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I didn't bother with Mechon Weapons for this exact reason till the "Mech Blade II" ones.
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Xenoblade 3D |OT| Is that a Monado in your pocket or are you just really feeling it?
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I didn't bother with Mechon Weapons for this exact reason till the "Mech Blade II" ones.
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
I always mention that, but people never listen because "it's annoying to use enchant" or "I don't want to use Shulk."
Why wouldn't anyone not want to use Shulk? That's like not wanting to use Cloud in FF7.
I got passed the Ether Mines and am now exploring the Satorl Marshes. Artwork and music is beautiful. Now I have to find the 4 offerings for the Coming of Age ceremony.
Storyline is starting to get very interesting. As soon as Dickson left the party he said something to the effect
I didn't tell these kids what they're getting into
Adam Prime
hates soccer, is Mexican
I totally agree. It was that scene that set the mood for the rest of the game, the voice actor really delivers that line with the kind of conviction that completely sells the game to you.
Snacks the sober sea lion
Member
It's not bad, but the constant foreshadowing via "character turns back to group and mutters something" gets tedious.
I beat the game like 3 times already (the original japanese release + the european release twice) and can't praise whoever did those cut scenes enough. magnificent directing indeed.
EVA UNIT 01
Member
Im on my first run and im at the final 2 areas.
After all this ive pretty much grinded/brute forced my way through and only had trouble on one boss.
Im sure the answer is auras and gems but without sharla how exactly am i expected to restore hp?
I just dont have the time like i used to to invest the 100+ hrs to master all systems like i used to so ive just always used sharla.
prison island and space
Im sure the answer is auras and gems but without sharla how exactly am i expected to restore hp?
I just dont have the time like i used to to invest the 100+ hrs to master all systems like i used to so ive just always used sharla.
depends on the team you're using and the character you're playing yourself
I'm on my 4th play-through and decided to go without shulk, sharla or gem crafting this time. so far it's been going smoothly.
I'm sure this has been pointed out many times by now, but I'll just point it out again: if you focus on agility, healing becomes pretty much unnecessary. The only damage you'll receive with a high agility party is either ether or spike based - and countering those isn't so hard either (again, depending on your party)
I've you still want a dedicated healer, I'd recommend Riki instead of Sharla as his healing spell is pretty good with fast cool down and great area of effect. Also he is way more reliable in chain attacks and does a whole lot more damage than Sharla.
sometimes I wish you could run 1-member parties... would love to try beating the game with only one character :7
Heavy focus on Agility to dodge tank.
Reyn/Dunban as dedicated tank with smart use of Last Stand/Jaws of Death.
Aura heal gems.
Double Attack + Haste gems, combined with Seven's "All Double Attacks Crit" and Dunban's "All Crits Heal" skills.
Couple of ways to heal up, in addition to having the lighter heals of Shulk/Riki is more than enough when combined with CC (Topple/Paralyze/Daze/Sleep chains to greatly reduce enemy damage output).
Wow, thanks for the heads up, just ordered!
Android18a
Member
I snapped this up for £20 at TGC a few weeks ago. I still don't have the money to buy a New 3DS though...
Luckily I played it through on Wii twice. Love this game so much. Can't wait to pick up a cheap New 3DS when the next Nintendo handheld comes out.
Luckily I played it through on Wii twice. Love this game so much. Can't wait to pick up a cheap New 3DS when the next Nintendo handheld comes out.
Really? I must be over half way though surely?
depends... do you intend to ignore anything but the main story? than I'd say about another
20 to 25 hours
but in my opinion, rushing games to meet some sort of arbitrary deadline isn't a very good reason to play in the first place...
barely...
I'd advice using your remaining hours to get accustomed to playing as melia and/or riki. Having one or two ether users in your party will make the last 5 hours of the game way easier..
By playing as them do you mean having them in my team or actually maining them as I have only used Shulk as my leader so far.
Thequietone
Member
Melia NEEDS to be controlled as her ai sucks but she can kick ass if a player controls her.
Bardiche
Member
I've been playing this game since it's launch on the n3DS and I'm loving it; I still haven't started Devil Survivor 2 Record Breaker because of this.
Based on what people are saying, Sharla is the worst party member in the game. For some reason, I'm not a huge fan of Melia and Riki, and I like sticking with my team of Shulk, Dunban, and Sharla.
Would it be too difficult sticking with this team throughout the whole game?
Based on what people are saying, Sharla is the worst party member in the game. For some reason, I'm not a huge fan of Melia and Riki, and I like sticking with my team of Shulk, Dunban, and Sharla.
Would it be too difficult sticking with this team throughout the whole game?
Not at all, the story line events is very laid back as far as difficulty is concerned.
Bardiche
Member
Great, then I'm going to stick with this team. Thanks!
EVA UNIT 01
Member
Finally beat the game this morning at like 5am.
Great ride and i definitely see why it was so praised.
Only negatives i can think of are:
Last boss was a joke
Dialogue in the final scenes was pretty cheesy and power of friendshippy in an eye rolling way.
Thats it, everything else was just great.
Great ride and i definitely see why it was so praised.
Only negatives i can think of are:
Last boss was a joke
Dialogue in the final scenes was pretty cheesy and power of friendshippy in an eye rolling way.
Thats it, everything else was just great.
Ok, for real, did the move around Seven's art manuals for this port? I remember being able to get Speed Shift and Air Fang at lvl 5 commerce Colony 6 but none of the merchants are selling that book. I've quintuple-checked.
And then Double Wind isn't in the Hidden Village like the Wiki says it is. Where TF is this girl's art books at?
And then Double Wind isn't in the Hidden Village like the Wiki says it is. Where TF is this girl's art books at?
mrmickfran
Member
Thequietone
Member
There is that one boss late in the game that does require an ether based attacker.
There is one boss later that you'll need an ether attacker for, but your party should be fine until then as your party gets exp too, just not as much.
as others have pointed out, you'll most likely encounter a difficulty spike towards the end, but overcoming that is far from impossible, it may be a little bit frustrating though without any ether users.
the reason why I would personally encourage you to try other party combinations is simple:
I think it makes the game and it's battle systems way more interesting. the other party members have so much more to offer in terms of game play and playing styles, sticking to 3/7ths of what the game has to offer always felt like a huge waste to me
but in the end, it's up to you.
At least give playing as reyn a shot, that's also kinda fun
TheGreatLugia
Banned
I just finished playing the port earlier today. I think the Wii version is the definitive release, but the New 3DS version is a solid substitute for anyone that can't play the Wii version. It's also really cool having the game on a handheld. It's a bit weird how 5 or so cutscenes are ripped straight from the Wii version, though. They look really out of place.
StarStabbedMoon
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The last boss is kind of easy, especially compared to other late game content, but I think they still did a great job with the presentation and atmosphere of the encounter. It felt intense to me even though the combat itself wasn't.
Completely agree on the latter.
Freedom = $1.05
Banned
as someone who skipped almost every side quest in the game, The last boss took me well over an hour, possibly 2 hours.
But i suppose that's my bad really.
But i suppose that's my bad really.
Rollo Lawson
Banned
Incredibly helpful OT. I'm approaching 3 hours in, about to go into what I'm guessing is my first dungeon...
. Only mistake I've made so far is selling my entire haul upon entering district 9. I think I can manage still. I'm loving the game so far...
Tephra Cave
I had the same issue lol.
So I just finished this game (53 hours).
It's not without its problems (side quests, felt very grindy towards the end) but it was a hell of a ride. A great story and one of the most likeable casts in a JRPG (I think the British VO helps, hopefully X has it too but I doubt it).
. I also found Shulk to be a welcome change of pace from your usual protagonist.
The OST really is one of the best too.
It's not without its problems (side quests, felt very grindy towards the end) but it was a hell of a ride. A great story and one of the most likeable casts in a JRPG (I think the British VO helps, hopefully X has it too but I doubt it).
Melia is a remarkably strong character considering the amount of turmoil she has to deal with
The OST really is one of the best too.
Think I hit that Brock wall and the point where I need Ether users? Is it doable without? I'm at level 75 currently, is that enough or should I grind some more?
Ok, I apologise for the double post but In stating to loose the will in my fight with
. The whole of my party are at level 75 and I've tried several combinations but can't take more than 1/8 of her health away. Can't seem to find a definite answer online as to what to do. Can anyone help?
Disciple Latharia
At my very first play through (summer 2010, Japanese Version, 0 English guides available) I was able to brute-force my way through, so it's absolutely doable.
As I said, having Riki and/or Melia would make it waaaaay easier through...
and don't forget to regroup you party if they get pushed into the acid (R+down)
edit: which party are you using right now?
edit2: here is what you do, basically:
make sure your party got the best gear available to you equipped, don't forget to buy art books and to level up the arts you need.
my party advice would be Melia (player), 7th and Riki. Melia should get a few electric plus and ether gems.
during the fight she summons 4 nebula, kill only 3 of them to avoid her summoning 4 new ones. as long as those nebula are alive, lorithia will be protected by some kind of either shield, so you'll want to get rid of at least 3 of them.
arts...
for melia summon bolt, summon copy, summon fire, maybe summon wind, spear break, starlight kick and hypnosis (mostly for breaking visions), either mind blast or reflection (against visions)
for riki the 4 damage over time spells (poison, ice, fire and bleed) - I don't know how they are called in English. also his healing spell and... maybe hero time?
for 7th... I guess 2nd gear, and everything that looks like it could do some serious damage
if you don't know how to play Melia properly, I found this old guide on gaf. it's still pretty useful:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=34985554&postcount=16970
(you can also use shulk instead of 7th if you don't feel confident about dealing with visions without him)
for melia summon bolt, summon copy, summon fire, maybe summon wind, spear break, starlight kick and hypnosis (mostly for breaking visions), either mind blast or reflection (against visions)
for riki the 4 damage over time spells (poison, ice, fire and bleed) - I don't know how they are called in English. also his healing spell and... maybe hero time?
for 7th... I guess 2nd gear, and everything that looks like it could do some serious damage
if you don't know how to play Melia properly, I found this old guide on gaf. it's still pretty useful:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=34985554&postcount=16970
(you can also use shulk instead of 7th if you don't feel confident about dealing with visions without him)
arts...
for melia summon bolt, summon copy, summon fire, maybe summon wind, spear break, starlight kick and hypnosis (mostly for breaking visions), either mind blast or reflection (against visions)
for riki the 4 damage over time spells (poison, ice, fire and bleed) - I don't know how they are called in English. also his healing spell and... maybe hero time?
for 7th... I guess 2nd gear, and everything that looks like it could do some serious damage
if you don't know how to play Melia properly, I found this old guide on gaf. it's still pretty useful:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=34985554&postcount=16970
(you can also use shulk instead of 7th if you don't feel confident about dealing with visions without him)
Perfect, just beat it! It turns out I had no idea how to play as Melia, your selection of Arts and that Link worked a treat! I'm guessing I should be fine to go back to my Shulk, Reyn, Dunban combo for the rest of the game?
Am I in the home stretch now?
i suppose there is nothing stopping you from going back to your old team. although, an ether-user could make fights easier, there is nothing quite like... meaning your team shouldn't encounter any further problems along the waylorithia
enjoy the home stretch
Had a problem last night with
the dragon
Thanks again for your help!
For future references, you don't really need grinding.
Just take it sloowly. Take a defensive team, use purge, stack spike def gems and you're good to go.
Just levelled up one level and was good to go. Speaking of which, I have just started the
fight and notice that I am past the point of no return and can't save. I'm sitting at level 79, is this likely to be a problem for me? That boss also seems to own me but I haven't had many shots at it!
Dickson
Freedom = $1.05
Banned
i beat it with 2 79s and an 80. It took a while on the final fight (several retries, probably more than an hour to finish it) but it's totally doable.