members to the jet) but on the way back things were getting bad. Lots of zombies and chrysalids charging. Managed to just about get everyone back but the realised I couldn't leave the mission early with all 6 guys (one wouldn't go inside the rectangle) so everyone was holding position at the evac zone and somehow we managed to blow all the enemies away as they charged at us. 'Good' rating on saving the civilians and no casualties (though a critical wound on one guy, lighter wounds on two others and after using all medpacks I had
on the mission).
Was so cool. I love this game.
Had a terror mission (forget where) and it was all Chrysalids. Managed to save about half the Civilians before shit got bad and the Chrysalids took out the last few survivors. I wanted to get everyone out (thought I could extract from the mission early by getting all 6 squad members to the jet) but on the way back things were getting bad. Lots of zombies and chrysalids charging. Managed to just about get everyone back but the realised I couldn't leave the mission early with all 6 guys (one wouldn't go inside the rectangle) so everyone was holding position at the evac zone and somehow we managed to blow all the enemies away as they charged at us. 'Good' rating on saving the civilians and no casualties (though a critical wound on one guy, lighter wounds on two others and after using all medpacks I had
on the mission).
Was so cool. I love this game.
D
Deleted member 30609
Unconfirmed Member
any general tips for dealing with panic levels on classic?
Metalmurphy
Member
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Deleted member 30609
Unconfirmed Member
Thats what they are, sheep for slaughtering. I find them probably the easiest to take out due to them running into a waiting ambush almost every time, that is why I called them Mutton. heh
lemonlyman
Member
So is there a consequence to skipping the main story missions grind the "random" missions? I mean can I put off the main missions to build for a while and then go back to the main story mission?
You'll get downgraded in your monthly reports, but nothing too serious if you're keeping panic down.
Incendiary
Banned
And enemies get tougher regardless of whether you continue on the story missions.
Which also means you get tougher story missions. But your tech should have progressed to match, more or less. Some tech is gated by story missions.
afreaknamedpete
Member
Do aliens hit a difficulty ceiling if you just sit around doing nothing, like say wait around for two years? Does it go like, 10 Sectopods per mission or something?
lemonlyman
Member
Thanks!
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Doesn't seem that way. In my last classic playthough, I waited over a year and a half until doing the last mission. Nothing changed. I'd scan for activity for nearly the whole month with nothing happening, too.
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
Anyone else unable to go to the main menu from saving an Ironman?
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
There are some times during the game, like when your skyranger is in midflight, for example, when you can't save the game. And since you have to save before you exit when playing Ironman, that would explain it.
GuitarAtomik
Member
I am super tempted to buy the elite pack. Someone talk me down from this ledge.
Dr_Boris_Goltz
Banned
I just would like to state that this game is wins the award for "most moments that require a fist pump".
I'm more surprised at how big the first patch was, considering it didn't fix much.
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
No, I can't exit at all.
They missed one I think. The cutscene of you bringing home the alien tech from Overseer mission was all pixelated for me.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Is it easier to prerender cutscenes like that rather than do it in realtime in-engine?
weekend_warrior
Banned
I have no money to buy anything, my entire squad was just wiped out, 3 countries are at 5 star panic, and it's only the 4th day of the second month. Fuck.
Metalmurphy
Member
Game over man. GAME OVER!
Ingame engine can't handle some off the effects. And some of the cutscenes are FMV so they can show different areas without loading.
bigdaddygamebot
Member
weekend_warrior
Banned
How exactly does base HP work? I was looking at the stats of my soldiers and my 2 squaddie supports have 5+1 HP, the squaddie snipers has 4+1, and all my rooks have 6+1. That doesn't seem to make any sense.
Basileus777
Member
Your starting soldiers' base HP is dependent on your difficulty, but new recruits always start with 6 base HP. And different classes gain HP at different rates when ranking up.
Starting base HP is:
Easy = 6
Normal = 5
Classic = 4
Impossible = 3
And new recruits get easy mode HP.