Wow, Thanks!!
Just ordered it. I just hope this site is good and the TV is actually "new" :/
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Wow, Thanks!!
Just ordered it. I just hope this site is good and the TV is actually "new" :/
They just called me 10 mins after I made the order saying "we have to cancel your order, we don't have them in stock anymore"
Sounds like the new Sonys are the way to go, but I was wondering if anyone had experience or are familiar with Curved TV's technology. Are they a fad or do they actually improve immersion/reduce eye fatigue like a reviewer pointed out. Saw a few curved tvs at Frys and they seem ok, but the big thing that I noticed was that viewing angles "seemed" better but im not sure if I'm falling for marketing.
JRW
Member
I always like to check http://www.resellerratings.com if it's my first time ordering from a site, but it appears eastcoasttv's has a good reputation: http://www.resellerratings.com/store/East_Coast_TV_s
lostinblue
Banned
Ahahah, no.
Curved TV's is a fad taken from IMAX because your vision is not "flat", it's curved, so the principle is, you see a painting, it's flat, you notice it because on top of perceiving depth of field you perceive it's also flat. Curved is a step into the direction of your perceiving it like your eyes would if you were looking out a window.
Does nothing for eye fadigue.
Thing is IMAX is a huge cinema room so a lot of points in the room can take advantage of it and yes curved canvas tech makes a lot of sense for projection... It doesn't for a 55" TV unless you want to sit at a very specific distance and be the only person in the room getting that "miraculous" angle. TV's would have to be HUGE to actually warrant being curved.
What I'm saying is that curved on a small screen, and by small I mean less than 100 inches... Is stupid.
And the reason they seem to have better viewing angles is not because they are curved, it's because the embassadors for that tech are OLED screens, whose viewing angles are like those of plasma, it puts LCD's to shame. Being a curved LCD would actually make viewing angles worse than if it was flat.
lostinblue
Banned
Short answer, W80xA sucks balls.
Long answer, W80xA is like W95xB, shitty IPS tech, it's a stinker, avoid it like the plague.
LOL.
ST60 lags because it uses shitty mediatek chips so the only way to read that is that you're suggesting a A-board upgrade being made and given out in 2014 for a 2013 model... Improvements might be possible, sure - some people are wondering if the last firmware updates did just that... But ST60 suddenly not having input lag to speak of? Never: it's by design.
Source? The 2014 models are supposed to be a major step back from last year.
sergioalb64
Member
Yeah avoid East Coast TVs, they don't have the W900A even tho you can still order it. Heck they had it at $1490 some days ago. Took a week to email me to call them to tell me.
Greystone Appliances supposedly ran out of stock the day after I ordered it. Finally tracked the last one they had at Video & Audio Center in Santa Monica CA; full price, but totally worth it.
Greystone Appliances supposedly ran out of stock the day after I ordered it. Finally tracked the last one they had at Video & Audio Center in Santa Monica CA; full price, but totally worth it.
Unknown Soldier
Member
If you order it and they ship it to you, then it's really available. Otherwise it isn't. :3
daemissary
Member
Check the individual stores' open box and clearance sections on BestBuy.com if you're lookin for a W900A.
I just got lucky and found one at my store in Portland for $1455
I just got lucky and found one at my store in Portland for $1455
I was testing out some of the last harry potter movies on my w900a, and they look pretty amazing. Considering how dark they are, the set did an amazing job with the blacks. Deathly Hallows 2 blew my mind considering how demanding it is with it's oppressive darkly lit scenes.
Im still trying to figure for movies (at night) whether I prefer Clear Plus, Impulse or True Cinema motionflow, all three of them require different backlight and gamma settings, I think im trending towards Clear Plus atm.
I was thinking, this really might have been the last "all out" Premium 1080p LCD set that isn't tricked out with gimmicks (IE curve like this years Samsung 8000) now that companies are pushing all their premium picture options to 4K.
Im still trying to figure for movies (at night) whether I prefer Clear Plus, Impulse or True Cinema motionflow, all three of them require different backlight and gamma settings, I think im trending towards Clear Plus atm.
I was thinking, this really might have been the last "all out" Premium 1080p LCD set that isn't tricked out with gimmicks (IE curve like this years Samsung 8000) now that companies are pushing all their premium picture options to 4K.
Fair Trial
Member
How's the consensus on the 42W829 (2014 model)?
I was about to buy the 46W905 but it seems like nearly every single model has issues with clouding and banding that range from bereable to really bad, particulary evident in game mode wich turns off the pseudo local-dimming.
It's unavailabe on Amazon.it and i don't feel safe with the RMA in other small sites.
Too bad only the W905 and the terrible W955 have the glossy coated panel (which is a plus for me).
I was about to buy the 46W905 but it seems like nearly every single model has issues with clouding and banding that range from bereable to really bad, particulary evident in game mode wich turns off the pseudo local-dimming.
It's unavailabe on Amazon.it and i don't feel safe with the RMA in other small sites.
Too bad only the W905 and the terrible W955 have the glossy coated panel (which is a plus for me).
eso76
Member
i can understand the excitement, but showing off a tv through
a) cellphone pictures that
b) people will view on their monitors/tv
doesn't really make a lot of sense.
Even a picture taken with the best camera in the world will only look as good as my monitor can display it, you can't possibly demo PQ of a TV...on a different (and presumably worse) tv.
geordiemp
Member
I game on a 46w905 and don't notice any of the banding and clouding ....I recall reading somewhere that the larger model is more likely to suffer being edge technology and a physically larger set... but don't quote me, I must of read 30 articles before choosing...
I guess if you set up a test specific to catch out the technology you would notice something, but mot seen it and use daily on COD Ghosts which is fast panning twitch gameplay.
After everything I read you cant really win for gaming, but the Sony set seemed to be the best for said gaming purpose (given I game 8 ft away from TV, 55 inch is too much).
PS I also read that the pink shallow viewing angle was not as pronounced on the 46 inch model which sealed the deal.
mediapulp_wes
Member
I'm looking at the kdl42w705bbu, but is this plagued by the same issues on other 2014 models, because it's reviewed well.
geordiemp
Member
Juts downloaded a greyscale band image from internet and displayed it using Ps3 photo viewer to 46w905 (900 in states) - I Used standard game mode, everything turns off and 8 ms...
I had to sit there for 5 minutes to see any possible lines or bands in the horizontal greyscales (white to black) across the screen. Sometimes my eyes would think there was a band about 75 % along towards the black end, and sometimes it looked smooth - not good for the old head staring at such an image for so long.......
http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/gradient.php
So I turned to the advice on how to interpret the results I saw...
To me on the w905 game mode the image looked better than the 'what it should look like' example in the advice page on my Samsung PC monitor. So that means its good and no issue...
I have a very recent model (bought last month) ....Don't know if that helps.
So I have zero issues with banding...
I respectfully disagree. Saw the new Samsung in person, and left impressed. Depth perception is phenomenal, even more so with 3D content, which looks a big step up already at 55´.
So for me, those things are not just good for lighthouses...
I respectfully disagree. Saw the new Samsung in person, and left impressed. Depth perception is phenomenal, even more so with 3D content, which looks a big step up already at 55´.
So for me, those things are not just good for lighthouses...
Until you try to wall mount that bitch. I'm not gonna built a curved wall for that.
Fair Trial
Member
I have no doubts that there are sets with no issues like yours, but the risk of getting something like this is real:
http://abload.de/image.php?img=ntzfiqllk.jpg (game mode)
http://abload.de/image.php?img=wp_20140325_09_54_56_ydjdk.jpg
AVSforum is full of creepy reports, so i don't know...On paper is my dream tv, but i don't want to deal with multiple RMAs.
lostinblue
Banned
3D makes a TV feel smaller already, curved and 3D.. I can't fanthom.I respectfully disagree. Saw the new Samsung in person, and left impressed. Depth perception is phenomenal, even more so with 3D content, which looks a big step up already at 55´.
So for me, those things are not just good for lighthouses...
I did say it's a fad, but I do agree that perhaps it isn't so (the rest of what I said even goes in that direction I think). But I reiterate it's stupid for a 55" screen, it's not for 100 inches or a projector, nor is it for something like Oculus Rift fixed point (in relation to the eye) screens to try and recreate that curved-ness of human vision.
I do think it's very silly for a 55" seeing it's a TV and more than one person should be able to be in the optimal zone for it.
That you can "see it" I have no doubt, problem is that you have less than 40cm at the perfect distance to sit in to take it all in. Defeats it's purpose as a living room set, and that makes it less than optimal.
Elginer
Member
OK, I figured this was the place to ask and please be gentle. I'm not what you would call a huge TV tech guy but am looking to upgrade my 7 year old 40inch 720p Samsung to something like a 50 inch Samsung. I also recently saw the new 48 inch Sony W600b
But have heard mixed things on Sony sets nowadays. Also on my list is this 55 inch Vizio new 2014 E series. I haven't heard good things about the Vizio sets. Well mixed at best I guess. I know I want LED and but also want something that will last a good 6 years in the future as my Samsung has lasted.
Oh, and I also loath that whole soap opera effect in some of these new sets. Any help and input would be greatly appreciated.
But have heard mixed things on Sony sets nowadays. Also on my list is this 55 inch Vizio new 2014 E series. I haven't heard good things about the Vizio sets. Well mixed at best I guess. I know I want LED and but also want something that will last a good 6 years in the future as my Samsung has lasted.
Oh, and I also loath that whole soap opera effect in some of these new sets. Any help and input would be greatly appreciated.
Samsung PNF8500
If I need a plasma in the next 2 months. Is this the only good Plasma out there right now?
Can't find any of the panny models :/
I've been debating between LED/PLASMA. But since I only game on the PC, I'm actually deciding right now just to get a nice TV good for TV/Movies only. No gaming.
I'll get a gaming tv as my second tv in the room later.
If I need a plasma in the next 2 months. Is this the only good Plasma out there right now?
Can't find any of the panny models :/
I've been debating between LED/PLASMA. But since I only game on the PC, I'm actually deciding right now just to get a nice TV good for TV/Movies only. No gaming.
I'll get a gaming tv as my second tv in the room later.
hey GAF, I have this old samsung 32" TV from 2009, the only good thing about it is that it supports 1080p, I think its starting to die, therefore im staring to look for a good replacement.
the only problem is that I only have 400$.. is there any decent option for that price? (good blacks, 1080p)
the only problem is that I only have 400$.. is there any decent option for that price? (good blacks, 1080p)
TheLegendary
Member
I heard (and can very possibly be wrong) that there was some update that reduced input lag on that Sammy plasma. Was looking to pick one up mostly for movies and noncompetitive gaming and from what I've heard it's adequate now. It's not going to be competitive grade worthy or anything though so if that's your primary focus it sounds like a Sony LED is what you want. Someone more knowledgeable can correct me though.
Have you like read his post at all? He is not looking for a TV for gaming. He is gaming on his PC (w/ monitor).
TheLegendary
Member
My original point was that even if he wasn't planning on using it for gaming it would potentially be serviceable if he did plan to use it for it in the future since hes saying he was going to buy a separate TV for gaming later. Thanks for protecting him from my misguided two cents though .
lostinblue
Banned
geordiemp
Member
No idea what those pictures are LOL - the first you cant even read the text on the screen...and massive reflections Someone made the picture exceptionally bad...mmmm - my phone tales better pics...something up here...Maybe they turned up everything to 100 % (contrast / brightness) to exaggerate a fault, no idea...
Second pick the banding bars go above the TV ! Really they do....and there is clouding, but again given the picture shows bands and blurs outside the TV frame god knows what the point is. Something dodgy I guess. Its not hard to take a decent photo nowadays...
I am sure there are genuine decent pics of bad sets - these are not good examples and effects outside of the TV I smell a rat.
I read Sony improved the QA late 2013.
I had same concerns and seen nothing but an excellent set, no ghosting, no bars, excellent colours, motion set to clear for football is clear as day motion on the ball and fats panning, and gaming on COD just feels fast (in good lobbies get my gryphin almost every game...Love it)
I cant tell whether I am in game mode or cinema mode, I always have to check when starting Ps4 COD, there is hardly any difference at all in PQ. There is no way picture looks like this, TV is totally knackered or someone is trolling.....
The set auto detects and switches 24p content anyway and detects games...
All lcds have ghosting and flash lighting. Anyone searching for a tv without them is going to end up chasing their own tail. You can make any lcd look like crap and take a pic. I could on mine by cranking up the backlight. Among the high end gaming lcd screens if you spend enough time with the set you can make them all look very very similar once calibrated.
So what's left is size, price, reliability, and input lag. Throwing pictures up proves nothing. I can throw pictures up that look just as good as those plasma pics from my sharp 80uq.
So what's left is size, price, reliability, and input lag. Throwing pictures up proves nothing. I can throw pictures up that look just as good as those plasma pics from my sharp 80uq.
drugstore_cowboy
Member
Noob question.
When inputting a full range signal into the W905 it doesn't seem to auto switch to full range, the picture is gaudy and crushed.
My projector also doesn't switch but I can select limited and full as needed.
edit: solved, stupid idea sticking shit like that away from the main image settings.
When inputting a full range signal into the W905 it doesn't seem to auto switch to full range, the picture is gaudy and crushed.
My projector also doesn't switch but I can select limited and full as needed.
edit: solved, stupid idea sticking shit like that away from the main image settings.
So is the Samsung PNF8500 good for movies/cable?
I wish I had gotten the Panasonics for movies, but since I can't find those, would the Samsung PNF8500 be any good, or is there a better TV out there right now than this one. Please help :/
lostinblue
Banned
It is, F8500 is a very good set for all that.
Gaming in where it fares worse due to input lag; maybe a future EVO Kit will solve it (but they're not cheap. All in all a good TV, I just don't find it very cheap in relation to Panasonic Plasmas but now they're gone.
Gaming in where it fares worse due to input lag; maybe a future EVO Kit will solve it (but they're not cheap. All in all a good TV, I just don't find it very cheap in relation to Panasonic Plasmas but now they're gone.
Tathanen
Get Inside Her!
Anyone lookin for a VT or ZT, this is the guy who sold me mine:
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1511206/panasonic-60-65-vt60-and-zt60-plasmas-like-new-nib
Pretty pricy for what's left (that used 65VT is lookin nice tho), and if you can't pick it up you'll have to shell out $300+ with someplace like Pilot Freight Services to get it delivered, but dat quality costs dem bucks.
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1511206/panasonic-60-65-vt60-and-zt60-plasmas-like-new-nib
Pretty pricy for what's left (that used 65VT is lookin nice tho), and if you can't pick it up you'll have to shell out $300+ with someplace like Pilot Freight Services to get it delivered, but dat quality costs dem bucks.
Unknown Soldier
Member
Samsung TVs are notorious for absolutely horrible input lag. They just don't care about gaming and their TVs sell so well without any regard for gamers that I doubt they will ever put in the effort to start caring.
noticed a 3rd Party Seller on Amazon with a
'Used - Like New' TC-P50S60 for $585.01, free shipping
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00ARAHBIW/?tag=neogaf0e-20
'Used - Like New' TC-P50S60 for $585.01, free shipping
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00ARAHBIW/?tag=neogaf0e-20
Orniletter
Banned
I´m literally buying a Sony Bravia KDL-42W655 (Europe/Germany) tomorrow.
Am I making a terrible mistake or is the the W655 a great bang for your buck like I´m assuming ?
A short " go ahead" or " drop it like a rock" would help me out a lot.
Thanks in advance !
Am I making a terrible mistake or is the the W655 a great bang for your buck like I´m assuming ?
A short " go ahead" or " drop it like a rock" would help me out a lot.
I don´t know much about TVs in general, I read some reviews of a similar models and they were pretty good.
Thanks in advance !
lostsupper
Banned
Go ahead. All accounts are positive, especially for games
daemissary
Member
Does anyone have a link to ideal settings for gaming on a W900A?
I thought someone posted their settings earlier in this thread but now I can't seem to find it.
I thought someone posted their settings earlier in this thread but now I can't seem to find it.
ArkkAngel007
Member
MCX has the KDL55W900A for $1499.99. Not sure if that's location specific or applies to all the major MCX stores that carry them. Likely will be in effect until they sell through all their stock.
Now y'all stay away from the Lejeune MCX.
Now y'all stay away from the Lejeune MCX.
Orniletter
Banned
Thank you so much !
I am sure this has been asked before in this massive thread, but since it was already recently bumped, is there a site or sites people recommend for tv reviews in the us?I prefer something that gets into details, but also has a tldr version score or summary at the end so I don't have to read 20 different multi-page reviews.
It seems like the majority of tv people talk about in the thread are older hard to find models.
It seems like the majority of tv people talk about in the thread are older hard to find models.
Rocket786
Member
They just called me 10 mins after I made the order saying "we have to cancel your order, we don't have them in stock anymore"
Well that sucks that they had to cancel it. I've ordered two TVs in the past two years from EastCoastTV's, with my last TV actually being the Sony W900A back in December.
The experience has been great, except that they will call you and try to upsell you on white glove delivery for like 90 bucks after you've ordered it. I've said yes both times for some reason, but the delivery was prompt and setup was quick and professional just like ordering from Amazon. I'd do business with them again. Maybe I'd try to say no to their sales pitch for white glove delivery next time, but I'm weak... =/
doctordoak
Member
I picked up the same tv yesterday. The fast response times put me over the edge. Seems great so far.
drugstore_cowboy
Member
Although there's a lot to like about LCD I'm finding it really strains my eyes. Ended up with the backlight on 0 after an hour.
Probably sitting too close but I've got no choice now.
Probably sitting too close but I've got no choice now.