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Xenoblade Chronicles X: Definitive Edition – The year is 2054… (Nintendo Switch)

begotten

Member
Feels like this is not treated like a major release.

Shouldn't matter I would have thought. Monolith Soft games have had these big box physical releases since Xenosaga on PS2.

It's not like major first party releases got them on Switch. Bayonetta, Astral Chain and Metroid Dread and a couple of FE games off the top of my head also got them but they're nothing special.
 
Never got the chance to place this on Wii U. Does it connect to the main XC series or is it more a thematic link, like the other Xeno series games?
 

DonkeyPunchJr

World’s Biggest Weeb
weird take. Aren’t WiiUs dead after so many years?

Also how many WiiUs are even out there?

It’s completely different when the other companies release remasters every generation. When they had the best selling consoles.

This is a pretty unique scenario and I guess if you want to just lump it into no remasters that’s fine but to a lot of people that didn’t own a WiiU and have been into the Switch and the series this seems like a great thing.

The DE of XC1 was a big improvement and much needed. It wasn’t just the visual and performance enhancements.

This game looks to be a lot more playable and a much improved UI. Not to mention it is also now on a portable system.
It was the biggest and most ambitious Wii U title that really pushed the system to its limits. It still looks ridiculously good today (and has massive open environments that put many newer open world games to shame). Barely anybody got to experience it thanks to being released on a failed console, plus the series’ popularity has massively increased since then. And it has new content, it’s not just a remaster.

Easily worth $60 or more.
 

chakadave

Member
It was the biggest and most ambitious Wii U title that really pushed the system to its limits. It still looks ridiculously good today (and has massive open environments that put many newer open world games to shame). Barely anybody got to experience it thanks to being released on a failed console, plus the series’ popularity has massively increased since then. And it has new content, it’s not just a remaster.

Easily worth $60 or more.
I agree and I like the looks of this game. It’s artistic functional and gets the job done.
 

Herr Edgy

Member
weird take. Aren’t WiiUs dead after so many years?

Also how many WiiUs are even out there?

It’s completely different when the other companies release remasters every generation. When they had the best selling consoles.

This is a pretty unique scenario and I guess if you want to just lump it into no remasters that’s fine but to a lot of people that didn’t own a WiiU and have been into the Switch and the series this seems like a great thing.

The DE of XC1 was a big improvement and much needed. It wasn’t just the visual and performance enhancements.

This game looks to be a lot more playable and a much improved UI. Not to mention it is also now on a portable system.
weird take
What does it matter to me whether someone else did or did not own a Wii U? What does some electronics lifespan matter? This is not some kind of preservation effort. This is a remaster for 60$.
The point is that a remaster is a slight lift compared to the gargantuan effort that a new game represents, so not being willing to pay 60$ or whatever seems like a reasonable position.
I will pay that for very few games I really care about but not because I believe the money is necessarily worth it comparing it to the original release.

I'm not fond of XCX at all so I don't have an interest in playing it again. Whatever story they have added doesn't make up for the fact they didn't restore the originally intended story with a proper protagonist.
I might get it still because it's dope having the entire collection on a single platform, so only for collector purposes. That and I can make it a tax deduction :messenger_relieved:
 
pick one? Lol I'm not fucking paying full price FOR ANY FUCKING REMASTER lol

I like the game and its easily the best Wii U game imho, that doesn't mean I'm fucking spending $60 on a remaster

I've never done that prior, I won't do that here either.

A full remake, yes, a whole ass collection (like all game, 100%)

JUST a remaster pay the exact same price? yea...I don't know about all that lol

A lot of great games released 10 years ago, I'm telling you sir...even a game I'd give game of the year 10 years ago, I'm not fucking spending FULL PRICE solely on a remaster, that is remake pricing right there lol This is no a judgement on the game, merely that no matter how much someone likes its, it still a remaster from 10 years ago in which a publisher is trying to force a full price on something most publishers sell below full price.

Join the club man. Nintendo got $120 from me for Mario kart 8, so I could have it on the switch. I don’t remember the outage seven years ago, so I doubt why there’s any now.
 

EDMIX

Writes a lot, says very little
it’s not just a remaster.

Easily worth $60 or more.
...nah, this just a remaster lol

How the title is seen by you emotionally doesn't change that this is just a remaster...

This whole weird ass bucket of tears argument can be made for any fucking game, thats like me saying this about any remaster from 10 years ago and bring up some new content, bring up that the last system failed, THUS Uncharted golden abyss IS NOT "just" a REMASTER!

Vita Failed, thus worth it
new character skin, thus worth it broz

I'm not saying someone can't like a fucking game, but fandom or the last system failing doesn't actually support really any remaster being full price, its merely you personal justification why you are ok supporting cash grabs depending on the IP, please keep that same fucking energy the next time a publisher remasters something you happen to not like lol
weird take
What does it matter to me whether someone else did or did not own a Wii U? What does some electronics lifespan matter? This is not some kind of preservation effort. This is a remaster for 60$.
This.


I think that supports the remaster existing and I 100% agree with it if thats what they mean, I don't know about it being full price though, this is still a remaster being sold for full price lol

Full price imho should only be reserved for actual full FUCKING REMAKES, not someone just throwing in some DLC esk extras, res bump and then act as if that is now magically worth full price lol That is a bit wild and even as someone that likes this IP and owns the original, I can't support full price cash grab like this when its clear this is something generally released at a lower price as clearly they didn't fucking spend 100 million and 5 years making this shit for anyone to believe its actually just to charge full price.
 

DonkeyPunchJr

World’s Biggest Weeb
...nah, this just a remaster lol

How the title is seen by you emotionally doesn't change that this is just a remaster...

This whole weird ass bucket of tears argument can be made for any fucking game, thats like me saying this about any remaster from 10 years ago and bring up some new content, bring up that the last system failed, THUS Uncharted golden abyss IS NOT "just" a REMASTER!

Vita Failed, thus worth it
new character skin, thus worth it broz

I'm not saying someone can't like a fucking game, but fandom or the last system failing doesn't actually support really any remaster being full price, its merely you personal justification why you are ok supporting cash grabs depending on the IP, please keep that same fucking energy the next time a publisher remasters something you happen to not like lol

This.


I think that supports the remaster existing and I 100% agree with it if thats what they mean, I don't know about it being full price though, this is still a remaster being sold for full price lol

Full price imho should only be reserved for actual full FUCKING REMAKES, not someone just throwing in some DLC esk extras, res bump and then act as if that is now magically worth full price lol That is a bit wild and even as someone that likes this IP and owns the original, I can't support full price cash grab like this when its clear this is something generally released at a lower price as clearly they didn't fucking spend 100 million and 5 years making this shit for anyone to believe its actually just to charge full price.

We all know you’d gladly pay $120 for it if it had characters that looked like this:


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I've been starting to get excited to play this game again. When it was first announced I just thought. "Eh, I can play it on my Wii U" but it looks like there's a pretty decent amount of new content and QOL upgrades.

I think the thing that is lost on a lot of people that never played it is how multi tiered and dense the open world is with little nooks and crannies to explore. The sense of meaningful scale in X is something I can't remember experiencing since. The way it's paced is really great too, you end up getting your first skell around 30ish hours in, that allows you to access TONS of areas that weren't available on foot, then another 20 or so hours later you get the flight module and again, countless areas open up for exploration. Plenty of the areas don't have much outside of a few unique enemies, but some of them have some truly crazy shit that comes out of nowhere.
 

Danjin44

The nicest person on this forum
I've been starting to get excited to play this game again. When it was first announced I just thought. "Eh, I can play it on my Wii U" but it looks like there's a pretty decent amount of new content and QOL upgrades.

I think the thing that is lost on a lot of people that never played it is how multi tiered and dense the open world is with little nooks and crannies to explore. The sense of meaningful scale in X is something I can't remember experiencing since. The way it's paced is really great too, you end up getting your first skell around 30ish hours in, that allows you to access TONS of areas that weren't available on foot, then another 20 or so hours later you get the flight module and again, countless areas open up for exploration. Plenty of the areas don't have much outside of a few unique enemies, but some of them have some truly crazy shit that comes out of nowhere.
I don’t think any JRPG can match open world design of Xenoblade X.

I have some little nick picks against Xenoblade X but it’s open world design and the way of its traversal in open world is masterful.
 

EDMIX

Writes a lot, says very little
I don’t think any JRPG can match open world design of Xenoblade X.

I have some little nick picks against Xenoblade X but it’s open world design and the way of its traversal in open world is masterful.

Same.

I probably look forward to that and the combat more then anything else. I didn't really care for the story, but shit I don't care about most JRPG stories lol

I liked Xenosaga's overall concept and some what liked the story, but the plot itself wasn't the deepest I recall from the PS2 era I'd love a remaster collection of those 3 games.
 
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Kataploom

Gold Member
That just means more people to do the cash grab with, that doesn't justify this price.

I'm one of the few that even own a Wii U and own this original version and get that this game will likely move more units as a Switch game and I'm still saying this price is nuts as its still a remaster

Even GOTY versions with all content generally are not sold at full price. I'm not against the remaster, I think it 100% should exist, will grow the install base and fuck no am I replaying that Wii U version lol

Merely that I don't feel this should be full price and it feels like Nintendo is merely taken advantage of their install base

This is not a never for me, merely not a day 1 at this price.
The price is justified by "are you willing to pay for it", if not, then it's not worth it for you.
 

naguanatak

Member
Still haven't finished XC1
Barely played XC2
Didn't even get XC3 yet
Already preordered this one

Sigh...

I bought XC1 for the WiiU, tried two or three times to get into it, never made it beyond 10 hours.
Bought XCX for the WiiU, tried two times, 10 hours the first time, about 15 hours the second time.
Sold the WiiU.
Bought the Definitive Edition of XC1 on Switch, started and made it about 15 hours, started a second time, only to quit after roughly 60 hours.
In between I rebought a WiiU and tried to get into XCX again, quit after about 35 hours. Sold both the console and the game to a co worker.
Bought XC2 at release, played for a staggering 90 hours, but quit because I couldnt get past the boss fight in chapter 7.
Bought XC3 at release, played for roughly 50 hours and quit.

A long hiatus... In November '24 I loaded up my XC1DE save and finished the game, felt very nice and fulfilling even though I forgot most of the plot so I just watched a summary on YouTube up to the point I was at in the game.
Finished the DLC.
Started XC2 again from Scratch, I'm at 60 hours in chapter 8... Then I move onto the DLC.

These are juggernaut games, and usually I lose interest after a couple dozen hours in a game, but after finishing 1 + DLC and now almost through XC2, there is nothing quite like it. The worlds they build, the characters, lore... Monolith Soft for me are a day one developer now.
This franchise seemed always interesting to me, but intimidating at the same time.


I don't know yet if I will attempt 3 again or play X on Switch (2) first. X has the better world for me, but the battle system in 3 is just more comfortable, we'll see.
 

OuterLimits

Member
Still haven't finished XC1
Barely played XC2
Didn't even get XC3 yet
Already preordered this one

Sigh...

I can sympathize. I'm playing XC 1 DE now actually and about halfway I think. Played 10 hours of XC2, and own but haven't played XC3. Plus I hear the expansions on both 2 and 3 are very good, so I will eventually get those.

I did play 50 hours of Xeno X on Wii U but never finished. Like you, I will be buying X on Day 1. Lol
 

Kataploom

Gold Member
weird take
What does it matter to me whether someone else did or did not own a Wii U? What does some electronics lifespan matter? This is not some kind of preservation effort. This is a remaster for 60$.
The point is that a remaster is a slight lift compared to the gargantuan effort that a new game represents, so not being willing to pay 60$ or whatever seems like a reasonable position.
I will pay that for very few games I really care about but not because I believe the money is necessarily worth it comparing it to the original release.

I'm not fond of XCX at all so I don't have an interest in playing it again. Whatever story they have added doesn't make up for the fact they didn't restore the originally intended story with a proper protagonist.
I might get it still because it's dope having the entire collection on a single platform, so only for collector purposes. That and I can make it a tax deduction :messenger_relieved:
There's no morally correct thing on the release of remasters, this is business, no some kind of honor driven thing... If you don't like it, don't buy it, that's it, nothing wrong or correct regarding it lol
 

Herr Edgy

Member
There's no morally correct thing on the release of remasters, this is business, no some kind of honor driven thing... If you don't like it, don't buy it, that's it, nothing wrong or correct regarding it lol
And it's your job to represent the role of the consumer, not be a corporate bootlicker that eats up anything because it's *reasonable from a company's perspective*

Buy the game for 60$ because you want to, not because 'it's ok because corporations make money!'
 
Never played more than 20 hours or so on Wii U... I really want to try to give this game another shot but goddamn some of that music is awful. JP dub will def help, but I'll just wait and see how it shapes out. Going to wait for Switch 2 at the least.
 

Kataploom

Gold Member
And it's your job to represent the role of the consumer, not be a corporate bootlicker that eats up anything because it's *reasonable from a company's perspective*

Buy the game for 60$ because you want to, not because 'it's ok because corporations make money!'
You guys see everything from an emotional glass lol, they just want to sell something, nobody wants to personally harm you and make fun of you or whatever, you're acting like those who buy it commit in a sin that will F us all collectively 😂
 

Herr Edgy

Member
You guys see everything from an emotional glass lol, they just want to sell something, nobody wants to personally harm you and make fun of you or whatever, you're acting like those who buy it commit in a sin that will F us all collectively 😂
Nah let me make you some picture


I'm not emotional at all, feel free to buy the game if it's worth 60$ to you, but do *not* ever let your corporatism make you move to the right
Understanding someone does not mean you should be more likely to tolerate their proposition
 

DonkeyPunchJr

World’s Biggest Weeb
ikr nothing actually on topic -_-
I don’t know what else to say. I gave a bunch of reasons why I think it’s well worth the $60, your counter argument is “yeah but it’s a remaster”. OK. If you’re fine with passing on one of the best JRPGs of the last decade because it exceeds your price limit for what can be asked for a remaster, that’s your choice.
 

Kataploom

Gold Member
Nah let me make you some picture


I'm not emotional at all, feel free to buy the game if it's worth 60$ to you, but do *not* ever let your corporatism make you move to the right
Understanding someone does not mean you should be more likely to tolerate their proposition

Value is relative tho. For example:

I'll always prefer a minimal graphically upgraded remaster (hell, just improve the IQ and maybe the UX), so they're literally giving me what I want, because from my perspective, they tend to ruin the look of a game more often than not for the games I like. Examples of games I consider artistically downgraded: WWHD, DeS Remaster, Pokemon Mystery Dungeon remake, FFX remaster.

So I appreciate they don't touch that too much and just changed the characters design, the only thing I wanted them to change because to me Xenoblade series has the most beautiful anime art in gaming.

I would have preferred they went with a more Xenoblade DE to 3 art direction in general but I can see how PBR can push the Switch and production pipeline too much in this game specifically.
 

Herr Edgy

Member
Value is relative tho. For example:

I'll always prefer a minimal graphically upgraded remaster (hell, just improve the IQ and maybe the UX), so they're literally giving me what I want, because from my perspective, they tend to ruin the look of a game more often than not for the games I like. Examples of games I consider artistically downgraded: WWHD, DeS Remaster, Pokemon Mystery Dungeon remake, FFX remaster.

So I appreciate they don't touch that too much and just changed the characters design, the only thing I wanted them to change because to me Xenoblade series has the most beautiful anime art in gaming.

I would have preferred they went with a more Xenoblade DE to 3 art direction in general but I can see how PBR can push the Switch and production pipeline too much in this game specifically.
Yes and that's all absolutely fine
The point is that you should determine the value from a consumer's perspective and not from a corporation-sympathizing viewpoint.

There is no reason to vilify corporations, but if your mindset is 'I am more likely to accept selfish propositions from corporations because it's natural that they are selfish' you are actively undermining your own power in the equation.
The common understanding of economics of supply and demand means the market will settle in a position that satisfies both suppliers and receivers, but if the receivers position themselves where the supplier wins out, you are moving the line of what's acceptable, basically the overton window, towards the corporation.
 

Kataploom

Gold Member
Yes and that's all absolutely fine
The point is that you should determine the value from a consumer's perspective and not from a corporation-sympathizing viewpoint.

There is no reason to vilify corporations, but if your mindset is 'I am more likely to accept selfish propositions from corporations because it's natural that they are selfish' you are actively undermining your own power in the equation.
The common understanding of economics of supply and demand means the market will settle in a position that satisfies both suppliers and receivers, but if the receivers position themselves where the supplier wins out, you are moving the line of what's acceptable, basically the overton window, towards the corporation.
Yeah, a very emotional pov, it's not that they're giving me what I want, but that I'm "signing a dishonoring deal with the evil and I should be ashamed" lol.

I'll leave it here, I'll get it anyway, most probably when Switch 2 comes out.

And I'll keep believing the same thing I said before, this game has potential to be one of the best seller Xenoblade games, considering how much noise it is making, the online features and the possibility of it having an upgrade on Switch 2.
 

NanaMiku

Member
How's the online in this game, BTW? Is it like Monster Hunter, Dark Souls, or more like an MMORPG?
Both actually lol.

In the main game, 32 players are loosely connected. There's an extra mission that is shared between players, e.g., kill x monster, gather y items.
There's also a mission-based quest in the main city. In this mode, up to 4 players can play together to beat certain monsters. A lot of strong/extra bosses are in this mode

 

Kataploom

Gold Member
Both actually lol.

In the main game, 32 players are loosely connected. There's an extra mission that is shared between players, e.g., kill x monster, gather y items.
There's also a mission-based quest in the main city. In this mode, up to 4 players can play together to beat certain monsters. A lot of strong/extra bosses are in this mode


Looks great to me, is pairing done randomly or you could play with your friends?
 

Kataploom

Gold Member
For the 32 players? I think you can pair with your friends.

Here's a complete detail from Reddit:

Looks like online is very detailed, maybe the reason Monolith didn't port it before wasn't the open world but having to reimplement and support online
 

delishcaek

Member
Looks like online is very detailed, maybe the reason Monolith didn't port it before wasn't the open world but having to reimplement and support online
Takashi always blamed it on money. So my guess is Nintendo just didn't green light a port but now with XB2 having been very successful and XB3 not doing that bad either, they got the green light for the port.
"Well, the future at present is unclear," Takahashi says, which is the same answer I received when I ask about the possibility of a Xenoblade Chronicles 3. "Personally speaking, I'd love to play the game on the Switch, but it would be really difficult to make it."

When it comes to roadblocks that stand in the way of Xenoblade Chronicles X on the Switch, Takahashi's answer is simple.

"Money," he laughs. "It's a massive game. Re-creating it would be really difficult."

I mean they have to rework all the gamepad features and make the game playable on one screen, add the online functionality (porting from Miiverse to whatever Nintendo is using now) and yeah I can see how this port isn't just a simple copy paste job.
 

NanaMiku

Member
Takashi always blamed it on money. So my guess is Nintendo just didn't green light a port but now with XB2 having been very successful and XB3 not doing that bad either, they got the green light for the port.


I mean they have to rework all the gamepad features and make the game playable on one screen, add the online functionality (porting from Miiverse to whatever Nintendo is using now) and yeah I can see how this port isn't just a simple copy paste job.
I believe Xenoblade has become one of Nintendo's top-tier franchises. Monolith Soft also elevates Nintendo with BOTW/TOTK, Animal Crossing, and Splatoon. That's why they finally green-lit it.
 

Kataploom

Gold Member
Takashi always blamed it on money. So my guess is Nintendo just didn't green light a port but now with XB2 having been very successful and XB3 not doing that bad either, they got the green light for the port.


I mean they have to rework all the gamepad features and make the game playable on one screen, add the online functionality (porting from Miiverse to whatever Nintendo is using now) and yeah I can see how this port isn't just a simple copy paste job.
Yeah, ultimately it would summarize as "we need money" but the reasons I guess have to do with online and not only the open world which already is big enough
 

Herr Edgy

Member
Looks like online is very detailed, maybe the reason Monolith didn't port it before wasn't the open world but having to reimplement and support online
Don't get blinded by descriptions, unless I missed something and they vastly reworked online multiplayer.
You are not playing with people out in the world. 32 player 'loosely connected' refers to some passive multiplayer thing you don't have control over and you won't see those people doing things in the world and you can't run around together in the open world.
It's not an MMORPG and its online mode isn't worth much.
The actual multiplayer is the 4 player mission based structure, and you get put into an arena of sorts with a bunch of mobs that people clear in seconds because the metagame is pretty broken.
Basically the multiplayer combat ends up being shorter than the time it takes for you to join one of these missions, that goes for many (not all) of them.
It's a side mode that works very clumsily and is separate from the open world. It's not an online game. It's a singleplayer game with an online mode.
 

EDMIX

Writes a lot, says very little
I don’t know what else to say. I gave a bunch of reasons why
you gave a series of pictures to go off topic.... so...that doesn't sound like "reasons" lol
OK. If you’re fine with passing on one of the best JRPGs of the last decade
I own the fucking game on Wii U lol On the very post you replied on, it literally states I own it.... (but you have to read post to this this so.....yeah)

I even state I'll buy it used, on sale etc
XCX Definitive Edition is 22% off on Amazon.es. 👀 There may be similar pre-order discounts in other regions.

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Just prove your point invalid DonkeyPunchJr DonkeyPunchJr I'll even buy this version if it can be shipped to me and the discount actually worth it.

No clue where the fuck you hear I was looking to not play it lol

Read the actual post instead of always looking to pick fights on here, I have no issues with the game, full price however, on ANY remaster is questionable
 
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DonkeyPunchJr

World’s Biggest Weeb
you gave a series of pictures to go off topic.... so...that doesn't sound like "reasons" lol

I own the fucking game on Wii U lol On the very post you replied on, it literally states I own it.... (but you have to read post to this this so.....yeah)

I even state I'll buy it used, on sale etc



Just prove your point invalid DonkeyPunchJr DonkeyPunchJr I'll even buy this version if it can be shipped to me and the discount actually worth it.

No clue where the fuck you hear I was looking to not play it lol

Read the actual post instead of always looking to pick fights on here, I have no issues with the game, full price however, on ANY remaster is questionable
“But it’s a remaster!”

Ok dude we heard you loud and clear. Would you please respond with another wall of text that nobody will read?
 

Danjin44

The nicest person on this forum
I don’t know why you guys still arguing about this? If some of you guys think it’s not worth the price then simply don’t buy it, that simple.

There lot of people waiting for Xenoblade X to come to switch and Monolith Soft not only improved the character models and UI and also giving us extra chapter, to most us that’s worth asking price.
 
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EDMIX

Writes a lot, says very little
that nobody will read?
you have to know how to read first = ) Sounds like a dodge cause the fucking post doesn't support what you claimed huh?

I don’t know why you guys still arguing about this? If some of you guys think it’s not worth the price then simply don’t buy it, that simple.

There lot of people waiting for Xenoblade X to come to switch and Monolith Soft not improved character models and UI and also giving us extra chapter, to most us that’s worth asking price.
lol I don't know about all that. I'm looking to get that discount though lol Thick Thighs Save Lives Thick Thighs Save Lives you have the link to that 22% off discount?
 
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