Watch_Dogs downgradeaton confirmed
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meanspartan
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I don't know what it is about it either- something just felt "right" about that game. I finished GTA V and don't get me wrong, I think it was a very good game, but something was missing.
And no significant amount of guns for the first third or so was also pretty amazing and refreshing. Even after, there was still plenty of hand to hand combat. The graphics on PC were glorious and the game ran like a charm, all in all, just wow. It was one of those games that came out of nowhere too, I bought it cuz it was $10 or so last Steam Summer Sale. I had never followed it before and only vaguely knew it existed. Well done to whoever made it, and I hope a sequel happens.
As for Watch Dogs, I hope it feels closer to Sleeping Dogs than GTA. Or, even better, I hope it forges it's own identity.
maneil99
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It didn't look great visually anyway, lets hope its not downgraded further, gameplay concept looks awesome
Great Jimquisition video here on this topic, not sure if posted already.
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/jimquisition/8876-Watch-Dogs-A-Vertical-Slice-Of-Steaming-Bullshots
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/jimquisition/8876-Watch-Dogs-A-Vertical-Slice-Of-Steaming-Bullshots
Ploid 3.0
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Yeah, I'm not sure if anyone gave people a heads up in this thread though, so posting it is still useful here.
Thread to join the discussion on this episode.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=782117
N7Commander95
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Yeah of course, silly me. Battlefield 4 s another example, I mean exactly the same on both consoles. Same with COD ghosts /s
Be real, Assassin's creed 4 was just rushed
When player is walking around, he will look more closely the cars on the street to decide which one he is going to drive. When player is driving around, he will look more closely cars in front of him to avoid collisions. None of them is the "player car".
We can play tennis forever. Doesn't change the fact that it's entirely possible that the farthest camera can cause a change in car lod. You can see LOD changes in 2012 reveal too, and decal z-fighting, and slowdowns, and artifacts when bokeh interacts with glow shader, .... but reveal had higher density of effects to mislead and wow people. That's enough evidence to determine that it was not a "target render". That and there are several different gameplays of that reveal.
larrybird33
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Source: http://duuro.net/watch-dogs-get-new-screenshots/
These are supposed to be new screens apparently - look very much like bullshots. If this is what Ubi have put out after the 'downgrade' controversy, then I don't think they'll be winning anyone back with obviously and heavily doctored screen shots.
Those are bullshots. Are not real.
Pestilence11
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Source: http://duuro.net/watch-dogs-get-new-screenshots/
These are supposed to be new screens apparently - look very much like bullshots. If this is what Ubi have put out after the 'downgrade' controversy, then I don't think they'll be winning anyone back with obviously and heavily doctored screen shots.
If those are in fact new then I'm at a loss for words.
GlamFM
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They really have no shame.
I know, but this game should look like this in cutscenes. I hope.
blastprocessor
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Want to believe above screenshots but need to see a game play video. Not falling for it Ubisoft.
Pretty much.
TUROK
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That's what a bullshot is. Something rendered at a really high resolution and downscaled.
These go beyond bullshots, though. These actually look doctored.
larrybird33
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Ahh whoops - sorry guys old news! :S
kriskrosbbk
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Didi you see EDGE's cover?
Source: http://duuro.net/watch-dogs-get-new-screenshots/
These are supposed to be new screens apparently - look very much like bullshots. If this is what Ubi have put out after the 'downgrade' controversy, then I don't think they'll be winning anyone back with obviously and heavily doctored screen shots.
I'm calling Bullshots on this. I don't believe Ubi for one second. I think these are highly doctored/photoshopped to trick us into thinking it hasn't down graded. If it's true then I'll definitely shut up but I'm almost definitely sure it isn't.
Brianimaniac
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That guy has some kind of serious mental issues.
I don't know if you're familiar with the actor Adam Baldwin (Firefly, Chuck), but his Twitter feed is a non-stop torrent of anti-liberal, anti-Obama rhetoric. All day, every day. Jeremy Conrad's Twitter feed is the same, but just replace terms like "Obamacare" with something like "Xbot" and you pretty much have it.
I don't follow either of those guys, but every few months I'll remember they exist and say to myself "I bet if I looked right now, their Twitter feed would have rants about ____ in the first few posts", and they never let me down. At that point it goes beyond opinion into genuine mental illness.
For a console game, yes, a high resolution downsampled screenshot is a bullshot because you can't see that quality in final game. For a game with pc version, I call it bullshot when is something different. Only a difference in resolution is not a bullshot for a pc game, because you can have that quality some day in some pc. Those are bullshots because are mounted with the elements rendered separately and altered with photoshop afterwards.
I know what you mean, I like Adam Baldwin as an actor, started to follow him on twitter but then had to stop because of all of the political rants just getting annoying.
Also let me present the bullshit detector - check the turorials first. You can use any image you want.
http://fotoforensics.com/
http://fotoforensics.com/
Vinterbird
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I think calling them screenshots is jumping the gun. They're more of mood pieces, renders or something closer to "the experience of Watch Dogs", which is what works great in mainstream context but probably won't fly with people looking for actual ingame shots.
Uncle Rupee
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Call them whatever you want, if it's not representative of the actual in-game graphics then it's bullshit
Betta Lines
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It's only bullshit if Ubisoft have released them as 'in-game screenshots'.
jacksepticeye
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Ubisoft think gamers are idiots
Vinterbird
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Maybe to you, but pictures that present a "this is what it feels like" have a place in the marketing. Same way as CGI trailers have, they sell the overall experience and world, and that allows for an easier way to get a message across rather then gameplay-video.
Not everything in a marketing cycle is going to be aimed directly at the hardcore gamer, and this is an example of that.
ZehDon
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I disagree with this position. Releasing "images" from an "upcoming game" really should automatically qualify those images as screenshots unless stipulated otherwise. It seriously concerns me that the default position has become: all released images - "screenshot" or otherwise - are entirely fake and doctored regardless, unless we are told explicitly that those exact image are not, and even then they actually aren't representative of the version of the game that they're advertising, nor representative of the asset quality that will be included in any version of the game.
Do people really think that this is acceptable? If Ubisoft releases an image from Watch_Dogs, I think that it is entirely logical to believe that the image is from the game Watch_Dogs, unless they state otherwise.
Betta Lines
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They put messages like 'not actual game footage' in certain tv trailers for games, so perhaps that should be compulsory for screenshots too. But as it stands, it's not, and almost everyone is making bullshots, so it's best to assume the opposite - bullshot unless stated otherwise. There is a grey area anyway - at what point does something go from a deliberately misleading enhanced screenshot to a piece of promotional artwork (to go on posters, boxart, etc)? If the rules were tightened up on this, you'd get 'not in-game screenshot' or something similar written on the front of every box, much like you get 'serving suggestion' on the front of packaged food with a heavily-doctored photo on the front. I think it's unnecessary.
What the hell is wrong with Ubi's media dept then? If that's the case someone should be fired for this.
psn
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Lets hope for the best, but then again its Ubisoft..
Wishmaster92
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Yes, but you also said that it looks better now than the 2012 demo, which is straight up lying.
dgrdsv
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...Then PS4 runs @60fps while XBO is @30.
Harlock
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I think is 30fps on both.
That's not crazy, that's a perfectly reasonable opinion. SD was the better game for me as well. Bigger is not always better, and sometimes more is just more.
Probably not feasible. I doubt the mission and the location exist in the retail build in any form that'd make comparison worthwhile.
Maybe PC now looks better than E3 2012 :O
That is exactly what was said:
PS4 will look like E3 2013
PC will look better than E3 2012
He promised new PC footage in a later tweet, though the way things are going we'll probably see that footage a week after the release.
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