XCOM: Enemy Unknown |OT| Neo GAF is Under Alien Control
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Nope, here's what happened. Moved my guys up, to there first positions. First alien turn two crysallids come strolling through, one gets taken down to 3 hp and stands there right next to my medic, the other one jumps onto the roof of the building I had just moved up to.
Next turn I move my medic, shoot and miss the crysallid that is 5 feet away, move my shotgun assault right up to him and blow him away. Move everyone else back away from the building that now has the crysallid on it.
next turn, crysallid jumps down strolls across the parking lot and eviserates my laser rifle assault, 3 overwatch shots miss. There's no where to back up to, so I stand and fight, every.single.shot misses, even a bunch of 90+ percenters.
Next turn dead assault comes back as a zombie, crysallid eviserates my best heavy. Everyone else runs for the drop ship.
mission aborted.Lost Russia, France and Australia.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
What happens if you didn't kill it in a turn? I never let it live that long. Afterall it's useless to trying to capture it anyway.
KO Traveling Hobo
Member
Apparently
there are two other Ethereals in the room. Triple MC + high power psi attacks + the two Elite Mutons = probably not too fun.
Basileus777
Member
Having three units mind controlled in one turn is indeed not much fun. That happened on my impossible game, though I managed to win anyway.
CartridgeBlower
Member
What's the best way to play this game on a first playthrough? Just go with default/normal, or should I start with Ironman or Classic right away to get the most out of it?
well.. you could play normal non-ironman to learn the tropes after a couple hours and such, but id say ironman normal is the way to go for the real XCOM experience
Is the XP cumulative then? Like if I bring the squaddie would technically killed enough to get promoted twice, would s/he get promoted regardless of kills if I brought them along next mission?
Only 1 person lost on the alien base assault! Someone mentioned there should be better stats and sharing those stats, I would love to see it for that mission. I must have taken a million turns, squad moved like a phalanx.
Hopefully things will turn around now, classic ironman has been kicking my ass.
Hopefully things will turn around now, classic ironman has been kicking my ass.
Basileus777
Member
Yes, they'll be promoted after the next mission. The game just doesn't allow for 2 promotions at once.
SirIgbyCeaser
Banned
First Panic mission is going on, so far I've only lost one soldier. Still playing with my original 10. But damn this will be a tough one.
Canis lupus
Member
Castor Krieg
Banned
So I stunned Sectoid Commander, but the only bonus I got from interrogation was to Psionics. What gives PSI armor? Should I first get a single soldier with PSI abilities?
Also, my Assault just reached 28HP
Also, my Assault just reached 28HP
It's either that, or number of missions also counts for something. Looking at my memorial, certain, ahem, retired members with a higher number of kills were lower in rank than others because they weren't brought along on as many missions.
Also, the mission right after the alien base is fucking me over once again. There's just not enough of a gap there for my guys to heal, so it's 3 rookies out the door to face a landed large scout. Not to mention that I just started another month. There are probably heavy floaters and berserkers out there waiting for some rookies with carapace armor and a laser rifle.
Basileus777
Member
So I stunned Sectoid Commander, but the only bonus I got from interrogation was to Psionics. What gives PSI armor? Should I first get a single soldier with PSI abilities?
Also, my Assault just reached 28HP
PSI armor research is unlocked by
researching the Ethereal Device
The game just only allows for one promotion at a time. I've fooled around with modding the EXP requirements and tested it. You can set the EXP requirements for everything to 0 and you'll still only gain a rank a mission. The number of missions doesn't factor in as far as I can tell.
Castor Krieg
Banned
Basileus777
Member
Anecdotally, this isn't true. I did a run where I rushed through the main missions while prioritizing research and the enemy types were still limited despite doing well in terms of research. I believe it's a matter of time passed except in the case of a few enemy types that are triggered by story progress.
witchedwiz
Member
sighhhhh
played straight @ ironman nightmare..
first mission okayish..
I created a small elite team...
all was good...
went on an ufo recovery mission 3-4 hours into the game with 5 men...
my support, Marco Schiaffino, is flanked by two thin man, gets shoot (luckily he survives thanks to the officer training perk that transform death into critical wound) and fails a morale check, going berzerk and shooting a barrage.. crit on my sniper (Marco Natoli)! BOOM!...
4 men remaining..
the other two thin men...
well I miss 3 fucking shot with hit % ranging between 54 and 75.... and i'm like "DATASS"!
They gang up on Pippa Middleton, my english heavy..
3 men reamining.. (morale failed Marco Schiaffino, assault Vitonofrio del Rosso, support Andrea Campagna)
Pippa death cause a morale check into my toon, assault Vitonofrio del Rosso, goes all bazinga and shoots to death Marco Schiaffino (he had 2 life point left... the joy)....
2 men reamining.. (Andrea Campagna with turn active and Vitonofrio del Rosso that just killed one of my toon...)
Andrea Campagna kills one thin men and goes into cover!
More thin men arrive, totaling 3 sectoid and 3 thin men..
Alien turn, 3 gang up on the sorry Vitonofrio del Rosso and he dies...
The other aliens are all too far away to get a clean shot @ Andrea Campagna...
next turn Andrea with an act of courage charge the aliens taking down a thin man while on cover...
1 man reamining vs 5 alien remaining..
aliens are still too far, i kill another one, and they miss all the shots... LUCKY!
1 man vs 4 alien..
another alien down! they fuck up and waste two move to get near me!
1 man vs 3 alien..
i miss the alien... and this time no more luck for me, a thin man takes me to half life, the sectoid finishes me...
End of Squad Tango...
As for my usual Ironman run in the old xcom, when my squad dies it's the end!
On to another playthrough from the start tonight!
played straight @ ironman nightmare..
first mission okayish..
I created a small elite team...
all was good...
went on an ufo recovery mission 3-4 hours into the game with 5 men...
my support, Marco Schiaffino, is flanked by two thin man, gets shoot (luckily he survives thanks to the officer training perk that transform death into critical wound) and fails a morale check, going berzerk and shooting a barrage.. crit on my sniper (Marco Natoli)! BOOM!...
4 men remaining..
the other two thin men...
well I miss 3 fucking shot with hit % ranging between 54 and 75.... and i'm like "DATASS"!
They gang up on Pippa Middleton, my english heavy..
3 men reamining.. (morale failed Marco Schiaffino, assault Vitonofrio del Rosso, support Andrea Campagna)
Pippa death cause a morale check into my toon, assault Vitonofrio del Rosso, goes all bazinga and shoots to death Marco Schiaffino (he had 2 life point left... the joy)....
2 men reamining.. (Andrea Campagna with turn active and Vitonofrio del Rosso that just killed one of my toon...)
Andrea Campagna kills one thin men and goes into cover!
More thin men arrive, totaling 3 sectoid and 3 thin men..
Alien turn, 3 gang up on the sorry Vitonofrio del Rosso and he dies...
The other aliens are all too far away to get a clean shot @ Andrea Campagna...
next turn Andrea with an act of courage charge the aliens taking down a thin man while on cover...
1 man reamining vs 5 alien remaining..
aliens are still too far, i kill another one, and they miss all the shots... LUCKY!
1 man vs 4 alien..
another alien down! they fuck up and waste two move to get near me!
1 man vs 3 alien..
i miss the alien... and this time no more luck for me, a thin man takes me to half life, the sectoid finishes me...
End of Squad Tango...
As for my usual Ironman run in the old xcom, when my squad dies it's the end!
On to another playthrough from the start tonight!
Lord Phol
Member
I'm a bit late but damn is this game addicting and time consuming, pretty much spent my whole sunday kicking alien ass. Playing Normal Ironman and all ready had to restart once
, but this time I'm doing alot better.
The only thing worrying me is that I think I've researched the best armors and weapons
, but the aliens just keep getting more and more dangerous.
The game has actually gotten really scary now that I have some beefed up soldiers I want to protect and with the moody music and death around every corner. Not sure I'll dare moving on the Classic difficulty late. D:.
Oh and btw, what is "Will" and how is calculated?
I'm assuimg it has to do with people panicking or not.
getting raped when assaulting the first alien base
The only thing worrying me is that I think I've researched the best armors and weapons
Plasma rifle, archangel armor, titan armor
Mutons with plasma rifles doing 12 dmg crits, nasty heay floaters and those damn nades!
Oh and btw, what is "Will" and how is calculated?
I'm assuimg it has to do with people panicking or not.
Castor Krieg
Banned
Will effects whether the soldier will Panic, get MCed, or be able to develop PSI abilities. It increases every time a soldier reaches a higher rank and is a random number + fixed amount. So different soldiers will not be able to have the same Will at Colonel.
I have a Heavy Colonel with Will 99, I hope he will be able to develop PSI abilities (testing now).
As for aliens, I never had this problem on Classic Ironman, assaulted
Alien Base
Lord Phol
Member
Oh I see it does several things, hmm that upgrade might be worth buying then.
Aye medics are great, but the few who gets promoted too support ends up dying D:
Last one was killed by his own comrade who panicked and shot him (the support was mind controlled, which somehow freaked out my sniper who's never panicked before).
Yeah I guess most people are just rolling through normal like it's nothing, will just have to man up then!
Thanks!
electricpirate
Member
My Classic Ironman is at a turning point, 2 cols and all squaddies, but good tech and low on funds. Near the end of the month, 2 sats about to come online but I've got a panic reduction as a reward.
If I can capture a couple of thin men, to get a couple more light plasmas I can get about 1k in funds, that should really help before tackling the alien base.
If I can capture a couple of thin men, to get a couple more light plasmas I can get about 1k in funds, that should really help before tackling the alien base.
It was my first time playing with all "extra" stuff (Cinematic camera, unit speech, etc) turned off. And of course, that's when the car on fire catches fire.
Impeccable
Member
Okay, I'm done with this broken fucking game.
After ALL my previous problems I've posted, my new game which was going perfectly now has a bug where on a landed UFO mission, my squad has one member all other slots are empty problem is... ALL soliders are listed as 'On Mission' and I can't add any to the squad.
This game is flat out BROKEN, especially on PS3.
After ALL my previous problems I've posted, my new game which was going perfectly now has a bug where on a landed UFO mission, my squad has one member all other slots are empty problem is... ALL soliders are listed as 'On Mission' and I can't add any to the squad.
This game is flat out BROKEN, especially on PS3.
Don't know if this question's been posted somewhere in this monster thread, if so apologies.
Is it known how specialist classes are assigned? Like if my rookie kills an alien with a grenade, is he more likely to be promoted to a heavy or assault? Or will a long distance shot mean he's destined to be a sniper? Or is it completely random?
I'm still going through my first playthrough, sticking it out with game I started in the tutorial. The only survivor from that first mission was a heavy, and no recruits since then have been promoted to heavy. Got an additional one as a reward, but up until that point I'd been stuck with my lone heavy while having multiples of all other classes.
If there's a way to determine the outcome my rookies' classes, that would be great to know for my planned Classic Ironman run...
Is it known how specialist classes are assigned? Like if my rookie kills an alien with a grenade, is he more likely to be promoted to a heavy or assault? Or will a long distance shot mean he's destined to be a sniper? Or is it completely random?
I'm still going through my first playthrough, sticking it out with game I started in the tutorial. The only survivor from that first mission was a heavy, and no recruits since then have been promoted to heavy. Got an additional one as a reward, but up until that point I'd been stuck with my lone heavy while having multiples of all other classes.
If there's a way to determine the outcome my rookies' classes, that would be great to know for my planned Classic Ironman run...
weekend_warrior
Banned
Just had my first buggy mission. A few turns in the game got stuck on 'Alien Activity' and I had to quit and reset the game. I restarted the mission and a few turns before I completed it the sound cut out. Got back to the hub, saved and quit, restarted my PS3 and it locked up on the XMB.
It's random, the only consideration the game gives is to try and give you classes you don't already have, but it's still random.
It's random, the only consideration the game gives is to try and give you classes you don't already have, but it's still random.
Thanks for the quick response!
Guess I've just had some crappy luck when it comes to heavies.
I've had some bugs on 360, which is normal, since I've put A LOT of hours into this game, but nothing remotely coming close to ''fuck this game'' rage.
PS3 version might be more problematic.
As for an all Sniper team, here's my report:
My first attempt was a disaster. I tried putting 3 snipers on flight duty, spread across the bottom of the map. It didn't go very well.
My second attempt turned into this:
One Archangel Sniper with disabling shot and double tap, the classic sniper role for a regular team. No point in having more than one.
Two Scout Snipers, with Snap shot, gunslinger, sensor, in the zone, scopes and ghost armor. Before they reach Colonel, The pistol was the better choice 99% of the time. But in a clutch, being able to move cloaked and take a sniper shot might be the only move you have left in a turn. Since they can flank easely, I gave them In the Zone.
Three ''Sniper Ball'' Snipers, with squad sight, double tap, a mix of either sensors or disabling shot and ghost armor.
These guys follow the scouts, and take shots at whatever is discovered. Pretty basic. If a scout has discovered something and has to run back, they can toss a sensor to keep LOS. Ghost armor to get crit% when headshot is unavailable, for the grapple and to get in position without getting shot at to take a shot next turn at a dangerous unit like Sectopods.
6 snipers is far from perfect, but fun to try. No point in giving anything but scopes, since you don't want to miss any shot. That team suffers from lack of explosives, and high %ToHit and damage up close. SURPRISE MOTHERFUCKER! enemy groups that pop in the middle of your team can be a bitch.
PS3 version might be more problematic.
As for an all Sniper team, here's my report:
My first attempt was a disaster. I tried putting 3 snipers on flight duty, spread across the bottom of the map. It didn't go very well.
My second attempt turned into this:
One Archangel Sniper with disabling shot and double tap, the classic sniper role for a regular team. No point in having more than one.
Two Scout Snipers, with Snap shot, gunslinger, sensor, in the zone, scopes and ghost armor. Before they reach Colonel, The pistol was the better choice 99% of the time. But in a clutch, being able to move cloaked and take a sniper shot might be the only move you have left in a turn. Since they can flank easely, I gave them In the Zone.
Three ''Sniper Ball'' Snipers, with squad sight, double tap, a mix of either sensors or disabling shot and ghost armor.
These guys follow the scouts, and take shots at whatever is discovered. Pretty basic. If a scout has discovered something and has to run back, they can toss a sensor to keep LOS. Ghost armor to get crit% when headshot is unavailable, for the grapple and to get in position without getting shot at to take a shot next turn at a dangerous unit like Sectopods.
6 snipers is far from perfect, but fun to try. No point in giving anything but scopes, since you don't want to miss any shot. That team suffers from lack of explosives, and high %ToHit and damage up close. SURPRISE MOTHERFUCKER! enemy groups that pop in the middle of your team can be a bitch.
I have a somewhat odd question.
For the base view, there are three different music tracks called "Breaking Ground", "The Alien Underbelly" and
. These should, if the soundtrack filenames are right, corrospond the three acts of the game. But when do each of these start to play?
Breaking Ground is the first one, it's a slow song with a Mass Effect-ish beat. It plays in the beginning.
The Alien Underbelly lacks the quick beat except with some fading in and out sections. It also sounds a bit... spooky. I don't remember when this starts to play.
sounds significantly different from the other two. It plays after
and through to the end. It seems to me like this shouldn't trigger until, well,
, but it plays much earlier than that.
So anyone notice when the song changes from the first to the second?
For the base view, there are three different music tracks called "Breaking Ground", "The Alien Underbelly" and
"Arrival"
Breaking Ground is the first one, it's a slow song with a Mass Effect-ish beat. It plays in the beginning.
The Alien Underbelly lacks the quick beat except with some fading in and out sections. It also sounds a bit... spooky. I don't remember when this starts to play.
Arrival
The Alien Base
the arrival of the Temple Ship
So anyone notice when the song changes from the first to the second?
weekend_warrior
Banned
A sniper on high ground with Squadsight, Opportunist and Damn Good Ground is GODLY. Just racks up overwatch kills and crits.
Woo-Fu
Banned
I put scopes on heavies/snipers. Supports get medi+arc. Assault I mix it up based on the mission type.
I go for:
Early game: Grenades on everyone
Then,
Rookies: ARC
Snipers : Scope
Heavies: Scope
Support: Medikit, then ARC + Medikit, then Chitin+Medikit
Assault: Chitin
Castor Krieg
Banned
I don't bother most of the time if my Heavy carries 3 rockets.
Also, got new record in the amount of Will: fully buffed my Heavy is at 149. My Assault will be the same, just need to advance her to Colonel.
KO Traveling Hobo
Member
Same. Assaults usually end up with scopes, though.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
There are a couple things you can do to get even higher than that.
Hahaha. You cruel, cruel man.
afternoon delight
Member
Glad to know my grunts are not the only ones put through the "Arc and live" test.
So one my 4th try and 54 hours I finished Normal Ironman. It got pretty easy once I knew what to do, more linear than I thought it would be. In the end I ended up with everything researched and a full base. Is there any other incentive to replay other than the harder difficulties?
I'm going to attempt a Classic Ironman play through next.
I'm going to attempt a Classic Ironman play through next.
Metalmurphy
Member
Internet. It's just a simple combat mode. They give you 10000 points to choose soldiers/aliens, the better the soldiers are the more points they cost.
Use a controller, seriously. The bugs where the roof keeps appearing not letting you see anything and other stuff like that don't happen with a controller.
Incendiary
Banned
I do Snipers - > SCOPE
Heavy -> Frag/Alien Grenades
Support -> Medkits + Arc (once they get the dual item perk)
Assault ->Arc Thrower/Chitin (once support gets dual item perk)
And then my Mind Shield goes on whoever is my Psi guy.
I don't normally add SCOPE to my Heavies simply because I usually go with Holo-Targeting, so their options are shoot first and miss but add % shot for everyone else, shoot first and hit with a low % so everyone else can choose other targets, suppress since it doesn't require aim, or use an explosive and blow the enemies away.
No same console match? Too bad. Though i assume knowing the other player's unit positions would kinda ruin the mode?
Oh, well, this game looks kinda interesting and a couple of my and my brother's friends have recommended it.
Gotta see when i get time to get though, Halo 4 is going to eat the next few months of my life.
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