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Ys VIII: Lacrimosa of Dana |OT| Two Systems, Two Heroes, One BIG HOLE
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You simply don't pay enough attention.
SolVanderlyn
Thanos acquires the fully powered Infinity Gauntlet in The Avengers: Infinity War, but loses when all the superheroes team up together to stop him.
The translation problems have been way overblown and hyperbolized in this thread. It's not nearly as bad as everyone says, but the opposite isn't true, either - it's not XSeed quality.
It doesn't have the 110% tender love and care XSeed puts in, but it's not bad. I'm not excusing the occasional wooden lines you see, but it's way less distracting than people are making it out to be.
People made a big fuss about Persona 5, too. It's about at that level, I would say. So, not amazing, but not terrible, and certainly above serviceable.
It doesn't have the 110% tender love and care XSeed puts in, but it's not bad. I'm not excusing the occasional wooden lines you see, but it's way less distracting than people are making it out to be.
People made a big fuss about Persona 5, too. It's about at that level, I would say. So, not amazing, but not terrible, and certainly above serviceable.
I wouldn't go that far but the localisation complaints are way overblown. It's a pretty bog-standard localisation, it's not great but it's far from being terrible.
At least, we don't have painful puns about Dragon Quest in this one (I'm looking at you Ys Seven).
If you're interested in Ys VIII you're going to have to ignore the script errors and bad translations and enjoy the great gameplay it offers. Cause it's an addicting game with a rocking soundtrack.
Damn dude, that's some serious NISA shilling. "I hope they get the series for the forseeable future". What are you, a private investor in NISA equity?
All the speed and packaging in the world doesn't matter if you deliver poorly on the game's localization.
OK, since I'm seeing a lot of "not bad" and "overblown" comments, I'll just take a shitload of screenshots from here on out. It's one thing if you don't give a shit about the writing and just want to play an awesome game, but I don't think I'll stand for excuses towards bad writing.
Damn dude, that's some serious NISA shilling. "I hope they get the series for the forseeable future". What are you, a private investor in NISA equity?
All the speed and packaging in the world doesn't matter if you deliver poorly on the game's localization.
OK, since I'm seeing a lot of "not bad" and "overblown" comments, I'll just take a shitload of screenshots from here on out. It's one thing if you don't give a shit about the writing and just want to play an awesome game, but I don't think I'll stand for excuses towards bad writing.
Play with a certain character for X amount of time, I just recently got the one for Adol at around 15 hours of play time, this being Ys you're constantly changing characters though.
lol! Reminds me of my dog. She just stares at you until you feed her her dinner.
The PC version has a revised script. Obviously I don't know how much it differs from the PSP version.
I have some issues with dialog and story-focus in Seven, but localization is not one of them.
Glitter and Gold
Banned
I don't know the differences either. I'm just saying that the complaints now matter about as much to me as the complaints then. I really enjoyed Ys Seven in all regards back then and I'm doing the same with Ys VIII at the moment
Oh god please don't.
Can we just go back to talking about the game lol. This thread was real cool for a minute when everyone was enjoying themselves.
Oh god please don't.
Can we just go back to talking about the game lol. This thread was real cool for a minute when everyone was enjoying themselves.
I don't see how greatly enjoying the game and critizing a part of it at the same time are mutually exclusive in any way.
Sinh_Magnus
Member
The game is not unplayable by any means and the translation is serviceable enough to enjoy the story and the game. But I stand by my opinion that compared to other NISA translations is below their standard and it shows how they have rushed to get the game out. For me it's disappointing. I didn't have problems until the last part of chapter 2 when the way the dialogue flows started to make me enjoy less what was happening, with certain moments where the characters speak too literal and made me wonder if it could have been put in a different way.
I know "mediocre" sounds like an exaggeration, but I care for the story of the game and I've found moments where I've enjoy it less than what I could have.
This is my point of view though, and again I'm really enjoying my time with this game and I could see it being better than some of the big jrpg released this year.
I know "mediocre" sounds like an exaggeration, but I care for the story of the game and I've found moments where I've enjoy it less than what I could have.
This is my point of view though, and again I'm really enjoying my time with this game and I could see it being better than some of the big jrpg released this year.
Glitter and Gold
Banned
Idk taking screen shots of a game to prove it's bad to people that aren't bothered by it doesn't really seem like my idea of a good time.
No to both. Celceta had aerial combos but no jumping
Glitter and Gold
Banned
Nope
Lightning Lord
Banned
Nah, I clearly remember people complaining Seven's localization on PSP being dry and XSeed apologizing for it. They really started to deliver with OiF.
It's interesting (but not surprising) to hear that they touched the script up in the PC release. I really need to look into that sometime, especially since I've been wanting to revisit Seven for a while now.
Iriscomeback
Member
Think I'm going to buy it tomorrow, it looks cool and I just finished Mario x Rabbids.
Is Dana a party member you can control btw? Or is that spoiler territory?
Is Dana a party member you can control btw? Or is that spoiler territory?
Begaria
Member
She's right on the cover, so I don't that marks her too much as spoilers. You do get to control her.
Glitter and Gold
Banned
she is. It's not really spoilers. The dual protagonist nature of the game with her and Adol has been a selling point since the game's announcement
Iriscomeback
Member
Ok, thanks!
Dana is separate from Adol. The segments about Dana so far have been story only (~10 hours in), but later on you should control her
.To all the people claiming all the criticism toward the localisation is overblown and hyperbolised: you don't care enough to notice anything? That's perfectly fine, we all have different standards and expectations after all. But please, because you can't figure out the problems doesn't mean they aren't real or less serious than they're made out to be by people who actually care more than you.
I *never* said it was overblown or hyperbolised. This is what got me raked over the coals:
"I see no appreciable difference"
**I** see no appreciable difference.
Appreciable, as in "large or important enough to be noticed". By me.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
Aren't you fucked when all members are poisoned
Yeah at that point stuff becomes a race. The worst is paralyze just gotta sit there and die lol
Though in that scenario using the red cape makes poison a double edge power booster
No, I don't. It's hard to not be defensive when you get called a shill and unable to pay attention due to a clearly framed personal view on the impact of a translation on an action RPG.
It would probably be good for everyone if I put this discussion to rest. I won't be addressing the translation discussion further.
There was a smiley after that picture
Sinh_Magnus
Member
At first I didn't like to play him very much, but I can see Sahad becoming a serious killing machine by endgame.
Also, (5th party member spoilers)
Also, (5th party member spoilers)
Ricotta right now feels like downgrade compared to Sahad. Less damage, worse abilities, only more agile.
Begaria
Member
His Grand Anchor skill is beasting through a ton of enemies for me. When hitting weak points, it does like 3x the damage in one hit that takes Adol's best skill that I have 3 hits to do.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
Wait until burn damage starts happening. Full health to dead in 2 seconds!
Basileus777
Member
This is not a flattering comparison! Persona 5 had a poor localization that actively detracted from the quality of the game.
Ys VIII's localization is significantly worse than P5's.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
It's even better when it's voice acted typo and all
LOL That somehow feels more merciful than the party waltzing onto something that paralyzes them then everyone dies in rapid succession as you sit there and watch unable to do actions xD
MetalliCabombination
Member
dat night exploration theme
Sinh_Magnus
Member
It's fun trying to imagine how some of the people you can find have managed to survive so far.
Also, I think that trophy for x amount of hours playing as a character counts the time you spend as Adol in the village, because I'm constantly playing as other characters and still haven't got the one for them.
Also, I think that trophy for x amount of hours playing as a character counts the time you spend as Adol in the village, because I'm constantly playing as other characters and still haven't got the one for them.
I kinda hope they just go "fuck it" and patch some of those names back to the original Japanese ones at some point, on PS4 anyway. And man, NISA is based in CA, you'd think they know Baja was pronounced that way anyway.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
The entire series is worth the ride
I'm glad I'm playing on Nightmare. It feels like the challenge I had the first time with Oath.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
Hahaha when I finally got around to killing the 4 babies I was like yes I did it!
Then the big one came out and I was just like WELL FUCKING OF COURSE THERE IS A BIG ONE
Then the big one came out and I was just like WELL FUCKING OF COURSE THERE IS A BIG ONE
CrazyArcadia
Member
I'm enjoying this a lot, playing on Vita. Had my third interception now, continue to explore the maps and really try to avoid teleporting everywhere inbetween since listening to the OST while running through an area is ... relaxing, I guess. Fight system is the best modern Ys has been yet and I already liked it very much in Seven and Celceta. Though I really need to get the PS4 version down the line, I've played the demo and the PS Vita version, while impressive and absolutely playable, just doesn't feel as smooth.. and I can see myself replaying this.
About the translation... it's absolutely not XSeed level of care, charme and consistency. It's really dry and especially since Ys VIII now tries to be more like the Trails series in regards to dialogue and characters It's sad, this is one of the best modern Ys games and yet it misses this special sort of atmosphere which XSeed was able to give those other entries in the series. It's not superbad-bad (I've ... read worse.) but I definitely see this as a blemish on this otherwise smoothly shining armor.
Nevertheless, anyone on the edge of getting this game: If you like Action-JRPGs, Ys VIII has such a refreshingly honest straight-forward gameplay and there really isn't much like this on the market currently. It's really fun, and almost feels like a lost-in-time PS2 classic in many regards...
About the translation... it's absolutely not XSeed level of care, charme and consistency. It's really dry and especially since Ys VIII now tries to be more like the Trails series in regards to dialogue and characters It's sad, this is one of the best modern Ys games and yet it misses this special sort of atmosphere which XSeed was able to give those other entries in the series. It's not superbad-bad (I've ... read worse.) but I definitely see this as a blemish on this otherwise smoothly shining armor.
Nevertheless, anyone on the edge of getting this game: If you like Action-JRPGs, Ys VIII has such a refreshingly honest straight-forward gameplay and there really isn't much like this on the market currently. It's really fun, and almost feels like a lost-in-time PS2 classic in many regards...
Saint of Killers
Member
Right?!
Adol after catching tiddler after tiddler: 8D
Hummel
xD