Maybe they took over his GAF account. I don't know what to believe anymore!!
Xbox One new marketing, a Kinectless version and a game for 400? CBOAT: Maybe
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Maybe they took over his GAF account. I don't know what to believe anymore!!
He didnt say anything about it which is why id take this with a truck of salt, cboat isnt right all the time. Most of what ntkrnl prophesied has come true, just waiting for titan fall bundle to be either debunked or made official to make my mind up on him.
PeskyToaster
Member
Will the included game be Kinect Sports Rivals?
They've got co-marketing for Destiny too, which will be huge.
krypt0nian
Banned
At price parity, you still have to prove value. And it's not like xbox has some sort of exclusive battle won.
I mean shouldn't the $99 Gamecube have skyrocketed?
Correlation does not imply causation. We've see enough gens play out to know tech specs or price alone aren't determining factors for victory, it's usually a lot of things. And if tech specs were really that important we'd all be playing PCs.
It likely has more to do with the price, Sony's pedigree for exclusives, not making a single misstep in the last year, and Xbox One being so expensive. Even with a price drop on Xbone Microsoft has to contend with PS4's goodwill and momentum. Tough road ahead for MS unless they have some killer games up their sleeve with that Kinect-less SKU and price drop.
TemplaerDude
Member
Really? Wow, I didn't know that, that is huge.
Quadraphonic
Member
Microsoft has to be fucking insane if they're going to languish all the way to May before they cut the price.
Yep. Probably Assassin's Creed too. Sony's gotten way better at the co-marketing deals.
Yeah, but that's locked for September. If MS is waiting for May they would probably announce this bundle at E3, if they decide to do it.
Glorified G
Member
A 10 year old remake? Who does that appeal to besides Halo fans that were going to buy an Xbox One regardless?
They should add a year's worth of Gold so they game can actually be playable.
JunkyardJeff
Banned
Kinect 2.0 is easily worth an extra $100 - for exercise games alone. I'm loving Xbox Fitness. Dropping the Kinect would be a mistake me thinks
Meant for the now closed thread, re: this notion that Kinect is a "differentiator":
MS squandered whatever opportunity Kinect as a differentiator offered them. Sony could easily muddy the waters in terms of the distinctions it provides between the platforms, in no small part because MS has given them ample time to catch up. There's not going to be a meaningful, decent-sized catalog of Kinect-specific software anytime soon given the rate they're going and the rest is just OS-level stuff that Sony already matches in large part and can achieve much closer parity through future updates. They can partner with someone like Google for video chat in heartbeat, for example. Simple checklist marketing could easily reduce the whole Kinect differentiator to a footnote without much effort.
MS squandered whatever opportunity Kinect as a differentiator offered them. Sony could easily muddy the waters in terms of the distinctions it provides between the platforms, in no small part because MS has given them ample time to catch up. There's not going to be a meaningful, decent-sized catalog of Kinect-specific software anytime soon given the rate they're going and the rest is just OS-level stuff that Sony already matches in large part and can achieve much closer parity through future updates. They can partner with someone like Google for video chat in heartbeat, for example. Simple checklist marketing could easily reduce the whole Kinect differentiator to a footnote without much effort.
Mushroomer25
Member
Hmm. Still betting it's not gonna happen. They've spent so much effort prioritizing the Kinect up to this point, and the key to success is ensuring it's in every SKU on shelves. Letting it go now is calling defeat on a multi-million dollar investment - and that's only happening if their sales are absolutely abysmal.
The sales drop in January is to be expected. No new software, post-Xmas lull, general disinterest... But once Titanfall drops, none of that is to be concerned.
The sales drop in January is to be expected. No new software, post-Xmas lull, general disinterest... But once Titanfall drops, none of that is to be concerned.
krypt0nian
Banned
Totally agree. I never meant to imply that it was ONLY the power. But at price parity it will play a part IMO.
If SONY hammers home the power difference in ads, whoooboy.
EchoChamber
Member
No because it came so late into a Playstation 2 dominated generation that it was bound to struggle as did the original Xbox.
Black Mantis
Member
Yeah, just got into that properly 3 weeks ago and it's really awesome.
Couple that with the continued reports that insiders want MS to bail put of the industry or sell the brand and the fact that internal strife within MS is sure to continue and yeah, it's quite a fight.
No, Titanfall being on 2 other platforms limits its effectiveness to be a system seller for the Xbox One. Had Microsoft been able to get the game solely on the Xbox One, then yes it would have made an impact.
For the most part, everyone assumed Microsoft finally outed him after that huge Titanfall/Xbone leak thread. Good to see that's not the case though.
you shouldn't need Kinect to do voice commands. Just let people use a headset, problem solved.
The rest so far has been comically gimmicky gestures and horrendous titles like Fighters, so they should abandon ship.
Psychotext
Member
I know I'm probably the only person here who would say this... but without Kinect there's pretty much nothing about the X1 that I'm interested in. I'm betting that if they release a Kinectless version then you can pretty much guarantee that devs will stop bothering to use it (or even trying). If that's the way it goes then I reckon I'll definitely never end up picking one up.
Dr. Kitty Muffins
Member
It seems like a long time has passed since we got any significant Sony leaks (good or bad). Most of the leaking has tilted strongly toward the Xbox side of things. It gets kind of dull hearing only negative Xbox news all the time.
Osiris
I permanently banned my 6 year old daughter from using the PS4 for mistakenly sending grief reports as it's too hard to watch or talk to her
If this starts spreading around they are going to have to get out front of it and deny it, or crater sales even more by virtue of more people holding off for a drop/kinectless version until May/June.
Uncle Rupee
Banned
Exactly. The Kinect thinks a standing lamp is a person.
Coffee Dog
Banned
English speaking forum.
Are there a lot of people like that? 'Cause I can't stop hearing about how Halo 4 was this terrible, awful game that may as well not even be Halo and how Destiny, on the other hand, is lookin' real good.
And right now, Sony is setting up Destiny to be a PS game in the same way CoD is an Xbox game.
For the record though: I loved Halo 4 and I don't deny there are still a lot of diehards will do exactly what you say.
Iacobellis
Junior Member
Sony has really tightened up on leaks since the PS3 days. I prefer being legitimately surprised at E3.
Kinect will still be sold. All it's really used for is UI navigation right now and none of that changes by stripping out of the box.
Juliet's 8½ Spirits
Banned
I can't see them dropping 100$ off this quickly, especially with their first official price drop. My guess is they're going to drop 50 and include a game or xbox live.
Sub_Level
wants to fuck an Asian grill.
It is basically Sensui from Yu Yu Hakusho.
Last gen PS3 was Toguro (this game is only using 80% power!)
Synless
Member
Where is the counterpoint? Outside Titanfall I'm not seeing it. I have no doubt Sony will beat them in this category in time as well.
Dont forget the hardware.
The point that price alone doesn't matter still stands when you consider that Gamecube was $100 cheaper and more powerful than PS2 when it released just 18 months later, and still was met with a lukewarm reception.
Sony has a reputation among gamers for great games and value across a number of demographics. They've played all their cards right and deserve the success. It wouldn't be right if they were losing in any way.
Yeah, that's exactly how the PS4 handles voice commands, but I hate the idea of having to wear headphones all the time. Perhaps they could build a mic into the box itself.
About the gestures, they don't work for me half the time, and honestly they're counterintuitive.
Kinect, in my opinion, isn't at a stage yet to be able to fulfill Microsoft's vision or meet people's expectations. It's simply not accurate enough. I'd like to see Microsoft keep working on it though.
miDnIghtEr20C
Banned
I don't believe they'll give up Kinect. I think they're just going to suck up losing 100 bucks. It's MS. They have the money. They should of done that from the get go.
Not even close to the same. I'm not coming in the house and then grabbing a head set to make commands to turn on my everything. I walk in the room home from work and say Xbox On... EVERYTHING turns on. My TV, receiver and Direct TV all turn on. Having to put a head set on imo is not the same as just walking into a room and just start saying commands. It's an awesome feature if you have your whole home entertainment system hooked up to it.
Not even close to the same. I'm not coming in the house and then grabbing a head set to make commands to turn on my everything. I walk in the room home from work and say Xbox On... EVERYTHING turns on. My TV, receiver and Direct TV all turn on. Having to put a head set on imo is not the same as just walking into a room and just start saying commands. It's an awesome feature if you have your whole home entertainment system hooked up to it.
RedNumberFive
Banned
This is what happens when you misread your consumer and say "fuck it, we know better".