foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
Then the game basically just started for you.
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Xenoblade |OT| Sorry I Kept You Waiting!
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Then the game basically just started for you.
Finally started playing, about 5 hours in
. Not liking the battle system that much (also keep dying to some mobs). Playing on a Wii U so the game looks terrible lol, especially the face textures/animations.
Story has been a bit of a drag so far but I'm expecting some classic Takahashi complexity by the end.
looking for Ju Ju after getting Sharla
Story has been a bit of a drag so far but I'm expecting some classic Takahashi complexity by the end.
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
err, the game actually looks better on wiiU lol
Head of Vengarl
Banned
Many people have complained about Xenoblade's combat system. I really like it. It's never grown stale to me and I've played a lot of this game. One giant upgrade it could use, and which I really really hope to see in X, is greater control over your AI teammates. People have mentioned the Gambit system from a Final Fantasy game. I have no idea what that is but if it gives you influence over your teammates I am all for something similar.
So far my problem with it is that I'm doing the same thing for every enemy in every fight using the same skills in the same order because it seems the most effective.
The cooldown also seems kind of strange, like I activate the monado enchant at the start of a mechon mob, but if I kill them too fast and move onto the next mob, the enchant isn't recharged by the time the second fight starts and everyone is doing 1 damage until it does.
Also haven't gotten used to the targeting yet, maybe because of the clutter and the marker is hard to see, but I sometimes target some far off enemy in the distance that's not even engaged in the battle when I'm trying to switch to an enemy right in front of me.
The cooldown also seems kind of strange, like I activate the monado enchant at the start of a mechon mob, but if I kill them too fast and move onto the next mob, the enchant isn't recharged by the time the second fight starts and everyone is doing 1 damage until it does.
Also haven't gotten used to the targeting yet, maybe because of the clutter and the marker is hard to see, but I sometimes target some far off enemy in the distance that's not even engaged in the battle when I'm trying to switch to an enemy right in front of me.
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
That is my thoughts aswell, I want more control over characters like sharla so I can get the right person healed when I need it
I dont get what you mean that your doing the same thing in every fight, are you referring to the break>topple>daze system? you dont have to do that for every enemy
theprodigy
Member
if you need active healing, you fucked up
I have yet to find a case where this isn't true in Xenoblade, outside of like maybe the
Xord
1. I assume you're in earlygame? because later there's stuff that can't be toppled at all, or have spikes and whatnot
2. ah, the Monado's talent gauge fills up by auto-attacking, you need 3 attacks to fill it up from the halfway point (5 if completely empty) without any boosts
3. uh....I got nothing
Yeah something like that. So far regardless of what enemy I've fought I always approach from behind and do the back attack skill -> front attack break when they turn around -> side attack skills -> maybe heal/de-aggro -> repeat
I just kind of want some more strategy where I'll have to respond to elemental weaknesses or something along those lines. I heard the battle system opens up a lot more later though, just finding myself preferring to skip fights when I can right now
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
thats actually specifically what im referring to, I didnt need sharla more than I did in that fight, it was ridiculous
yeah it does open more the further you get into the game, right now you might aswell still be at the title screen in terms of actual progress(from when you last said you left off)
theprodigy
Member
not really related, but who's your favorite characters?
Riki like fighting easy monsters!
also Melia kills stuff and is pretty cute <3
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
Melia, dunban and 7th character
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
Dunban was the hero, then he took Ls from the monado, but he's still cool.
theprodigy
Member
that's not how you spell Riki
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
Dunban is the true hero. He's that good.
theprodigy
Member
My biggest issue is targeting the enemy I want to target, which is important when you want not aggro/not aggro a specific enemy. It's way too cumbersome and reliant on luck. I like it otherwise.
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
You can change targets, it didn't really feel cumbersome to me. It didn't always switch in a sensible order, maybe that's what you mean?
I think FFXII's gambit system was too much of a part of the gameplay, but something based on it that allowed similar customization with making it such an active part of the game would be great. Don't make the player unlock slots and options, give each art options from the start allowing the player to determine when and how it should be used.
And throw those settings out the window for the player character, unlike gambits. Part of the reason you have to rely on them in XII is the battle UI is really slow and clunky, so it's tedious to NOT use gambits on your character. I'd rather just use them for the other party members and have a decent UI to control my character myself.
theprodigy
Member
I think my favourite's pretty obvious
I also liked Dunban, Melia, and Alvis. Alvis was such a tease throughout the story.WHO'S SIDE IS HE EVEN ON
who, Reyn?
also holy crap Riki's Japanese voice sounds like an obnoxious little girl, which one of you people said it was better
and hey chaosblade, who's your favorite
Awakening
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
I HIGHLY recommend switching to japanese, riki sounds just so much better that whe nI heard his english voice I literally went WTF
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
who, Reyn?
also holy crap Riki's Japanese voice sounds like an obnoxious little girl, which one of you people said it was better
and hey chaosblade, who's your favoriteXenoblade characterAwakening
Hmm, probably
Gregor
theprodigy
Member
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
ahhhh it was you!
DIE!!!!!!!!
mortal enemies!
theprodigy
Member
Riki sneaky!
superior English voices are superior
hmm
what do you think about
Saban
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
I'm on my 2nd full playthrough and I just entered a battle where I can play as dickson, after the boss battle with
, this might be the only time you get to actually play as him in the game. Play as him, meaning you can put him in your actual party, you cant make him your main party member tho.
xord
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
You can do that on the first playthrough as well. Shame I can't take his Unbeatable VI off of him. Can you even make an Unbeatable VI?
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
Deinos Sauros drops the V crystal. 50% activation rate for Megaheat I think.
And don't forget you get Dickson in your party during the tutorial.
theprodigy
Member
iRAWRasaurus
Banned
Hey guys I just started playing this, and damn I am enjoying it alot so far. I am not a fan of the camera and was wondering if using a Pro controller would be better? and Is there any way of connecting my wii to use hdmi cords?
D
Deleted member 74300
Unconfirmed Member
Just started and this game is already giving me more hype for X.
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
you can move the camera in the wiimote and nunchuck control scheme incase you didnt know, but pro controller is better at, as a tradeoff you cannot move and use arts at the same time
Ardainian Soldier
Member
I've been lurking NeoGAF for years and just discovered the community section. I want to replay Xenoblade so bad but i just have way too many games at the moment to get through. It's seriously one of the greatest RPG games i have ever played. I loved every minute of it.
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
theprodigy
Member
Glad you enjoyed it so much
another avatar change?
too bad it's hard to make a real challenge run of this game though....
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
another avatar change?
too bad it's hard to make a real challenge run of this game though....
only temporary for now, my last one was the christmas avatar afterall
theprodigy
Member
though I'm curious, does anyone know some difficulty hacks for this game? (preferably for Dolphin)
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
The only ones I've seen are experience reduction (or disabling outright). Never got the reduction one to work right, it always instantly made me level 99 after one fight which was the opposite of what I wanted.
Might be other stuff now too, haven't looked into it since the NA release.
theprodigy
Member
I was thinking of something to disable combat experience altogether, but meh
anyway, one of the biggest scrub mistakes I've seen: using
Monado Purge
Telethia
(also not purging away Super Aura, tsk tsk)
GiantEnemyGoomba
Member
I need some help. I'm at the penultimate boss and at Lv. 77. I'm fairly certain I'll need to grind one or two more levels, but I want to make sure I'm not missing some obvious strategy. I'm running Shulk/Dunban/Sharla and just letting Dunban absorb aggro while I Monado Speed him. My problem is that the boss's moves do way too much damage so I'm stuck using the party bar to heal with Sharla constantly.
Any suggestions with what I should do? I'd prefer to stick with my current party.
Any suggestions with what I should do? I'd prefer to stick with my current party.
theprodigy
Member
are you talking about
Dickson
if so, ....wait what, Dunban should not be taking damage if you're jacking up his agility stat
if Dunban doesn't have max agility, you should probably fix that
(personally, I wouldn't even use Sharla at all)
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
Yeah, Dunban shouldn't be getting hit there, especially if you're putting Monado Speed on him and he's using Serene Heart. Light armor, max agility with gems, agility skill links, the works.
Honestly, if he's using Serene Heart that makes Monado Speed kind of redundant. I'd only use it if a red vision tag comes up and is going to hit. Otherwise use armor or just save the talent art for a vision.
Honestly, if he's using Serene Heart that makes Monado Speed kind of redundant. I'd only use it if a red vision tag comes up and is going to hit. Otherwise use armor or just save the talent art for a vision.
FrankCaron
Gold Member
I'm an old JRPG fanatic from an era long lost, and after snoozing on the genre and sustaining on PS1-era replays through the PS3/Wii generation (aside from playing Eternal Sonata, FFXIII, and Lost Odyssey/Blue Dragon), I finally got a Wii U and bought both Last Story and Xenoblade.
After beating Last Story in just shy of 20 hours, I'm now ready to tackle Xenoblade for the first time ever.
Any pro tips before I dive in?
After beating Last Story in just shy of 20 hours, I'm now ready to tackle Xenoblade for the first time ever.
Any pro tips before I dive in?
Lumpy Onion
Member
Try not to obsess over doing EVERY sidequest. Do enough of "find and kill x monsters or get items" etc. Most things can be found by exploring the map and following story pointers.
Change up your party to see how different characters work. Don't just rely on being Shulk as main character, and rotate in others to see their differences. They all offer very different playstyles which are worth learning. I relied too much on a certain character with a gun (Sharla) and it ended up hurting me in the long run.
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
My post here and the 10ish posts after it.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=90341522#post90341522