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Zero Time Dilemma (Zero Escape 3) review thread
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properpropaganda
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I said it once and I'll keep saying it: the game runs fine on the 3ds. Any problems aside from resolution and very minimal and absolutly nowhere near game breaking. If it was I wouldnt have spent 32 hours on it. There is only one puzzle in the game where I found the low resolution was a hinderance. The thing you are looking for is kind of small anyways, so....
I just checked, and I think that demo might be US PSN only, I couldn't find it on the EU store.
Handful of Vita games saved to the cart ala Nintendo handhelds rather than on the memory card. This can be annoying, though the Vita's save setup is sort of a complete fuckup with PS+ serving as a bandaid fix.
ok, thanks! i'll give it a shot then ^^
Grabbed VLR during the e3 special and loving it (almost done, one more route to go). Since i just had finished DR1 and DR2 on steam, I wanted more of the same'ish stuff and found out the 3rd was coming to steam, so i figured id play vlr and 999 first. 999 isn't on the eshop, so i guess i'll grab that on steam when it comes out 
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At least I'll know what happens in VLR and a bit of 999 before going in to the 3rd, can't wait for the 30th! (getting steam release, although i'll miss writing notes on the 3ds memo)
. At least I'll know what happens in VLR and a bit of 999 before going in to the 3rd, can't wait for the 30th! (getting steam release, although i'll miss writing notes on the 3ds memo)
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Deleted member 518609
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Yeah, but that sounds more like it's when the game unlocks rather than when it becomes available for preorder. Given that the page advertises the OST and art book as "preorder bonuses" it'd be odd if they don't have it up for preorder.
I see what you mean, that really wouldn't make a whole lot of sense. No idea if/when there will be pre-orders for the Steam version, sorry.
edit:
looking at the Steam page, it sounds like everyone who purchases ZTD on Steam will be able to download the mini OST and artbook as free DLC.
Spike Chunsoft is handling the Steam version worldwide and the artbook is a 3DS/Vita preorder bonus in Japan, so maybe some wires got crossed and there won't be any pre-orders on Steam?
No problem. I'll be buying it regardless but it'd be nice to preload and have it ready to go.
nintendoworldreport podcast, including talk about ZTD and their review (live right now, you can skip back a few minutes)
NWR @ Nite: Tokyo Mirage Sessions And The Other Zero Time Dilemma
NWR @ Nite: Tokyo Mirage Sessions And The Other Zero Time Dilemma
brickarts295
Member
is there a Crash Course for VLR I could take. It's been years since I played it and got 100%. I remember the important stuff but not the context. And to my dismay I guess I forgot to save my file to the cloud on my Vita -_-
JoeyJungle
Banned
Yeah, it'll probably be something like free DLC included with purchases for the first two weeks after launch, and then they'll start selling the DLC separately.
You should probably play VLR first if possible (or at least watch a recap), characters and events introduced in that game will feed heavily into this one.
VLR ends on a big cliffhanger that this game follows from.
Not as much as if you played VLR, which is a great game. VLR has too many important plot developments.
Also ZTD isn't going anywhere, don't feel the need to skip a (very important) entry just so you can play the new game as soon as it's out...
Dandy Crocodile
Member
No, you won't. It will hamper the experience greatly.
The Hermit
Member
people who have the 3DS verison
is the framerate bad in specific moments or generally?
is the framerate bad in specific moments or generally?
calc84maniac
Member
Specific moments, mainly when there are a lot of particle effects.
Marmaladefire
Member
Yeah, I wish people (including the devs...) Would stop saying "nah you'll be fine, there's going to be a summary." This is some convoluted shit. Play the first two games.
Early in ZTD they summarize some of the events of the past games, but it works more for people who played the games to remember them than to people who never played them to learn about them.
You can play and enjoy 80% of VLR up to a certain point without playing 999, even if it's not recommended. Then after that point, you're not only stop enjoying it as much, but you'll also have 999 spoiled out for you. You absolutely should not play VLR without playing 999 first because of that.
ZTD's case is more extreme. The game wastes no time in introducing late VLR plot points without ceremony and some of the reveals and paths need VLR knowledge to be appreciated as intended.
Don't rush this, people. They went back and labeled 999 "Zero Escape Vol. 1" for a reason. ZTD is Volume 3. This is a story-heavy series. Don't half-ass it.
You can play and enjoy 80% of VLR up to a certain point without playing 999, even if it's not recommended. Then after that point, you're not only stop enjoying it as much, but you'll also have 999 spoiled out for you. You absolutely should not play VLR without playing 999 first because of that.
ZTD's case is more extreme. The game wastes no time in introducing late VLR plot points without ceremony and some of the reveals and paths need VLR knowledge to be appreciated as intended.
Don't rush this, people. They went back and labeled 999 "Zero Escape Vol. 1" for a reason. ZTD is Volume 3. This is a story-heavy series. Don't half-ass it.
properpropaganda
Member
Since this is the review thread, I'm gonna plop mine down right here. Please check it.
Solid Raiden
Neo Member
How did I not know this was coming out so soon?! I never played 999 but Zero Escape was mind blowing! Time to dust off the vita, baby!
UberTag
Member
Because I'm the curious sort...
Might I ask what those three other games would be? After all, that's phenomenally high praise you've given there.
properpropaganda
Member
Persona 4 and Danganronpa 1 and 2
SoulUnison
Banned
If you *want* to enjoy it 100%, yes. Otherwise, you'll be missing 2/3rds of the story and context.
This isn't just "Zero Time Dilemma," it's "Zero Escape: Volume 3."
randomusername
Member
If you really want to enjoy it to the max then yes, I'd probably say so
Modest Mauser
Member
Really torn between Vita and PC.
GhostTrick
Banned
Depends of what you're looking for. Usually VN are better appreciated on handhelds, but ZTD took a more cinematic approach. Also, IQ is pretty clean on PC while it's bad on the Vita version.
PC Review Codes were just sent out. Looking forward to seeing how this version handles.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTbPlsmZVLk&feature=youtu.be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTbPlsmZVLk&feature=youtu.be
Galactic Fork
A little fluff between the ears never did any harm...
Actually, I'm starting it for the very first time right now. 999 is one of my favorite DS games, but I've been putting off VLR for too long.
Edit: I really know next to nothing about VLR... when people talk about how long it is, or how long ZTD is, is this including replays like 999? Are replays part of VLR's story?
Dandy Crocodile
Member
Not technically replays. There's a flowchart and yes, you have to go down every route to get the full story.
Cool, thanks
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Deleted member 518609
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VLR can anywhere between 25-35 hours or so depending on your reading speed and puzzle solving speed, and that's not including replays -- since there are none. VLR doesn't make you start a new save to make different decisions, you simply open the flowchart and jump back to where the decision that you made was, and make the other decision. Unlike 999 you don't have to replay escape rooms, or read text you've already seen in VLR, press Y/Square twice will make the game skip through any text you've already seen, since some routes have sections of text in common.
You'll need to go down practically every single route to get the true ending, but every route and ending is important.
Galactic Fork
A little fluff between the ears never did any harm...
Aww, I liked the replaying... but wow, i'm kinda pissed. I just started out on the first room and
I got the little paper with the people all over it and it says on there "try counting the number of babies and old people." What the heck?? It's giving away an entire puzzle! I have it on hard already. is the whole thing like that where text will just say "hey solve the puzzle this way"?
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Deleted member 518609
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Nah, VLR can get tough as hell sometimes, certainly far more than 999. Especially if you want the gold files.
The first puzzle is just trying to be kind to you.
Lumination
'enry 'ollins
It's just the first puzzle. I think you'll enjoy hard and VLR's two solutions for every room approach.
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Deleted member 518609
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For the first time in the series, an options menu! Cursor speed is something I'm especially happy to see, VLR's was far too fast.
That's basically the tutorial.
