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[Exile20]

Racing at 30 fps makes no sense whatsoever. At least the game will look good in stills, I guess...

So weird for a dev to choose 30 fps over 60 for a racer.

 

[Anion]

Wouldn't flashier graphics be more beneficial for a sim racer considering sim racers go for visual flair/accuracy

Haha, not really. 60 fps makes a big difference for racers. Sim racers like more accurate physics and such. The graphics just happen to be a plus.

 

[Draft]

I can't wait to see the UHD remake on PS5 @ 60 FPS!!!

 

[Acquiescence]

I'm glad they're sticking to their guns. I'd rather play a game that looks this fine at 30fps than see it take a significant hit in the graphical department so that it can reach 60.

 

[Liamario]

Not interested at that framerate. I don't care how good it looks, gameplay is paramount. You have the gameplay at its best and then you build gfx around it. It's a racing game and no amount of 'cinematic experience' nonsense can justify 30fps.

 

[MightyHedgehog]

Disappointing, but expected. Too bad top-end visuals always seem to win out over the best possible response time and visual feedback in a genre where those things are absolutely beneficial to the actual gameplay experience long after the novelty of next-gen graphics has faded from mind. I hope that this isn't the standard for console racers like it was last gen, too.

 

[CambriaRising]

So weird for a dev to choose 30 fps over 60 for a racer.

It's really not that weird.

 

[mclem]

They've restated it in yesterday's reveal, and again in the PS Blog update.
PS+ Edition will be there day one.

Oooh, I missed that. That's good news.

 

[Spottiettiedop]

Ok it looks great but how do the cars handle and is there a noticeable difference when driving each car?

 

[Bedameister]

What, people really choose 1080p over 60FPS?
I'm not cool with that. I'd rather have 900p and 30FPS than 1080p and 30FPS

 

[Sorc3r3r]

Ok?
But it has better not to drop a frame from the 30s.
Like Never.



Never.

 

[bob page]

The graphics are excellent so as long as it doesn't dip below 30 I'm perfectly fine with this.

 

[arhra]

If it's as rock-solid at 30 as Forza Horizon and PGR4 were, I'm ok with this.

If it drops, then we've got a problem. But considering that it's a closed-circuit racer and they will have had more or less an extra year to work on polishing and optimisation, I'd be surprised if that's an issue.

 

[LiK]

For racing games though? What the hell?

Yea, people defending this is baffling. But whatever. I guess they rather just park their car and stare at the graphics.

 

[jackissocool]

Totally ok with this. WipEout 2048 is the fastest and most intense racer I've ever played and that's 30fps. I never noticed.

I think it's really important for GAF to understand that almost nobody else in the world gives a shit about 30 vs. 60 95% of the time.

 

[Grover Cleveland]

All the shit forza gets for its cardboard cutout crowds (which no one sees unless you use the fantastic inbuilt recording/screen tools), but at least they managed to deliver 60 fps racing.

Makes me wonder if the next forza will amp up the track details and tone down the fps.

Zero chance. Turn 10 has always operated under the MO that its 60 fps or bust with their Forza games.

 

[Sendou]

Mario Kart 60FPS. DriveClub just 30.

They told me that I have the last-gen console but I don't see it.

 

[Interfectum]

What, people really choose 1080p over 60FPS?
I'm not cool with that. I'd rather have 900p and 30FPS than 1080p and 30FPS

 

[travisbickle]

Then when GT7 is shown it'll look better while being 1080p/60fps with more cars on the track.

So what?

 

[mrklaw]

Then when GT7 is shown it'll look better while being 1080p/60fps with more cars on the track.

your point being that Polyphony are a good developer that makes pretty looking games? Why does that make what Evo are doing any less impressive? I expect GT to have less detailed environments too, to focus on the cars above all else.

 

[AusRoachman]

From an old driveclub article

“There is a hell of a lot going on,” Perkins adds. “Increased visual fidelity does cost, there’s no argument about it. The PlayStation 4 is very capable of doing both but we’ve gone for a fully dynamic environment, so you can go any time of day, anywhere on the planet, and it’ll calculate the atmospheric density, whether you’re up the top of a mountain or at sea level.”

That sounds alot more like a sim then an arcade game to me.

 

[Megasoum]

30 fps worked perfectly well with Project Gotham Racing's gameplay, and Driveclub's is pretty much in the same ballpark mix of realistic/arcade handling.
I'm fine with 30 fps as long as there are no slowdowns ever, of course.

Same with Horizon which was amazing.

 

[Miles Quaritch]

30 fps worked perfectly well with Project Gotham Racing's gameplay, and Driveclub's is pretty much in the same ballpark mix of realistic/arcade handling.
I'm fine with 30 fps as long as there are no slowdowns ever, of course.

Exactly. It's like no-one played PGR. It was perfect and the motion blur used was off the charts. Good motion blur with 30fps is perfectly fine for me. I accept it might not be for others and that's a shame as some of the best racers have been 30fps.

 

[josecitoxnyo]

So much for the 60FPS next gen dream. I don´t care how the game looks, i want to play a racing game properly and feel the speed on tight controls, what an arcade racer should always have.

On the bright side we got a part of the game for free.

 

[Ogawa-san]

It was a good decision. Gameplay won't feel as nice at 30fps but that photo mode will look amazing!

I mean, it is what counts in a racing game, right?

 

[Alchemist]

I'm in as long it's rock solid at 30FPS.

 

[EL CUCO]

1080/60 is now the standard

Spoiler

for indies and CoD

 

[coldfoot]

I called it yesterday. I knew there was just no way to get that level of detail in graphics and maintain 60fps on the PS4.
I'll play the free PS+ version but no 60fps means no upgrade to full version for me.

I am one of the least 60fps sensitive people, I'll gladly play shooters and action games in 30fps all day long, but for racers, 30fps is just not acceptable.

 

[ElectricKaibutsu]

I had a great time with NFS:MW and that was 30. I'm curious what Project Cars will end up being.

 

[Shin]

For racing games though? What the hell?

I honestly can't tell the difference much, then again my eyesight might not be the best.
Sure games look smoother at 60FPS, but it definitely is not a deal breaker for me.
If anything I wasn't much into the game before because it looked "meh", but the delay changed all that and now I'm actually interested in it...but yeah I'm a graphics whore.

Even so just pure graphics doesn't cut it for me, gotta be a fun game/playing mechanics as well.

 

[bob page]

Mario Kart 60FPS. DriveClub just 30.

They told me that I have the last-gen console but I don't see it.

Yeah because that's a completely valid comparison.

 

[Exile20]

It's really not that weird.

Maybe I am the weird one but the difference between 30 and 60 is most noticeable for me in racers.

 

[FStop7]

I'm not an fps whore at ALL. But for racing games? High fps is preferable.

 

[jelly]

I enjoyed the PGR series and Forza Horizon so 30fps isn't a deal breaker if the game play is great.

 

[Blimblim]

Same with Horizon which was amazing.

I didn't want to use the F-Word here, just Horizon works though. And yes, it was great.

 

[Maintenance]

It was a good decision. Gameplay won't feel as nice at 30fps but that photo mode will look amazing!

I mean, it is what counts in a racing game, right?

Of course. Can't wait for the Photo Mode |OT|.

 

[djplaeskool]

Mario Kart 60FPS. DriveClub just 30.

They told me that I have the last-gen console but I don't see it.

We got jokes now.
#kappa

 

[Neuromancer]

60 would be nice but I'll sacrifice the frames for such beautiful views. Forza Horizon was 30fps if memory serves and that played just fine.

 

[mclem]

So weird for a dev to choose 30 fps over 60 for a racer.

Nah. It's simple pursuit of mindshare - flashy graphics sell, much more than framerate that you can't promote in screenshots.

They shouldn't - and I'm disappointed with this decision as a result - but it's a reality.

 

[Interfectum]

That sounds alot more like a sim then an arcade game to me.

Just because the environments are detailed doesn't mean it's a sim racer.

 

[Sendou]

Yeah because that's a completely valid comparison.

Well they're both video games so I don't see why it isn't.

 

[Saberus]

nope, no buy.



i would never buy a 30fps racer.

Well, you can enjoy the free version, that is if you own a ps4.

 

[mrklaw]

Disappointing, but expected. Too bad top-end visuals always seem to win out over the best possible response time and visual feedback in a genre where those things are absolutely beneficial to the actual gameplay experience long after the novelty of next-gen graphics has faded from mind. I hope that this isn't the standard for console racers like it was last gen, too.

I'd be curious what 'framerate' the physics and inputs work at. It is possible to have your physics still be 60Hz or higher while your graphics are rendering at 30fps. Likewise you could sample your inputs at 60Hz too.

 

[ElFly]

Sorry, but not buying.

Thanks for finally being direct about this.

 

[BruiserBear]

We knew it was coming, but still, it moves it from a maybe to a no for me. Luckily there's the free version to mess around with.

I don't think we did know it was coming. Usually when a developer says they're "targeting 60", it means they're gonna get there. Why else would you tease people with comments like that?

 

[Atlas157]

This game isn't a racing sim so 30fps is fine imo.

 

[SwiftDeath]

Well at least we know. Getting this confirmation and the release date must've near killed sony

 

[CambriaRising]

Maybe I am the weird one but the difference between 30 and 60 is most noticeable for me in racers.

I just meant that it isn't weird for a racing game to not be 60fps.

 

[~~Hasan~~]

The graphics whore in me is ok with this.

The fps whore in me..... Wait i dont have an fps whore in me.

I am ok with this. I love beauitiful looking game. This abd forza are the racers i need for this yeat and i already have limited edition forza

 

[ReplacementPelican]

Uhm, well, it does look more than a little bit better than Forza and given it's not the huge deal everyone likes to make it out as, I'm inclined to agree.