FlashbladeGAF
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Metal Gear reminded me of Ninja Scroll
Highly trained human must fight human freaks of nature while uncovering government conspiracy
and Metal gear has more american pop culture references than japanese (at least it used too)
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Should Anime Games Be Taken More Seriously?
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Metal Gear reminded me of Ninja Scroll
Highly trained human must fight human freaks of nature while uncovering government conspiracy
and Metal gear has more american pop culture references than japanese (at least it used too)
"Classic anime art style"
Of course if you go back far enough, it is all about the same in origin.
SatelliteOfLove
Member
"Should anime game fans take anime games more seriously?"
TheFLYINGManga_Ka
Member
I think Ni no Kuni is an exception because of the tone of the story and the target audience.
But other anime games, in my opinion, is hard to take seriously because of their over the top characters, silliness, and crazy narrative.
Not all of course, but most of them.
But other anime games, in my opinion, is hard to take seriously because of their over the top characters, silliness, and crazy narrative.
Not all of course, but most of them.
But that's the thing. Demon's Souls' (and probably Dark Souls' by extension) visuals were heavily inspired by the manga Berserk, which looks nothing like what many of the people in this thread consider "anime."
Metal Gear also has a lot of anime inspirations in its story as well as its art, even if they're mixed with American pop culture influences (anime/manga itself partly came out of American pop culture influences).
Man, I haven't had the time, but I really wish somebody would put together a single image/chart displaying the variety of art styles that can be considered "anime."
ricardokenshin
Member
wow, I watched the new berserk movies and read the mangas after I had played Demon/Dark Souls so I never made the connection. But now that you point it out it should be so obvious.
I need to get on buying Dark Souls 2 (been putting it off)
PandaPedinte
Member
The most important question: Is UMvC3 anime or not?
I think a lot more non-anime games should be taken less seriously. There's piles of pandering on both sides of the pond, but a lot western games pander to wants of violence, gore, and power, which is more acceptable, at least in America, than Japanese games pandering to sexual fetishes.
Good games will be taken seriously in some way or another. Some will have fans who are dedicated to the depth and intricacies of the game design, others will be marveled at for their aesthetic achievements, still others for unique, well-crafted narrative elements.
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Good games will be taken seriously in some way or another. Some will have fans who are dedicated to the depth and intricacies of the game design, others will be marveled at for their aesthetic achievements, still others for unique, well-crafted narrative elements.
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UMvC3 is incredibly anime. The MvC series is Capcom's third most anime fighter series, behind Rival Schools and Tatsunoko vs Capcom.
MyWhiteRequiem
Member
Emphasis on movement options, air dashing, a break-neck speed, and big combos?
It's anime.
ComputerMKII
Banned
I hate anime style. Sure, I did like Catherine and Katawa Shoujo but that was despite the anime style.
Candescence
Member
Kill la Kill by Platinum would be the most amazing thing ever, by the way. Just saying.
Funny thing is, the sort of art styles we consider anime/manga have their roots in Disney works (big eyes, etc). Osamu Tezuka was a huge Disney fanboy. And like anything else, there's an incredible amount of variance in art styles - you'd be hard-pressed to mistake Dragon Ball with Fist of the North Star, for example.
Funny thing is, the sort of art styles we consider anime/manga have their roots in Disney works (big eyes, etc). Osamu Tezuka was a huge Disney fanboy. And like anything else, there's an incredible amount of variance in art styles - you'd be hard-pressed to mistake Dragon Ball with Fist of the North Star, for example.
There are more good Mobile Suit Gundam games than good Level-5 games.
Yeah, that's common knowledge. We've basically witnessed two distinct branches, and many branches from those that sometimes get intertwined. See: Avatar and Totally Spies, nevermind how much western animation was produced in Japan/Korea namely in the 80s.
Not particularly hard when you release something like 2-5 a year for nearly 3 decades versus a company that's barely been around for one (in active releases anyway) and does 1-2 a year usually.
Candescence
Member
Yeah, that's what happens when cultures collide, it's one of the perks of the world becoming a more connected place. You get people sharing ideas and creating amazing things with them.
Another fun fact: Tezuka was so utterly prolific with his works that he pretty much did nearly every genre you could think of. That's why manga has so many varied genres, where as traditional western comic books are mostly dominated by superheroes. It's also partly why anime/manga actually have works that cater to girls/women that try not to be vapid or condescending that even men can enjoy, unlike the vast majority of animated stuff aimed at girls in the west (it's also why the few that actually make an effort like MLP: Friendship Is Magic aren't as popular in Japan as they are in the west, as girls shows of that kind of quality is much more common).
It's interesting to see how animation has diverged in two different cultures in such ways. And I'm thankful anime/manga is around to fill voids that western shows/comics have left - the creator of Fullmetal Alchemist is now doing a slice-of-life manga/anime about a city kid who is doing high school at an agricultural school (it's called Silver Spoon, for anyone who is curious), you'd be hard-pressed to see anything like that being made by westerners outside of webcomics.
fvng
Member
Right so it's a derivative of berserk. The more derivative something becomes the more far removed they are from the original source of inspiration. I don't look at demons souls or dark souls and say oh those berserk influences are very obvious. Those games are now a far cry from any anime influence
Side Note: Derivative is not necessarily a bad thing
Second side note: I don't believe Dark Souls or MGS would been so embraced here if they went harder with the anime influences.
Nymphae
Banned
I thought anime was an art style.
This question is too broad to be meaningful. They should be taken no more or less seriously than (a) their source subject matter or (b) the intent behind the particular work.
Expecting a more universal appreciation for the art-styles behind anime as they currently exist overlooks how "appeal" works for the individual. A larger body of anime-style work that "speaks" to a wider range of people would give the sub-medium more visibility moving forward. Wrath of the White Witch was (unfortunately) an exception in terms of its quality. That's why more people don't actively seek them out; low expectations of what they believe that style represents.
Expecting a more universal appreciation for the art-styles behind anime as they currently exist overlooks how "appeal" works for the individual. A larger body of anime-style work that "speaks" to a wider range of people would give the sub-medium more visibility moving forward. Wrath of the White Witch was (unfortunately) an exception in terms of its quality. That's why more people don't actively seek them out; low expectations of what they believe that style represents.
Crash Station
Member
Just because some people use the term that way doesn't mean it's right. Anime is really friggin broad, being a medium that covers multiple art styles including stuff that's all CG. This is anime. So is the entirely rotoscoped Aku no Hana and the super ugly Kingdom.
TheIntriguingGamer
Neo Member
I would argue that the Xenosaga games are very anime styled games (at least in the character designs) and those are great RPGs.
pretty much every good video game should be taken seriously
When licenced anime games start being worth playing, then gamers will take them more seriously. I mean really, Naruto Storm, One Piece Musou, Gundam Musou, Jojo's Bizarre Adventure AST, Every Bleach game since the DS one, the last gen DBZ fighters, they're fucking awful (to be fair, Gundam Musou 3 and One Piece Musou 2 aren't that bad but are still woefully inadequate compared to other Musou games). Most of the time, they just serve as quick fandom exploiting cash ins opposed to being worth playing at all, and that blows. What's worse is that the few anime games out there worth purchasing like the Gundam Vs. stuff will NEVER EVER EVER be released domestically.
The developers that currently have the licence for these properties need to shape up if they want to be taken seriously, because most of the stuff that's put out these days are a joke that simply isn't funny.
The developers that currently have the licence for these properties need to shape up if they want to be taken seriously, because most of the stuff that's put out these days are a joke that simply isn't funny.
Of course, the console market is mainly US + EU + Japan, the latter is the only significant representative in Asia.
Nymphae
Banned
Honest question, what about that makes it anime exactly? My knee-jerk reaction is that it isn't anime because it isn't illustrated and it doesn't use the typical anime people characteristics. I would say it's a japanese 3d animated cartoon, and I wouldn't instinctively think of this an "anime".
No no no no no.
A Kill la Kill fighting game by Arc System Works would the most amazing thing ever.
FlashbladeGAF
Member
Anime is Japanese animation... plain and simple.
Doesn't matter what style or method as long as it's produced in Japan
MyWhiteRequiem
Member
In this instance I'm referring to the gameplay style. "Anime" style fighters all share those qualities I listed.
Art style wise MvC3 isn't anime, except for a few characters.
FlashbladeGAF
Member
thats sounds more like standard japanese action game like Ninja Gaiden or Devil May Cry
and more fun than something slower with a shallow move set
I wouldn't call it anime.
I would think an "anime game" just fall into the same category of licensed IP-based games as comic book games or movies based on games. The genre would just simply depend on what type of game it is (plaformer, action, fighting, rpg, strategy and so on). I assume Ni No Kuni was originally created as a video game and not as an anime tv show or movie. If that's the case, then the game isn't based on a pre-existed medium like a comic book, manga or tv series.
it's a cartoon that's japanese in origin
Love you guys, I thought i was the only one to dream about that.
Imaishi and Kamiya clearly need to meet each other, together they could save anime and games in one shot.
OldKingDoran
Banned
well according to some people all games with an anime art style should be in one group of games.
Catherine? thats not an puzzler, its an anime game.
Chrono Trigger? anime
I'd argue XV isn't anime character design though. It felt more like the designs took inspiration from Japan itself, rather than the anime culture.
Either way, I don't think anime aesthetics should mean that the game is taken less seriously, but I can totally see why it happens. For every Ni No Kuni, you can get more questionable games like Hyper Dimension Neptunia... Then there's the anime culture itself which raises eyebrows. People just see the bad, and it probably won't change until it gains mainstream appeal, a bit like how Comics arguably became a bit more socially acceptable due to the movies popularizing it.
I think those games you listed are merely games based on aspects of anime. Their not originally licensed IP based on anime because that would apparently mean there would have to be an anime tv series, manga, toy line or an anime tv series (r some other type of product) in which is adapted into an anime that was inspired by the original product.
They went with a more western-comic art-style approach.
So anime is now a gameplay style?
Man, GAF's love for Platinum is really something since posts like these are frequent.
OldKingDoran
Banned
yeah i know. Just for the record i don't actually believe games should be grouped together based on an art style or aesthetics. i was being sarcastic but you know how well that translates in text form...
Good games encompass all kinds of styles and genres. Catherine had more of an emotional impact to me than other "serious" games like Spec Ops The Line or Last of Us
PixelNinja
Banned
I can't take anything seriously with that type of art style.
The only thing that would pull me over would be a beautifully executed plot that wouldn't make me give a shit what artstyle the game is.
The only thing that would pull me over would be a beautifully executed plot that wouldn't make me give a shit what artstyle the game is.
I don't know about "GAF," but that comment is pretty dead-on, if you're familiar with their particular styles of show/game.
My mistake. I overlooked your sarcasm.
Yikes.The chance of experiencing a well told video game story is hard enough let alone one based on anime!
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
NBA Jam can totally be an anime game!
Wonko_C
Member
NBA Jam can totally be an anime game!
Wow, is that a new Slam Dunk?
NBA Jam can totally be an anime game!
EA
Revive NBA And NFL street with animu dudes with powers.
Stand slam dunks.
Call in robot assists.
YES
