Captain America: The Winter Soldier |OT| "Before we get started...

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Got an email at work that I could go to an advanced screening in CT tomorrow night. Too bad I am working until 10pm. Dammit. Still gotta wait for the 4th.
 

K444WSR

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Saw it today (UK here) and I have to say that they really upped the ante with this. The first was already one of my fave phase one flicks and this looks like it'll end up being my fave fave of phase two.

Just going to echo what has been said already in this thread, Marvel need to get the person who did the fight choreography on all of their projects. They did an excellent job translating what I always imagined the Captain's fighting style would be like. Fast, fluid and brutal.

Post credit scene with Pietro and Wanda was awesome. Hyped for Age of Ultron!!
 

War Peaceman

You're a big guy.
Saw it today (UK here) and I have to say that they really upped the ante with this. The first was already one of my fave phase one flicks and this looks like it'll end up being my fave fave of phase two.

Just going to echo what has been said already in this thread, Marvel need to get the person who did the fight choreography on all of their projects. They did an excellent job translating what I always imagined the Captain's fighting style would be like. Fast, fluid and brutal.

The Russo's do action brilliantly. I believe they've been earmarked for a potential sequel?

It is still so weird that we in the UK get this first.
 

Zaph

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Also I have to say that all the main characters were awesome, it was sorta indeed Avengers 1.5 like some people have been saying.
I didn't follow any of the hype/trailers (this was even my first Marvel film in a cinema) but after watching it last night, I completely agree, the scope of this film was off the chain, totally felt like Avengers 1.5.

Fantastic film start to finish, never a dull moment. While it wasn't the biggest action scene of the film, the
Cap vs. jet plane
near the beginning was my favourite. It was so well shot and so effortless.
 

DodgerSan

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At my screening, half the audience left as soon as the credits hit. Leaving before the second post credits scene is understandable.. but if you're that excited enough about a movie to watch it on day 1, surely you can wait 1 minute for an extra scene.

Happens every time. So desperate to get back to their phones and cigs.
 

K444WSR

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Reading about Cap kicking ass effortlessly pleases me.

Just a lil over a week until it hits the US.

You will not be disappointed.

Also LOVED the fact that they made Falcon and The Winter Soldier like a boss. Marvel can not put a foot wrong at the moment in my opinion.
 

voodooray

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It is still so weird that we in the UK get this first.

Not sure if anyone else here was watching it at the Waterloo IMAX, but I thought it was weird how all the poster collateral showing on the screen dated the movie as released on 4/4/14. Maybe it was just borrowed US marketing material, but I was also wondering if this got moved up recently or something.
 

NotLiquid

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I liked the last one. I just think these are hard to take after Avengers. The villain in Iron Man 3 wouldn't draw the interest of Shield? He fought toe to toe with Thor in Avengers, but gets shredded easily by humans.

I skipped Thor 2, but I'm interested in praise like this for Captain America.

Well, in the case of Iron Man 3 it's not really a matter of gaining the interest of Shield. The point of The Avengers was to assemble a group of super humans to fight the battles that they could not do on their own. They're basically an attack team on a global scale. The Mandarin incidents were for the most of the part American-focused political issues built around numerous isolated incidents. That and in the case of the armors you could make the case that Tony stress-built all of them due to the quantity and how they all fall apart, as well as the other Avengers probably being up to other things.

I haven't seen Thor 2 yet, but The Winter Soldier feels like the first movie that actually raises the stakes in terms of the implications that Phase 2 spell out for the cinematic universe. Iron Man 3 felt like a movie merely depicting a world existing in the fallout of The Avengers, but Captain America 2 is quite a dark movie that sticks to it's themes about how the world will always change and adapt, with many things being lost in the process. Hell it's got some subtle messages to say about the way we live in the real world.

I haven't mentioned this before but damn, the villains in this movie were the first time I felt legitimately unsettled by any Marvel villain. At first I thought The Winter Soldier wouldn't really amount to much but the first time you see him and what he does, you will literally go "oh shit".

They also mentioned Stephen Strange

I didn't expect the audience to catch onto that but I literally heard murmurs all around me when that popped up. So good.
 

enigmatic_alex44

Whenever a game uses "middleware," I expect mediocrity. Just see how poor TLOU looks.
*sigh* so it looks like Chris Evans WILL be retiring from acting after he's done with Cap :( but he's gonna finish his Marvel contract so likely Cap 3 and Avengers 3.

seeing as he's my #1 fave actor, this news breaks my heart </3
 
Love all this postive buzz im hearing about how the Russo brothers handled the action and camera work. Basically sounds like theyre the directing team that Nelvedine/Taylor (Ghost Rider2, Crank films) should have been...
 

RatskyWatsky

Hunky Nostradamus
Except Thor 2 doesn't have the critical acclaim that this movie is getting so far. And if you actually read the reviews on rotten tomatoes, you'll see that the movie is rather well received.

I read all of the blurbs on the RT page, all 28 or so of them, and they read only marginally better than the Thor 2 reviews. Though I will admit that there are far fewer rotten reviews for Cap 2 thus far (though to be fair I'm comparing Cap 2's critical consensus to a film that has way more reviews because it came out months ago).

But go ahead and ignore all the positivity on this and go rent it on DVD

I'm not ignoring all the positivity. I'm just trying not to get swept up into the hype like I was with Thor 2.

you've obviously made up your mind going so far as to trash two marvel films

Saying that I thought that Thor 2 was mediocre doesn't equate to "trashing" the film. lol I also never "trashed" Cap 2 - I just said I didn't think it looked good based on the trailers.

Now that's something I find hard to believe.

Soo, are you gonna back that up, or what?

Oh brother.

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Just saw it, I think it's one of the best Marvel Cinematic Universe movies.

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Saw it tonight. Its probably my favourite out of all the marvel films.

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Just came back, really liked it

Avengers > Thor 2 > Cap Am > Thor > Hulk > Iron Man > IM3 > IM 2 .

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Big improvement over the first film and one of Marvel's better films in the MCU. I'd even say it's the best non-Avengers MCU film since...say, Iron Man?

etc.
 

voodooray

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*sigh* so it looks like Chris Evans WILL be retiring from acting after he's done with Cap :( but he's gonna finish his Marvel contract so likely Cap 3 and Avengers 3.

seeing as he's my #1 fave actor, this news breaks my heart </3

I took it more as him doing fewer acting roles, in order to allow him more time to focus on directing.

IGN reported he still had 3 films left, as he negotiated from having to do 9, down to 6.
 

War Peaceman

You're a big guy.
Thor 2 was really fun but was largely carried by the charisma of Hiddleston and Hemsworth. There some fun bits in London and some great set designs but it was a messy, unfocused film. It is all over the place tonally and was the last minute changes for more Loki are obvious (but perhaps for the best in spite of that?).

CA2 by contrast, feels like a very well produced film that has strong performances from a big cast, a clear narrative that thematically links the characters and develops the wider narrative of the universe. It handles a lot of different threads with a real efficiency. No Marvel film is great amongst wider cinema but this is definitely the most polished production of theirs.
 

Replicant

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*sigh* so it looks like Chris Evans WILL be retiring from acting after he's done with Cap :( but he's gonna finish his Marvel contract so likely Cap 3 and Avengers 3.

seeing as he's my #1 fave actor, this news breaks my heart </3

Cheer up. He did say he may changed his mind by the time the whole thing is over:

http://variety.com/2014/film/news/c...-hes-ready-to-leave-acting-behind-1201144687/

Some excerpts:

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For Evans, the &#8220;Captain America&#8221; experience has been mostly positive. He credits the series with enabling him to land his dream job. &#8220;Without these movies, I wouldn&#8217;t be directing,&#8221; he reckons. &#8220;They gave me enough overseas recognition to greenlight a movie. And if I&#8217;m speaking extremely candidly, it&#8217;s going to continue to do that for as long as the Marvel contract runs.&#8221;

After wrapping &#8220;Avengers&#8221; at the end of the summer, Evans plans to helm another feature later this year, and he&#8217;s looking for scripts. &#8220;I put everything in &#8216;1:30 Train,&#8217;&#8201;&#8221; he says. But whether that film succeeds or not, he feels confident he&#8217;ll get another shot at directing. &#8220;That&#8217;s not a luxury that most people are afforded,&#8221; he points out.

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He got his start in showbiz at 17, when he interned at a New York casting agency and convinced a client to sign him. His first break was in short-lived 2000 Fox TV series, &#8220;Opposite Sex,&#8221; followed by 2001 spoof &#8220;Not Another Teen Movie&#8221; and 2004 thriller &#8220;Cellular.&#8221; &#8220;It didn&#8217;t really go anywhere,&#8221; Evans says of the latter film. &#8220;That&#8217;s when you start to realize just because you&#8217;re the lead in a movie, that doesn&#8217;t mean you have a career.&#8221;

Among his tentpole action turns, Evans has taken risks with smaller, gritty indie films, including Danny Boyle&#8217;s 2007 astronaut drama &#8220;Sunshine,&#8221; which grossed less than $4 million domestically. His other favorite performance was in 2011 legal thriller &#8220;Puncture,&#8221; which registered negligible grosses. &#8220;No one sees my good little movies, man,&#8221; Evans laments.

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Evans might have been born with the superhero gene. He says that he doesn&#8217;t need to train excessively hard to stay in shape &#8212; about an hour a day in the gym maintains his superhero physique &#8212; and adds that he can eat what he wants, an assertion that elicits groans from his &#8220;Avengers&#8221; colleagues.

&#8220;That&#8217;s the most irritating quote I&#8217;ve ever heard; I&#8217;m sure it&#8217;s true, and I&#8217;d like to rewrite it,&#8221; says Downey, who adds that he personally often follows a long production day with a visit to the gym. Johansson recalls nibbling on kale chips and dry popcorn on the set of &#8220;Avengers,&#8221; and turning around and spotting Evans with a handful of gummy bears and Skittles. &#8220;And that&#8217;s the fate I&#8217;ve been dealt,&#8221; she says. &#8220;I&#8217;m a girl trying to keep up with these guys.&#8221; Hemsworth would sometimes see Evans at a local gym in Albuquerque. &#8220;I have to say that for the integrity of the character, Thor could lift more than Captain America,&#8221; he quips.

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Evans admits he could change his mind in the future about his career trajectory. &#8220;For all I know, in five years, I might say, &#8216;Shit, I miss acting.&#8217; Right now, I just want to get behind the camera and make movies.&#8221; He recently had a candid conversation with his team about it. One of his agents even tried to twist his arm, asking, &#8220;What if, hypothetically, some role came along and it was great?&#8221; Evans wouldn&#8217;t budge. &#8220;We are turning a corner,&#8221; he told his rep.

You can read the long-ass story at the source:

http://variety.com/2014/film/news/ca...nd-1201144687/
 

Stoze

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*bunch of posts showing people gushing about Thor 2*

Oh god, why would they think this.

As far as the newer set of Marvel movies go, I'd say Iron Man 1> Avengers > Captain America >>>>Iron Man 2> Thor 2 > Thor 1. Haven't seen IM3 yet, don't really have the urge to honestly.

I'm hyped for this though, the action scenes look pretty damn great. I liked the first one a lot except for the fact there wasn't enough action, and the ended was retarded.
 
Just saw it yesterday and I liked it a lot. Definitely one of the top tier MCU movies, probably right up there with the first Iron Man.
 

Shaanyboi

Banned
Thor 2 was fine. The best? No. Malekith didn't leave any kind of impact, nor did his plans whole scheme. But Thor and Loki's relationship carried it, and it was generally serviceable entertainment. Human stuff included - Darcy is entertaining. She won't be missed sorely once this is all over or anything, but she's fine when she's on-screen and non-comic fans seem to like her..
 
Oh god, why would they think this.

As far as the newer set of Marvel movies go, I'd say Iron Man 1> Avengers > Captain America >>>>Iron Man 2> Thor 2 > Thor 1. Haven't seen IM3 yet, don't really have the urge to honestly.

I'm hyped for this though, the action scenes look pretty damn great. I liked the first one a lot except for the fact there wasn't enough action, and the ended was retarded.

How you gonna put iron man 1 at the top of the list and not even bother with iron man 3 which is even better

And to top it off you sat through all of cap 1 and Thor series....bruh
 

rakhir

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Watched it last night - it was awesome.
One of the best movies of Marvel, and a real sign that you can make other types of movies in with superheroes in it.
 

Spinluck

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Since I haven't seen this movie yet, and Thor 2 is being brought up.

In theory, the scope of the Thor films should be huge, huger than his Avenger teammates. They're the only Marvel movies so far outside of Avengers that deals with other realms and shit. I feel they should take the chance to expand the Universe as much as they can when those films drop.

I know Thor 1 was basically a gateway to Loki being The Avengers antagonist, but I feel like Thor 2 added nothing but that
GoTG
cameo at the end. Since Loki isn't gonna be in Avengers 2, it seems that him MAJOR THOR 2 SPOILERS:
faking his death and posing as Odin is just a set up for Thor 3
.

Not that I have a problem with it, but it just feels like it didn't do anything for Phase 2 unless I'm forgetting some crucial shit. I only saw it once on the opening weekend. I thought the 3rd act was fun, and that the film was about as good as the first.

I used spoiler tags just in case, but I assume everyone going to see Cap 2 saw Thor 2 already. lol.

How you gonna put iron man 1 at the top of the list and not even bother with iron man 3 which is even better

And to top it off you sat through all of cap 1 and Thor series....bruh

I feel like I can watch IM3 more than IM1 without getting bored. Such a fun movie, can't believe so many people hate it. It was one of those movies that really toy with you on your first sitting.

I completely forgot Cap 1 existed, lol. I honestly can only remember like 3-4 scenes from it.
 

TEJ

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I know Thor 1 was basically a gateway to Loki being The Avengers antagonist, but I feel like Thor 2 added nothing but that
GoTG
cameo at the end. Since Loki isn't gonna be in Avengers 2, it seems that him MAJOR THOR 2 SPOILERS:
faking his death and posing as Odin is just a set up for Thor 3
.

about that spoiler

there was a cut scene where odin accepted loki as his successor and that he didn't kill odin...I think...I remember seeing it somewhere. that confuses me a little on why loki faked his death...only a little
 
I appreciate how candid Evans is being about his feelings on his role as Cap, but at the same time, I do hope he finds a way to eek out some more positivity in regards to his time left with the role, which is still quite a bit.

He always looks so sad during the press stuff. He does such a great job as Cap, I hope he can build on the successes and not all the stuff surrounding it that seems to make him unhappy.
 

AMUSIX

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Not that I have a problem with it, but it just feels like it didn't do anything for Phase 2 unless I'm forgetting some crucial shit. I only saw it once on the opening weekend. I thought the 3rd act was fun, and that the film was about as good as the first.


I feel like I can watch IM3 more than IM1 without getting bored. Such a fun movie, can't believe so many people hate it. It was one of those movies that really toy with you on your first sitting.

First, as for what Thor 2 brought to Phase 2, I'm not sure it brought much. The only thing I can think of is more for Phase 3 and that's
the presence of the aether as the infinity gem of power
.

Oh, and I agree with you on IM3. I still can't understand the hate the movie gets, aside from people who bitch about the Mandarin thing (and, seriously, 95% of the time when someone is listing their criticisms of the movie, the Mandarin thing appears). The movie was so clearly a Shane Black film, and it was entertaining for that. Totally had the Lethal Weapon pacing and balance of humor and action and mystery.
 

TEJ

Member
my problem with IM3 is that it's a comedy focused on tony stark. It was a funny comedy, but from the previews I was hyped for this serious iron man action film where tony fought the
mandarin from the comics
.

It was far from being a bad movie, way better than im2, but not what I expected.
 

raven777

Member
Just got back from watching it. I really liked it. Probably my top 3 Marvel movie so far (along with Ironman1 and The Avengers)
A lot better than the first Captain America for me (the first one was the worst for me)
 

Dabanton

Member
I simply cannot take the risk of having a shit seat for this, so I just booked my D-BOX 3D tickets and from the trailer looks like the seats are going to get a workout.

The greatest thing about booking D-BOX seats is it means the anxiety of having to be rushing to get in line to get a good seat is decreased as I know its all cool.

Now if only sunday would get here quicker.
 
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