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Zenless Zone Zero ༺*|OT|*༻ Gotta Waifu 'Em All ♡(੭´͈ ᐜ `͈)੭♡
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SSfox
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Reizo Ryuu
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free for free.
Agent_4Seven
Tears of Nintendo
I'm sorry but... it's been on my mind for way too long and I need to get it out...
There's also a ton of posts online with birthday wishes and stuff... Like, what's the poing in all these birthdays of characters that don't even exist?
I'm seeing this shit even in SF6 out of all games. I just don't get this stupid and pointless trend
There's also a ton of posts online with birthday wishes and stuff... Like, what's the poing in all these birthdays of characters that don't even exist?
I'm seeing this shit even in SF6 out of all games. I just don't get this stupid and pointless trend
Pejo
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Just a chance for marketing and posting fanart. It's not that deep.I'm sorry but... it's been on my mind for way too long and I need to get it out...
There's also a ton of posts online with birthday wishes and stuff... Like, what's the poing in all these birthdays of characters that don't even exist?
I'm seeing this shit even in SF6 out of all games. I just don't get this stupid and pointless trend
Icymanipulator
Member
Oh I didn’t know this was a thing , but I got an achievement for having the same character work in the video store for 7 days in a row.
Pejo
Member
I got that one way back when the game launched. Sorry Heddy.
Thick Thighs Save Lives
NeoGAF's Physical Games Advocate Extraordinaire
Thick Thighs Save Lives
NeoGAF's Physical Games Advocate Extraordinaire
Speaking of that, you should see what the CN fans did for Furina's birthday, lol. These birthday events are a serious deal among dedicated gacha fandoms.I'm sorry but... it's been on my mind for way too long and I need to get it out...
There's also a ton of posts online with birthday wishes and stuff... Like, what's the poing in all these birthdays of characters that don't even exist?
I'm seeing this shit even in SF6 out of all games. I just don't get this stupid and pointless trend
Agent_4Seven
Tears of Nintendo
I mean, I know how it feels to be a fan of someone, but I didn't go that far
More power to them if they can afford it
Thick Thighs Save Lives
NeoGAF's Physical Games Advocate Extraordinaire
Let me tell you this, the CN fanbase is very passionate (and protective) when it comes to their gacha waifus.
I mean, I know how it feels to be a fan of someone, but I didn't go that far
More power to them if they can afford it
I know this might sound strange, and I could be just wrong (I'm still relatively new to the game), but I wish there were more reasons to do combat with your characters in ZZZ. I know there are several endgame modes, but they are either one and done, or require a lot of sweat and skill and meta characters. What I mean by this is that once you clear Shiyu defense for the week, do the Hollow Zero weekly bounties, that's it - other than the two really hard modes - Assault and Tower stuff. I loved clearing Hollow Zero over and over to rise my license pass, but now that I reached a limit there, it's either do something really hard, or do some super-easy grinding for a few minutes until my stamina runs out.
Am I looking at it wrong? I know in Gachas people want to be able to do everything in just 15 minutes daily and that's it - but what if I actually want to play for an hour each evening?
Am I looking at it wrong? I know in Gachas people want to be able to do everything in just 15 minutes daily and that's it - but what if I actually want to play for an hour each evening?
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Reizo Ryuu
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You can do lost void instead since it has a bunch of missions for raising the exploration medal level.
Hollow zero also has a couple hidden commissions that only unlock after finding the hidden lost items, which spawn randomly.
Pejo
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The reality is that they don't want to overwhelm players, and a lot of the players for this game also play their other games, so they really don't want to make people start quitting due to time constraints.
Lost Void is kinda your answer to this, but it's still limited in scope until they add more featured characters. Just chalk it up to being a downside of "gacha" style games.
Also trust me, no matter how much you want to play now, you'll eventually hit a point where you'll be happy to be in and out in 10 mins.
See, this is what confuses me. If you can’t wait to get out of a game, why play it? It’s not a job or anything.
Then again, I never understood obsession with dailies in WoW while I played it.
Anyway, I would just like to have something to farm sometimes I feel like playing the game for longer. And there are stuff you can do, I guess, but the stamina system is so limiting. And yes, I know, it’s a staple of gacha games.
Doom85
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Pejo probably meant specifically some or all of the endgame modes, not the main story content.
Agent_4Seven
Tears of Nintendo
Yanagi - Seth - Astra didn't work?Great i can't even finish Shiyu. My Electro team is struggelling.
Works like a charm for me...
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Pejo
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Yep, specifically meant "endgame" or "farm mode" stuff, the event and new story content is engaging enough to keep playing on its own.
Icymanipulator
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Damn that’s rough.Great i can't even finish Shiyu. My Electro team is struggelling.
Not to rub it in but I literally walked through it again. Seemed easy. My best electric character is Haramusa, who everyone should have. No Yanagi or Quingyi (spelled?)
What’s your teams/builds?
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Have you tried messing with intensity levels in withering garden or other game modes? Also trying different team combinations to collect all the various resonia cards can net you some extra primos. There’s achievements for doing mono element clears, among others that give a bit a replay value.
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Reizo Ryuu
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Also perpetrator battle will go live in a few hours, should be harder than lost void but not endless tower level.
I did, I finished the garden at maximum intensity with Evelyn, Miyabi and Astra (I know it’s a silly team but I was like - what happens if I put two top dps in a team for fun and I wanted to compare them).
I still have some content to go through, but agent stories don’t let me play with my own characters for example.
Again, all this is not a big complaint, just that I would like more farming content in the game. Still, I have things to do - it’s more like I’m expecting a drought and the fact you can do new story stuff and events that every patch brings in one day makes me worried a bit. I really like the game, so I hope there’s something to do in it.
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Spyxos
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I tried it with the team first. Did not work.Yanagi - Seth - Astra didn't work?
Works like a charm for me...
It worked out later, even if it was pretty close. 3min 33 sec. Electro side.. Qingyi i do not have. Rina i just did build yesterday. Builds the ones that are suggested on Prydwen.
Team1: Astra, Miyabi and Burnice
Team2: Yanagi, Seth and Rina
Agent_4Seven
Tears of Nintendo
Very strange cuz it worked for me for the last few SD. You probably haven't invested in the charcters in the right way, don't have good S rank discs with good substats, all skills unlocked, lvld up to the max etc. Idk how else to explain this tbh.
Spyxos
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None of my characters have discs with good substats, just serviceable. Doesn't your Yanagi have her engine?
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That must be the reason, because I don’t even have an electric team, I brute-forced an S rating with Evelyn + Astra + Koleda on the electric side and Miyabi on the other.
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Reizo Ryuu
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You don't have to use the enemy weakness as your main dps, just use whatever they aren't resistant against if you can get more damage out of it.
I literally did all of shiyu with team one jane/seth/astra and team two miyabi/lighter/lucy.
In my best run jane/seth beat their side of shiyu 6 in 2m 20s, the miyabi team is always around 1 minute, so as long as I don't reach 4 minutes with team one it's an easy S rank.
Jane and seth are very synergistic but even more so paired with astra.
Spyxos
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I'll have to give it a try. My Seth has been stuck to Yanagi until now.
Reizo Ryuu
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Icymanipulator
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Damn, Nicole still pulling her weight even in Deadly Assault. She out scored Zhu lmfao.
25995 for Notorious Dead End Butcher
Marionette was easy with Miyabi, but I’m still only 1 star on Typhon Destroyer lol Haramusa is my best electric character and he’s not fully built. Oh well.
Silver Anby soon
Pejo
Member
Just finished that fishing event. I think it was pretty good. Nice variety of activities. The fishing was kinda fun, if a little easy. Nice story that wrapped up cleanly, and the little sidequests were fun in their own ways. Piper pretending to befriend Grace only to steal parts so her machine wouldn't work got a laugh out of me.
I wish the fishing mechanics were a bit deeper, but I understand that they had to make it for the lowest common denominator gacha player. We'll probably never see the fishing system again after this patch, but it was nicely done.
I wish the fishing mechanics were a bit deeper, but I understand that they had to make it for the lowest common denominator gacha player. We'll probably never see the fishing system again after this patch, but it was nicely done.
Icymanipulator
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Felt like this was the easiest deadly assault yet, first try on every stage.
Fully done here are my teams:
Fully done here are my teams:
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Pejo
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I haven't put any time into looking into this mode until tonight, just did a dry run with a few of my better teams and barely eked out 2* on two of them and only got one star on the 3rd. What's most important when doing these fights? Should I be looking to maximize the individual stage buffs and selectable buffs or just use usual tactics and go ham on DPS?
I know I still have a lot of building to do in my teams, but I didn't expect to be essentially shut down by this so badly. Then again, I only gave a cursory glance to the stage mechanics, so if those are important for high scores, that's probably part of my problem. My best score was with my Yanagi team on Dead End Butcher, where I maxed out the 5000 points by doing the assists. Not sure how I could make up another 5000 points by just fighting better though, that's where I'm kinda stuck. Granted, Electric isn't a weakness, so I'm not sure if that's a huge part of it too.
Does weakness add like 10-15% damage or is it more than that? I could drag Ellen out but she needs skill levels and better discs to even think about doing better than my Yanagi.
Reizo Ryuu
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as you can see in his scores, two of them he wouldn't have reached 3 stars without the performance points, so yes unless you can completely blow past the requirement (I scored ~34k with miyabi last rotation), then the performance points are important yes.
You can see that the second boss has bonuses for disorder/anomaly, so your yanagi team would do better there instead of butcher
Icymanipulator
Member
Tbh, I didn’t really look at the stage information
I only paid attention to weakness and the buff you can select. And as Reizo mentioned some stages I just barely made it lol.
My strategy to just go ham basically, I know that’s not very helpful but ya in just try to do as much damage as possible. I do actively use piper and her ex spin to set off as many disorder as as possible in that one fight. The others it was just spamming moves and it’s as they came up.
I wasn’t able to get 9 stars the last 2 times, so I think the bosses and available buffs were just advantageous to me this time.
All my characters are pretty well built tho, good discs, main skills maxed, secondary skills 1 off.
Just wanted to share my teams to give some people a starting point on teams as I’ve had issues hitting 9 stars myself.
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Pejo
Member
Endgame modes rarely interest me, but I think I will try this again in a patch or two once I have 3 full teams built. It's another issue caused by my horizontal leveling (leveling many characters at once instead of focusing on a few teams), and I'm used to the fallout that comes from that type of progression.
I might try to use my Miyabi team on the Disorder boss and see if I can't 3* that one at least, since my overall rewards probably won't decrease, just to see if I can hit the score.
Thanks R Reizo Ryuu and
Icymanipulator
for the advice.
I might try to use my Miyabi team on the Disorder boss and see if I can't 3* that one at least, since my overall rewards probably won't decrease, just to see if I can hit the score.
Thanks R Reizo Ryuu and
Icymanipulator
for the advice.
Agent_4Seven
Tears of Nintendo
They're completely useless and based on what I've seen in game, literally no one is using them unless it's Ben, but Ben is super slow and clunky flufball and no one should waste their time and resourced on him. So the answer is.... wait and see
Like, I've plenty of discs which Idk wtf am I supposed to do with, but I store them anyway in case I might need them later. So if you really want to get rid of Soul Rock discs, get rid of the most crappy ones and save really good ones (main / sub stats) for the future cuz you never know...
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Agent_4Seven
Tears of Nintendo
So...
Anyway, decided to test Evelyn in the last SD node just to see the difference and my best run is ~40s less than with Marcato BUT, that's not an ideal team for Evelyn (she really needs Astra) and Pen Ration basically doing nothing in this case. But I did it just out of curiocity and to see what it can do in a not ideal team. As for the ideal team, well...
So what's the point in Heartstring Nocturne then, you may say? Well, if I were to guess as to WTF is happening here (but I can't test it yet to say for sure cuz I don't have a god like 4pc of Crit Rate set) it's the fire disc set I'm using and overcrit it causes - meaning I've a lot of Crit Rate which is simply wasted and I could instead use 4th disc with Attack stat since Nocturne has 50% Crit DMG bonus anyway. It's definitely not the 5th disc with Pen Ratio cuz it's perfect for Evelyn - Lighter - Astra team, so I need to test SD7 with 4th Attack disc. Like, maybe it also has something to do with the bangboo I'm using...? I mean, I could use the Dragon Ball one for sure with extra Fire DMG, but I haven't seen any posts or videos where people are saying that it must be this and this bangboo for the team I'm using, so.... Idk, but something is deffinitely not right.
Here's my current Evelyn stats etc. for reference:
Yeah...
Took me goddam ~100 pulls though - lost my first 75/25 to the third dupe of Alexandrina's W-Engine which... uh, well as much as I like Alexandrina, there's just no good team for her right now where her focus on Pen can do something and as much as it does for Evelyn (if not more cuz my Alexandrina has 75% Pen Ratio) in Evelyn - Lighter - Astra team.
Took me goddam ~100 pulls though - lost my first 75/25 to the third dupe of Alexandrina's W-Engine which... uh, well as much as I like Alexandrina, there's just no good team for her right now where her focus on Pen can do something and as much as it does for Evelyn (if not more cuz my Alexandrina has 75% Pen Ratio) in Evelyn - Lighter - Astra team.
Anyway, decided to test Evelyn in the last SD node just to see the difference and my best run is ~40s less than with Marcato BUT, that's not an ideal team for Evelyn (she really needs Astra) and Pen Ration basically doing nothing in this case. But I did it just out of curiocity and to see what it can do in a not ideal team. As for the ideal team, well...
No difference whatsoever and I mean LITERALLY NO DIFFERENCE:
So what's the point in Heartstring Nocturne then, you may say? Well, if I were to guess as to WTF is happening here (but I can't test it yet to say for sure cuz I don't have a god like 4pc of Crit Rate set) it's the fire disc set I'm using and overcrit it causes - meaning I've a lot of Crit Rate which is simply wasted and I could instead use 4th disc with Attack stat since Nocturne has 50% Crit DMG bonus anyway. It's definitely not the 5th disc with Pen Ratio cuz it's perfect for Evelyn - Lighter - Astra team, so I need to test SD7 with 4th Attack disc. Like, maybe it also has something to do with the bangboo I'm using...? I mean, I could use the Dragon Ball one for sure with extra Fire DMG, but I haven't seen any posts or videos where people are saying that it must be this and this bangboo for the team I'm using, so.... Idk, but something is deffinitely not right.
Here's my current Evelyn stats etc. for reference:
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Endgame modes rarely interest me, but I think I will try this again in a patch or two once I have 3 full teams built. It's another issue caused by my horizontal leveling (leveling many characters at once instead of focusing on a few teams), and I'm used to the fallout that comes from that type of progression.
I might try to use my Miyabi team on the Disorder boss and see if I can't 3* that one at least, since my overall rewards probably won't decrease, just to see if I can hit the score.
Thanks R Reizo Ryuu and
Maybe you knew this, but just in case you didn’t: you don’t need 3 teams to get the all the polychrome rewards, you can do it with two. Out of 9 stars, only 6 give polychromes, which can be done with 2 teams.
Agent_4Seven
Tears of Nintendo
Moreover, you don't even need 2 teams if you have Miyabi - with Soukaku as a support alone, she can easily get 30K+ points (at least in my case that is). Of course it depends on the bosses in DA after each refresh.
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Doom85
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Soooooo, doing Miyabi’s challenge made me realize I wasn’t aware you could continue holding her charge attack for maximum damage, as I had just been holding it and releasing.
Me: Miyabi is really, really OP.
Hoyo: Actually, you’ve been holding her back. This is her at full power.
Me:
Me: Miyabi is really, really OP.
Hoyo: Actually, you’ve been holding her back. This is her at full power.
Me:
Reizo Ryuu
Member
Lol without the charge attack she's barely stronger than yanagi or jane.
Thick Thighs Save Lives
NeoGAF's Physical Games Advocate Extraordinaire
Enjoy Miyabi at her full power, lol!Soooooo, doing Miyabi’s challenge made me realize I wasn’t aware you could continue holding her charge attack for maximum damage, as I had just been holding it and releasing.
Me: Miyabi is really, really OP.
Hoyo: Actually, you’ve been holding her back. This is her at full power.
Me:
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Salz01
Member
I’m kinda pissed I didn’t try and pull for her when she was outEnjoy Miyabi at her full power, lol!
Agent_4Seven
Tears of Nintendo
So, looks like I was wrong about the difference with the ideal team and that's cuz the game is not saving worse resault after you get the better one. Now that I have great Crit Rare 4pc disc set, the resaults are...So...
Yeah...
Took me goddam ~100 pulls though - lost my first 75/25 to the third dupe of Alexandrina's W-Engine which... uh, well as much as I like Alexandrina, there's just no good team for her right now where her focus on Pen can do something and as much as it does for Evelyn (if not more cuz my Alexandrina has 75% Pen Ratio) in Evelyn - Lighter - Astra team.
Anyway, decided to test Evelyn in the last SD node just to see the difference and my best run is ~40s less than with Marcato BUT, that's not an ideal team for Evelyn (she really needs Astra) and Pen Ration basically doing nothing in this case. But I did it just out of curiocity and to see what it can do in a not ideal team. As for the ideal team, well...
No difference whatsoever and I mean LITERALLY NO DIFFERENCE:
So what's the point in Heartstring Nocturne then, you may say? Well, if I were to guess as to WTF is happening here (but I can't test it yet to say for sure cuz I don't have a god like 4pc of Crit Rate set) it's the fire disc set I'm using and overcrit it causes - meaning I've a lot of Crit Rate which is simply wasted and I could instead use 4th disc with Attack stat since Nocturne has 50% Crit DMG bonus anyway. It's definitely not the 5th disc with Pen Ratio cuz it's perfect for Evelyn - Lighter - Astra team, so I need to test SD7 with 4th Attack disc. Like, maybe it also has something to do with the bangboo I'm using...? I mean, I could use the Dragon Ball one for sure with extra Fire DMG, but I haven't seen any posts or videos where people are saying that it must be this and this bangboo for the team I'm using, so.... Idk, but something is deffinitely not right.
Here's my current Evelyn stats etc. for reference:
1m+ saved if you're using both great Crit Rare 4pc disc set and the ideal team for Evelyn (minus bangboo).
Heartstring Nocturne:
Marcato:
Heartstring Nocturne:
Marcato:
Is it worth it? Well, sure af not for SD at least for now and in current DA it's easy to get 3 medals with Marcato, ideal team and without great Crit Rare 4pc disc set. Maybe it's worth it in the Endless Tower, but I don't give a fuck about it cuz there's no rewards worth to waste my time there beyond 20 lvls.
So yeah, unless you're really struggling in SD to get S rank with the Fire team and if you don't want free 50% to Crit DMG along with 24% Crit Rate for other agents when you swith engines for whatever reason.... just stick to Marcato, it's not that bad, completely upgraded / lvld up and F2P.
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