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Zika Virus Declared Global Emergency by World Health Organization

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SRG01

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Yikes.

Serious question: would exterminating all mosquitoes, if possible, have any negative impact on the environment?

Because with all the diseases they have with them and how annoying they are this really sounds like a good idea (theoretically).

AFAIK, the mosquito doesn't occupy any sensitive ecological niches. Moreover, the things that would be eliminated due to the mosquito disappearing would be a good thing -- ie. dengue, malaria, etc.

Like other posters have written, mosquitos don't serve much purpose in almost all ecological systems that couldn't be served by other insects or species.
 

bitbydeath

Gold Member
If we got rid of mosquitoes then how are we meant to bring the dinosaurs back?

Seriously though I wouldn't miss them.
 
Could this disease surge be related to climate change?

I think the only way that'd happen is if climate change allowed mosquito populations to exist in areas where they normally can't. I believe that these are all areas that already had mosquitoes since time immemorial, so that'd make this just an ordinary case of "new disease spreads through places where the relevant victims live and reaches critical mass someday."


If we got rid of mosquitoes then how are we meant to bring the dinosaurs back?

Seriously though I wouldn't miss them.

We only need already-dead ones in amber to bring the dinosaurs back! We can apologize to nature for genociding one species by giving it ten that it though were gone!
 

Haribi

Why isn't there a Star Wars RPG? And wouldn't James Bond make for a pretty good FPS?
I think I read somewhere that the virus does not stay in your body for too long (was it one month?) and that you are immune to it after that.

So I was thinking. Women who want to get pregnant but are afraid of catching the virus during pregnancy, wouldn't it be a somewhat stupid but also logical idea to intentionally infect yourself with the virus, wait for two months just to be safe and then get pregnant? You should be clean and immune so there shouldn't be any risks of getting infected during the pregnancy and the baby should be completely safe.

Of course this only makes sense if scientists can prove with 100% certainty that you are completely clean and immune after a certain amount of time.
 

mantidor

Member
It has been known to be transmissible through sex for months now.

It was highly probable but these guys and gals prefer to have absolute hard proof evidence before going to the press. My friend is doing a doctorate on dengue and this mosquito, and she was still skeptical just these past weekend about sexual transmission, when the news broke she actually texted me about it, so it is a big deal in the scientific community.
 

M52B28

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I just laughed.
 
Hopefully states/counties in the U.S. Step up their mosquito control this year, it especially sucks living next to shallow bodies of water when it warms up like the pond across from me that's a huge breeding ground for the fuckers and it's certainly worse for wetland areas down south. Never mind the people around here who just allow objects to accumulate water and stagnate.
 

akira28

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sexually transmitted zika virus y'all.

told yall to stop fucking with the earth. no, you had to keep mining coltane and setting off underground nukes...
 

Nivash

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India Times said:
"We have two candidate vaccines in development. One of them is an inactivated vaccine that has reached the stage of pre-clinical testing in animals.

"Vaccine developed" is one hell of an optimistic take on "vaccine candidate has reached pre-clinical animal testing stage" which is incidentally the very first stage. A stage low enough that it's not even counted - it's followed by phases 0 through 4, which typically takes years. Even if they push this through with emergency authorization it's going to take months.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phases_of_clinical_research#Pre-clinical_studies
 

wachie

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"Vaccine developed" is one hell of an optimistic take on "vaccine candidate has reached pre-clinical animal testing stage" which is incidentally the very first stage. A stage low enough that it's not even counted - it's followed by phases 0 through 4, which typically takes years. Even if they push this through with emergency authorization it's going to take months.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phases_of_clinical_research#Pre-clinical_studies
Which is why I preface with "possible" and didnt use the article's original title.
 

Nivash

Member
Which is why I preface with "possible" and didnt use the article's original title.

Oh sorry, I wasn't criticizing you, I was criticizing the headline used by India Times. My apologies for not making that clearer. I ended up paraphrasing you by mistake.
 

Geist-

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Such a shitty virus.


Why isn't there a virus which gives us superpower? A classic win-win-situation for both the virus and the infected individual.
AFAIK, 99% of virus' and bacterial diseases usually aren't harmful to humans or at least aren't fatal. The bad diseases are usually so terrible because they transfered to humans from livestock, where a particular virus/disease would barely affect a cow, but wreaks havoc on a human body. Blame unhygienic cities for our current situation.

CGP Grey has a pretty good video on it. https://youtu.be/JEYh5WACqEk
 

Nightbird

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Probably not. They are an invasive species in most places, anyway. Fuck 'em.

AFAIK, the mosquito doesn't occupy any sensitive ecological niches. Moreover, the things that would be eliminated due to the mosquito disappearing would be a good thing -- ie. dengue, malaria, etc.

Like other posters have written, mosquitos don't serve much purpose in almost all ecological systems that couldn't be served by other insects or species.

I really hope we'll find a way to get rid of them. Those are little Bastards
 

andycapps

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The sooner we can make mosquitoes extinct, the better. Fuckers cause nothing but trouble.

This seems as likely as eradicating ants. They're so plentiful, how do you expect to do this without causing widespread extinctions of other insects? Likely whatever insecticide you'd use to kill mosquitoes would kill other insects as well.
 

SkyOdin

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Unfortunatly, there is no way to just wipe out mosquitoes. People have been trying to fight maleria and other serious diseases by attacking mosquitoes for over a century now. If there was a quick and simple way to render mosquitoes extinct, people would have done so by now. Widespread use of DDT and other pestisides can put a dent in populations of mosquitoes, but only if you are willing to deal with serious ecological damage and some risk to human health. Even then, mosquitoes in some parts of the world such as India are already resistant to DDT.

Mosquito control is likely to remain a difficult and complex task that relies on utilizing different techniques to suit local conditions. Wiping out mosquitoes as a whole probably will never happen.
 

mnannola

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Unfortunatly, there is no way to just wipe out mosquitoes. People have been trying to fight maleria and other serious diseases by attacking mosquitoes for over a century now. If there was a quick and simple way to render mosquitoes extinct, people would have done so by now. Widespread use of DDT and other pestisides can put a dent in populations of mosquitoes, but only if you are willing to deal with serious ecological damage and some risk to human health. Even then, mosquitoes in some parts of the world such as India are already resistant to DDT.

Mosquito control is likely to remain a difficult and complex task that relies on utilizing different techniques to suit local conditions. Wiping out mosquitoes as a whole probably will never happen.

Crazy to think we could eradicate the "King of the Jungle" in an afternoon most likely, but we don't stand a chance against a tiny mosquito.
 

Purkake4

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If we didn't eradicate mosquitos for malaria (possibly responsible for half of all preventable human deaths in history and hundreds of thousands a year today), dengue, chikungunya and a pagefull of other diseases, I don't think we'll eradicate them for this. There will most likely be a vaccine for zika, the question is how long it'll take.
 
If we didn't eradicate mosquitos for malaria (possibly responsible for half of all preventable human deaths in history and hundreds of thousands a year today), dengue, chikungunya and a pagefull of other diseases, I don't think we'll eradicate them for this. There will most likely be a vaccine for zika, the question is how long it'll take.

You make it sound like we had the power to eradicate them but chose not to... the issue is, we can't really eradicate them with current technology, at least not without wiping out basically everything else along the way (including plants and larger animals). So, for now, we have to treat the symptoms (spread of disease) while we develop new tools to kill mosquitoes on a large-yet-targeted-scale.
 

Purkake4

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You make it sound like we had the power to eradicate them but chose not to... the issue is, we can't really eradicate them with current technology, at least not without wiping out basically everything else along the way (including plants and larger animals). So, for now, we have to treat the symptoms (spread of disease) while we develop new tools to kill mosquitoes on a large-yet-targeted-scale.
Half the posts here are about eradicating mosquitoes.

I'm sure you could produce the sterile male mosquitoes on an industrial scale and get something done, but it's a pretty big project with a lot of unknowns.
 

Z3M0G

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Heard this morning that it transmitted sexually from a man who traveled to a woman who remained home in the US... nothing is known yet about how long he would have been contagious, etc. It could live longer in semen.
 

A Fish Aficionado

I am going to make it through this year if it kills me
Interesting article about how all the "don't get pregnant" stuff is only focused on women and not also on men, because you know, you need 2 to be pregnant =P

http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_facto...ka_pregnancies_too.html?wpsrc=sh_all_dt_tw_ru

Health orgs have been doing some very questionable statements. They brought up the CDC alcohol statement as well.

Really disheartening to see.

Crazy to think we could eradicate the "King of the Jungle" in an afternoon most likely, but we don't stand a chance against a tiny mosquito.

lifespan is about 10 days
 

OraleeWey

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Is this a way of nature controlling population? Has it ever been proved that this is what mosquitoes do? It seems really strange that it affects pregnant women and the virus spreads to the child. As far as I understand the babies have a high chance of dying too?
 

mantidor

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Is this a way of nature controlling population? Has it ever been proved that this is what mosquitoes do? It seems really strange that it affects pregnant women and the virus spreads to the child. As far as I understand the babies have a high chance of dying too?

From a biology point of view yes, mosquitos only exist to reduce human population, it's all they do, they do not pollinate anything, they are not important in any ecosystem or needed for food for any species.
 

Purkake4

Banned
Is this a way of nature controlling population? Has it ever been proved that this is what mosquitoes do? It seems really strange that it affects pregnant women and the virus spreads to the child. As far as I understand the babies have a high chance of dying too?
About the second part, different diseases affect the fetus in different ways. Some don't penetrate the placenta while others like rubella or ebola are very deadly for the fetus.
 

Rentahamster

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From a biology point of view yes, mosquitos only exist to reduce human population, it's all they do, they do not pollinate anything, they are not important in any ecosystem or needed for food for any species.

That's not why they exist. They evolved to do their thing, just like any other organism, because that ended up being the best way to survive and reproduce.

Mosquitoes actually do contribute to pollination.

They do have a role in the areas in which they are native.

However, it's probably not a role that can't be replaced, and in many places, they are an invasive species anyway.
 

Downhome

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Well this is certainly news...

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ought-cdc-sounds-warning-zika-virus/82894878/

'Scarier than we initially thought:' CDC sounds warning on Zika virus


WASHINGTON — Public health officials said Monday they've learned a lot more about Zika since the White House asked Congress for $1.9 billion to combat the mosquito-borne virus, and are increasingly concerned about its potential impact on the United States.

"Most of what we've learned is not reassuring," said Dr. Anne Schuchat, the principal deputy director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. "Everything we look at with this virus seems to be a bit scarier than we initially thought."

She said the virus has been linked to a broader array of birth defects throughout a longer period of pregnancy, including premature birth and blindness in addition to the smaller brain size caused by microcephaly. The potential geographic range of the mosquitoes transmitting the virus also reaches farther northward, with the Aedes aegypti species present in all or part of 30 states, not just 12. And it can be spread sexually, causing the CDC to update its guidance to couples.

And researchers still don't know how many babies of women infected with Zika will end up with birth defects, or what drugs and vaccines may be effective.

"This is a very unusual virus that we can't pretend to know everything about it that we need to know," said Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases.

The assessment, delivered to reporters at the White House Monday, comes the week after the White House informed Congress it was moving more than $510 million previously earmarked for Ebola prevention toward Zika prevention efforts.

More at link...
 
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