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[CrustyBritches]

I think it's a mistake to make this about Chelsea or give her attention in any manner beyond her function in cycle of shaming their hive mind unleashed(in a coordinated manner) on a specific set of targets, namely Alec Holowka. This is a study in Cancel Culture.

Fuck all the GG, ERA, Twitter troll wars. The focus should be on revealing the inner workings of Cancel Culture and establishing a precedent of legal defense against witch hunts and means securing damages from any place of employment that punishes it's employee based on Twitter rumors. Then the government needs to step in and regulate, fine, and break down these social media giants. They are a curse upon mankind.

 

[Barnabot]

A fool and his money are soon parted. Think of it as being the cult entry fee. A bit like how you have to donate a percentage of your income to Scientology if you become a member.

If they only could spend that donation money into buying new games instead since they "supposedily" decided to become members of a "allegedly" gaming forum.

 

[buizel]

guys have you heard of indie game developer zoe quinn

you know? she makes video games, everyone loves video games.

ah, shes a video game developer.

an independent game developer! that job is tough, putting so much time and money and getting lit..

oh. thats the game. basically 'zoe's moaning power hour' shoddily disguised as a 'interactive' website. pretty sure i was making hyperlinks and shit at 5.

thats her game. THATS THE GAME. THIS IS WHAT SHE GOT THE MONEY FOR. HOW IS THAT A GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAME
#
sorry, its just i also make games and put actual time and effort into things

 

[Barnabot]

I think I now everyone should call me as game developer too. Everyone now must be enjoying my shoot 'em up done with Allegro5.

 

[SidViscous]

oh. thats the game. basically 'zoe's moaning power hour' shoddily disguised as a 'interactive' website. pretty sure i was making hyperlinks and shit at 5.

Technically doesn't that also make NeoGaf a videogame? Evilore has more players than Anthem right now.

 

[funking giblet]

Wait, my first game was for the 360 and you could cross play on the PC and also it had realtime reflections, and it was 12 years ago..

Am I... (Typing like I am talking)... Am I a G-G-Game Dev?

 

[DragoonKain]

guys have you heard of indie game developer zoe quinn

you know? she makes video games, everyone loves video games.

ah, shes a video game developer.

an independent game developer! that job is tough, putting so much time and money and getting lit..

oh. thats the game. basically 'zoe's moaning power hour' shoddily disguised as a 'interactive' website. pretty sure i was making hyperlinks and shit at 5.

thats her game. THATS THE GAME. THIS IS WHAT SHE GOT THE MONEY FOR. HOW IS THAT A GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAME
#
sorry, its just i also make games and put actual time and effort into things

*they

 

[Fuz]

*they

"They" is plural. She's a single person.

 

[SidViscous]

"They" is plural. She's a single person.

I dunno, have you seen her recent pics?

 

[funking giblet]

She's no Proxy Paige... wai

 

[Codswallop_]

guys have you heard of indie game developer zoe quinn

you know? she makes video games, everyone loves video games.

ah, shes a video game developer.

an independent game developer! that job is tough, putting so much time and money and getting lit..

oh. thats the game. basically 'zoe's moaning power hour' shoddily disguised as a 'interactive' website. pretty sure i was making hyperlinks and shit at 5.

thats her game. THATS THE GAME. THIS IS WHAT SHE GOT THE MONEY FOR. HOW IS THAT A GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAME
#
sorry, its just i also make games and put actual time and effort into things

She also pocketed over $85,000 on a kickstarter campaign for a second, similar, game. No updates in over a year, apparently the money has run out (not sure if that was before or after her trip to Japan).

Zero accountability for these people, yet fools keep giving them money.

 

[DragoonKain]

"They" is plural. She's a single person.

I was being facetious.

 

[Raven117]

You mean the unconscious, right? I don't necessarily agree with Freud's idea of it (id), mainly because I think he was terrified of it (which says more about him than anything else). I'd say there's nothing wrong with the unconscious, or even our darkside. The problems arise when we don't integrate that part of ourselves and start projecting all the dirt accumulated by our lack of shadow work. And you can see this especially in types like Zoe Quinn. That woman shouldn't even come near the internet, that's how toxic she is. Unfortunately we live in a post-psychological world, where no attention is given to the great psychologists (not to be confused with psychotherapists) of the past.

However, I do think that the internet wields power. We are taking everything seriously, and that has serious consequences. A person committed suicide because of it. People complain about this and that, and that influences things (i.e. see the Sonic the Hedgehog movie). And it has made a entire generation of smartphone users addicted to social media, and there's no chance in hell that these people could ever live (or rather function) without the continuous stimulation they need to receive.

But I think you're right when it comes to leaving it all behind, at least to people who are capable of doing so.

I do. I used Freuds' Id. as a shorthand for the unbridled darkside of all of us. When you have anonymity without the accountability, then this lets chaos reign. Society is built on accountability in a grand sense. It was since the first two humans decided they were stronger together than apart. "Social Media" and the internet, as it turns out, is a corruption of community. A bastardization of what makes us human. To connect. You can't do it with likes, posts, or hell even texts. To make that human connection with someone, you have to see them in person. To feel their presence,...their life force. Might sound weird, but its true. And younger people, who grew up in this dark age of human connection, don' t know that as well as others just a decade older. Which leads to your point, that people do take it seriously...Fuck man its sad. If you whole life (and/or livelihood) is on social media, then you are susceptible to whims of a lawless mob without an ounce of forgiveness or humanity.

The internet, and social media has its pros for sure, but damn man, we as humans aren't ready for the cons....and moreover, these cons are being exacerbated by rich guys in hoodies who know good damn well that they are praying on the dark insecurities of all of us.

(I did your point about all of us not focsuing on great psychologists....It falls into the greater picture that high level thinking, philosophy, reaching up to our better angels of understanding, forgiveness, and knowledge are no longer valuable traits).

 

[captainraincoat]

There are a lot of great posters at ERA, the problem is that the conversation is regulated by a cabal of maybe 100 prime lunatics that make the most noise. The ones that hang out on discord 24/7, combing the forum for any wrongthink to bring back and share with their goober mod buddies. Get rid of them and the rest would be fine.

You won't get rid of them...that's the problem...they own the house you are all partying in and most of the people on era are completely oblivious to what's really going on

The sooner the good people realise that the site they are on was created from lies and years of sabotage here they will finally understand that it wasn't the good people that left and started their own site.....it was the bad ones and the supposed good people all fell for the bait

Here is a much better place but to most people the lies and misinformation get in the way of the truth

Disengage that sheep mentality....think for yourself

 

[Generic]

I think it's a mistake to make this about Chelsea or give her attention in any manner beyond her function in cycle of shaming their hive mind unleashed(in a coordinated manner) on a specific set of targets, namely Alec Holowka. This is a study in Cancel Culture.

Fuck all the GG, ERA, Twitter troll wars. The focus should be on revealing the inner workings of Cancel Culture and establishing a precedent of legal defense against witch hunts and means securing damages from any place of employment that punishes it's employee based on Twitter rumors. Then the government needs to step in and regulate, fine, and break down these social media giants. They are a curse upon mankind.

Yeah, no. There's no middle ground in this case, Gamegaters are right and Zoe Quinn, as well as the people who side with her, are wrong. Drop from the fence already. This IS about her, she is a complete sociopath who caused all this mess.

 

[funking giblet]

Depression Quest is Bandersnatch guys

In that, I chose the bad ending, and now I'm RESET to GAF

 

[The Cockatrice]

https://twitter.com/unburntwitch

Guess whos back, back again, Zoe's back, cancel your life.

 

[Codswallop_]

You won't get rid of them...that's the problem...they own the house you are all partying in and most of the people on era are completely oblivious to what's really going on

The sooner the good people realise that the site they are on was created from lies and years of sabotage here they will finally understand that it wasn't the good people that left and started their own site.....it was the bad ones and the supposed good people all fell for the bait

Here is a much better place but to most people the lies and misinformation get in the way of the truth

Disengage that sheep mentality....think for yourself

I agree, I meant if ERA implodes on itself and there was a migration back to here. Let the rats go down with the ship.

 

[TLZ]

https://twitter.com/unburntwitch

Guess whos back, back again, Zoe's back, cancel your life.

I don't know if I should laugh or cry at this. It's both funny and sad at the same time.

 

[Riven326]

Why are you treating her with kid gloves? She is a horrible person and a scam artist that's literally cashing in on her toxic persona. If I, or anyone else, wants to criticize her for any reason it's fair game and it's her getting off lightly compared to what she's done to countless others.

With that said, she'd be better off wearing that mask.

Why do they always look like this?

 

[Doczu]

She's no Proxy Paige... wai

You think she has a comparable... capacity?

 

[funking giblet]

You think she has a comparable... capacity?

Hair and History

 

[Zangiefy360]

Why do they always look like this?

I think it's because she knows she can prey on lonely gamer dudes with low standards and the urge to white knight.

 

[Riven326]

I think it's because she knows she can prey on lonely gamer dudes with low standards and the urge to white knight.

Yeah, but... goddamn. Those are some low fucking standards.

 

[Oldwivestale]

Statements by Jennifer Dawe. She makes claims about talking to Alec about being abused by Zoe and Alec himself saying that Scott and others didn't want him to tell his side of the abuse years earlier. Of course the credibilty of Jennifer is up in the air as we don't even know how she knew Alec but if she is telling the truth then this is pretty big.

 

[Scopa]

Yeah, but... goddamn. Those are some low fucking standards.

Lonely nerds are thirsty. If you were starving, you’d probably fight a shark for some meat.

 

[petran79]

https://twitter.com/unburntwitch

Guess whos back, back again, Zoe's back, cancel your life.

Twitter has banned accounts for less but I guess even Twitter mods fear for their lifes from her and her lunatic fans

 

[Dr. Claus]

I agree, I meant if ERA implodes on itself and there was a migration back to here. Let the rats go down with the ship.

I can 100% guarantee they would not last long under the current moderation we have here. Their constant push for violence and blatant racism would earn them a quick ban.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Why do they always look like this?

I know what you mean. Some of it is due to poor upbringing and bad parenting. Some parents just don't give a shit how to raise a kid. But then there are some parents who do best they can (even a good job), but the kid still rebels trying to be popular doing their own thing.

How come all these big lefties never just look like normal family folks? Or typical young people hanging downtown on a weekend or at a ballgame.

Why is it that hard to have standard photos where you don't look weird? Here's some random photos I found online.

 

[Danny Dudekisser]

lol, I like that you have to post normal pictures of people, to level set on what normal people look like. I guess that's what it's come to.

 

[Codswallop_]

There's a startling lack of hair dye in those photos.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

I think it's because she knows she can prey on lonely gamer dudes with low standards and the urge to white knight.

Yeah, but... goddamn. Those are some low fucking standards.

If someone is going to White Knight it, at least go after Maid Marian and not Friar Tuck.

 

[The Mad Draklor]

I know what you mean. Some of it is due to poor upbringing and bad parenting. Some parents just don't give a shit how to raise a kid. But then there are some parents who do best they can (even a good job), but the kid still rebels trying to be popular doing their own thing.

How come all these big lefties never just look like normal family folks? Or typical young people hanging downtown on a weekend or at a ballgame.

Why is it that hard to have standard photos where you don't look weird? Here's some random photos I found online.

Because they think looking weird, preferring "they", or saying that they sexually identify as non-binary makes them special when in fact, they're actually unhinged.

 

[Punished Miku]

Why should she be treated with kid gloves?

This isn't really a brute force fight, it's a PR fight. They are actually winning on the brute force front in every way. They can shape any narrative they want in every major media source, and no matter what we do they will always paint us as extremists.

All we win over are the normal people that are horrified when they see this act for what it is, and seek refuge. If the normal people see us as aggressive, angry and crazy extremists, then we don't win any PR fight either.

But I'm not telling anyone how to act honestly, just an observation. Everyone reacts a little differently depending on their mood at the time.

 

[ExpandKong]

Because they think looking weird, preferring "they", or saying that they sexually identify as non-binary makes them special when in fact, they're actually unhinged.

I’ve always thought of it as this perversion of the innate desire in all of us to stand out in some way and be exceptional (not “exceptional” mind you) combined with laziness.

Becoming good at the violin, for example, takes time and effort. It’s much easier to dye your hair some unnatural color and self-diagnose as whatever’s trending lately. I’m surprised Chelsea waited as long as she did to come out as non-binary.

People claiming they have anxiety issues really pisses me off, too. If you’ll permit me to get anecdotal in here, I know exactly one person in real life with an actual verified professionally diagnosed anxiety disorder and she does. Not. Talk about it. I’ve known her for nearly twenty years now and she only told me like twelve years in and hasn’t ever mentioned it again.

I dunno, maybe it’s just her? Maybe it’s different from person to person but I don’t get the feeling that people who actually have these kind of conditions celebrate them. Like, when you come at me with “bipolar / poly / non-binary / xer-xim” before I even know your last name I’m not thinking “wow this person is unique” I’m thinking “wow this person wants attention real fucking bad.” It tells me all I need to know about you while also telling me nothing at all of substance.

I’m ranting now I guess.

 

[Hulk_Smash]

BBC arent impartial at all. They (barely) covered up Jimmy Saville's crimes (he was major in BBC, and everyone knew, he used violence to silence (oops rhyme)) , and also - get this, reported on a 9/11 building collapse BEFORE it happened - (thats for another time but hey..)

Fuck outta here with that loose change conspiracy bullshit. Stuff was disproven a long time ago.

 

[Halo is Back]

Fuck outta here with that loose change conspiracy bullshit. Stuff was disproven a long time ago.

Yea there are idiots who still believe that crap but they aren’t worth the oxygen to debate

 

[pedoera is gay]

This thread ia making me want to kill myself, meaning i'd be zoe's second victim. Can we turn this into a thread about someone pretty and nice? I propose jane levy of "suburgatory."

 

[Hecaton117]

Upper Echelon Gamers has put together a video on this very topic.



It covers three cases; James Charles, Projared and Alec Holowka.

It goes over a number of subjects including the definition of cancel culture and it's effects, how it circumvents due process and seeks to disable its victims from being able to mount a defense while destroying their reputation and livelihood, and something I didn't consider but how the "victims" in some of the cases examined attempted to use the publicity granted from their allegations to promote their own businesses (Tatti and Chai are specifically mentioned here).

ECG's videos and arguments are pretty well put together as this one has everything you need to explain and showcase why cancel culture, a thing that some people don't seem to think exists is bad.

 

[trikster40]

https://twitter.com/unburntwitch

Guess whos back, back again, Zoe's back, cancel your life.

How the hell does she have 123k followers? And she says she makes games. Plural. That’s a lie.

 

[Danny Dudekisser]

https://twitter.com/unburntwitch

Guess whos back, back again, Zoe's back, cancel your life.

So, the statute of limitations on feeling bad about driving a guy to suicide is less than a week?

 

[ExpandKong]

Oh hey, Zoe’s reactivated her Twitter account.

Heads up everyone.

 

[Shmunter]

Cancel culture is a far leftist failure. It’s strictly based on ideology being more important than the individual which is opposite to what compassionate people support. It’s, vile, it’s barbaric, and it’s evil.

It’s exceptionally clever by co-opting virtue of minority groups and oppressed people. If you resist the ideology, then by false equivalence you must be against minorities, gays, etc. when in reality these things are unrelated. You can be a minority, lgbt, white, red or blue and not agree with politics of intersectionality.

To justify the vial conduct these ideologues freely attribute labels to those outside the ideology. You’re a racist, you’re a Nazi, privileged; once you’re labeled there is now license to exercise a ‘moral’ right to destroy you via any means.

Im forever perplexed by anyone with a reasonable mind that supports this kind of thing. How can people be so naive?

Some material I recommend if you’ve the time...

Teen Fiction Twitter Is Eating Its Young

If you're looking for a case study in toxic internet culture, look no further than the online world of young adult fiction. That might seem surprising:

reason.com

An Attempted Suicide Forced a Tumblr Community to Open Its Eyes About Bullying

A cartoon that was about inclusion and representation brought fans of all walks of life together. How did this togetherness almost bring one girl close to suicide?

www.vice.com

 

[Halo is Back]

Think I’m going to take a break from this thread guys. There is only so much I can tolerate and that last article by Scott really got to me

 

[The Scrivener]

Aaaaaaaaaand she's back.

 

[MilkyJoe]

Sonic Fox comes out as Non-binary!

Today Sonic Fox announced on their Twitter that they are identifying as Non-binary from now on: I'm really happy for them! Now I stan harder than before lol

www.resetera.com

I take no responsibility for you feel a little dumber after you've read it though

The funniest thing in the thread is that there seems to be about a dozen different complicated definitions of what "non-binary" is

If it is so hard to explain, and people who 'get' the concept cant explain it to just simple folk, then time to look at how valid the concept is

They are out of their fucking minds.

 

[Gallard]

As a Christian, the way these people announce "I'm coming out as X, Y, Z" eerily mirrors the "I've made a decision to be saved/baptized." Followed by applause from like-minded peers. It really is their religion.

 

[Aceofspades]

Sonic Fox comes out as Non-binary!

Today Sonic Fox announced on their Twitter that they are identifying as Non-binary from now on: I'm really happy for them! Now I stan harder than before lol

www.resetera.com

I take no responsibility for you feel a little dumber after you've read it though

The funniest thing in the thread is that there seems to be about a dozen different complicated definitions of what "non-binary" is

If it is so hard to explain, and people who 'get' the concept cant explain it to just simple folk, then time to look at how valid the concept is

Wow...can someone please give Sonicfox a Nobel prize for his bravery?! What an achievement for him...sorry them..sorry it...sorry whatever

On a serious note, fuck the psychopaths in Reee and fuck Sonicfox with them . Lol

 

[dark_inferno]

Cancel culture is a far leftist failure. It’s strictly based on ideology being more important than the individual which is opposite to what compassionate people support. It’s, vile, it’s barbaric, and it’s evil.

It’s exceptionally clever by co-opting virtue of minority groups and oppressed people. If you resist the ideology, then by false equivalence you must be against minorities, gays, etc. when in reality these things are unrelated. You can be a minority, lgbt, white, red or blue and not agree with politics of intersectionality.

To justify the vial conduct these ideologues freely attribute labels to those outside the ideology. You’re a racist, you’re a Nazi, privileged; once you’re labeled there is now license to exercise a ‘moral’ right to destroy you via any means.

Im forever perplexed by anyone with a reasonable mind that supports this kind of thing. How can people be so naive?

Some material I recommend if you’ve the time...

Thank you for the links and the material. It was really good and informative. I wanted to just like it and leave it like that at first but then thought that a post like that deserves more than just a like. The ted talk was really good when it comes to not understanding the circumstances that can lead to everyone going crazy. It was just meant to be a joke and people went too far. Yet about the Alec cancel culture it was the same. We knew nothing of Alec's side and everyone just plotted against him without many questioning if the allocations are even true.

 

[Naru]

Sonic Fox comes out as Non-binary!

Today Sonic Fox announced on their Twitter that they are identifying as Non-binary from now on: I'm really happy for them! Now I stan harder than before lol

www.resetera.com

I take no responsibility for you feel a little dumber after you've read it though

The funniest thing in the thread is that there seems to be about a dozen different complicated definitions of what "non-binary" is

If it is so hard to explain, and people who 'get' the concept cant explain it to just simple folk, then time to look at how valid the concept is

This thread reads like if some AI is replying to itself, "we don't deserve him... <3 SonicFox... how can you not love him... SF stay winning... I wanna hug SF... he is so amazing... he is the nicest person etc. etc. What the fuck is this? It's reads like one of those failed Twitter AI bot you could talk to and they would answer back some nonsensical BS. Also the poor guy getting banned for replying that they means plural and is not the proper way to address a single person. Bamm! Transphobic pedantry!