What is the best Fromsoft souls game?
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The more time passes the more i favor Demon's Souls (original). It's the most consistent, the way zones are designed with the single checkpoint, each turning you feel something might happen, it's constrained in a good way. And obviously everything was already there, the real ingredients that made the franchise famous, and the poetic atmosphere behind it.
Dark Souls 1 was my first, but the second half is just not very good. Props for the coherent world design but level-design for individual areas is not always there. Still a great game.
Dark Souls 2 is a mess, i like it but just too much crap.
Dark Souls 3 it's where i feel they started to glamourize the bosses and the i-frame dodge. I like the game but there's something that's bothering me about it, can't quite put the finger on it but it feels less authentic.
Elden Ring, too much crap too, highs and lows, a lot of shit we already know by that point but still great. I prefer the atmosphere of Souls i have to say.
Dark Souls 1 was my first, but the second half is just not very good. Props for the coherent world design but level-design for individual areas is not always there. Still a great game.
Dark Souls 2 is a mess, i like it but just too much crap.
Dark Souls 3 it's where i feel they started to glamourize the bosses and the i-frame dodge. I like the game but there's something that's bothering me about it, can't quite put the finger on it but it feels less authentic.
Elden Ring, too much crap too, highs and lows, a lot of shit we already know by that point but still great. I prefer the atmosphere of Souls i have to say.
Disciple of MSSP
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I'm not at all saying that Bloodborne is not a soul's like. I just specifically wanted the answer between these games
It happened to me on PS4. I'm usually careful to quit back to the main menu before turning off the PS4 so I don't know what went wrong.
FinalBossWithTheMostPower
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I have Demon souls remake but I never could get past that damn dragon and the bridge.
But...
Just recently copped Elden Ring with DLC for Black Friday.
Was not a fan at release and now I'm amazed. It's like Zelda but for adults. Extremely well done.
Currently level 32 at Stormveil getting my ass handed to me. Great fun though, will probably be playing all holiday break.
But...
Just recently copped Elden Ring with DLC for Black Friday.
Was not a fan at release and now I'm amazed. It's like Zelda but for adults. Extremely well done.
Currently level 32 at Stormveil getting my ass handed to me. Great fun though, will probably be playing all holiday break.
Poppinfresh
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Dark Souls 3. It's the souls formula perfected and with all the annoying bits removed - long run backs, etc.
If Elden Ring were a linear game rather than an open-world game, it would get my vote for sure. But I've got to dock it points for being open world.
If Elden Ring were a linear game rather than an open-world game, it would get my vote for sure. But I've got to dock it points for being open world.
kevboard
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you are mixing up input delay with animation delay... it has no noticeable input lag, in fact the reason From Soft games are known for bad framepacing is because they use a type of Vsync that is ultra low latency, but not great at displaying frames with a perfect cadence.
skill issue.
also you can map Jump to something else if you want... but it's not an issue whatsoever either way. it's design around that fact.
that's like saying it's bad that you can't do an instant 180° flip in tetris.
useless infusions? all that stuff is there so that you can create different builds based on different skill scalings etc.
that's pretty much a side thing that is there but can be ignored, so not sure how that's an issue.
lol what? I legit can't even fathom what you try to say here as it sounds like you are criticising boss battles as a whole here... or you just used really bad gear.
what "dumb" gating? the fuck? this applies to basically every video game
examples?
absolutely not true. like, that's just a lie, I can't even call it anything else.
it can probably be disproven by simply googling DS3 weapon tier list or something... you'll probably have 30+ weapons above A tier.
I don't mind them, and they are the least egregious in DS3 compared to any other Soulsborne
Sidequests in Soulsborne games are like that, and it's not a bad thing that they are like that.
they are optional, and they can be done if you actually try and if you actually pay attention.
uh... so the little stat bonus thingies aren't bringing the house down... how awful...
I disagree on both accounts.
? Magic is the easiest cheatcode in the game lol.
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Paltheos
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Voted Dark Souls 3 in the poll. My personal list is:
1) Dark Souls 3 - Fun and straightforward adventure with some beautiful sights. Lots of build options against a challenging but fair array of enemies. Two swamps in a row is probably the game's biggest strike. First DLC is also weaker than the rest of the game's content, bar its last boss.
1) Bloodborne - Fantastic overall aesthetic. Trick weapons are very cool and a solid replacement for longsword #17. A few too many beast-type bosses and a little short.
3) Elden Ring - Almost impossibly enormous world with seemingly neverending new reveals. Balance is completely and totally fucked, one way or the other, redeemed somewhat by the DLC. Overall game speed is also too high for a traditional Souls like.
3) Dark Souls - Famously nigh-immaculate first half. Infamously unfinished second half.
5) Demons Souls - Overall... solid. Probably would be a little too easy, going back. Some very memorable experiences.
6) Dark Souls 2 - Many, many poor design decisions. Tieing i-frames to a stat, in-your-way enemy placement, obnoxious as shit NPC opponents, Shrine of Amana and that snowy wasteland. Redeemed somewhat by its DLC.
7) Sekiro - Just not my jam.
1) Dark Souls 3 - Fun and straightforward adventure with some beautiful sights. Lots of build options against a challenging but fair array of enemies. Two swamps in a row is probably the game's biggest strike. First DLC is also weaker than the rest of the game's content, bar its last boss.
1) Bloodborne - Fantastic overall aesthetic. Trick weapons are very cool and a solid replacement for longsword #17. A few too many beast-type bosses and a little short.
3) Elden Ring - Almost impossibly enormous world with seemingly neverending new reveals. Balance is completely and totally fucked, one way or the other, redeemed somewhat by the DLC. Overall game speed is also too high for a traditional Souls like.
3) Dark Souls - Famously nigh-immaculate first half. Infamously unfinished second half.
5) Demons Souls - Overall... solid. Probably would be a little too easy, going back. Some very memorable experiences.
6) Dark Souls 2 - Many, many poor design decisions. Tieing i-frames to a stat, in-your-way enemy placement, obnoxious as shit NPC opponents, Shrine of Amana and that snowy wasteland. Redeemed somewhat by its DLC.
7) Sekiro - Just not my jam.
I think DS3 and Elden Ring are way above the others on that list. The build variety, combat and boss battles are so much better. From improved a lot of things over time.
One of the best and most memorable things for me in these games are the boss battles and the ones in DS3 and Elden Ring are a vast improvement over the earlier games. I would struggle to go back to them.
One of the best and most memorable things for me in these games are the boss battles and the ones in DS3 and Elden Ring are a vast improvement over the earlier games. I would struggle to go back to them.
Alexios
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That's a no brainer, only one of their games is more obscure than Otogi, more badass than Metal Wolf Chaos, more hardcore than any Souls, more overlooked than Armored Core. It's the Japan only モンハン日記 ぽかぽかアイルー村DX (updated version there as the first couple have no HD trailers)!
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HRK69
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You know there's no real argument left when someone just slaps a "LOL" on your point and calls it a day.
Love to see it
JimmyRustler
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Bloodborne with Elden Ring as close second.
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My level of excitement has gone down with every new release(Sekiro aside-their second best game). That's why I'd say Demon's Souls. I think whichever game you have that souls experience with first ends up being the best. I can put Elden Ring to 3rd place, but I don't want an ER 2, I just want that old 40 hour/semi open world punishment.
If I were to introduce someone to a souls game for the first time, I'd choose Dark Souls 1. It's like the OOT of souls games. Not my personal best, but it's the best overall package.
If I were to introduce someone to a souls game for the first time, I'd choose Dark Souls 1. It's like the OOT of souls games. Not my personal best, but it's the best overall package.
nnytk
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Played Elden Ring full coop with my bestie.
Which means we did all bosses and dungeons and side dungeons two times, me joining his game and he joining mine. Incredible experience. A bit too lengthy near the end but there was so much to explore, discover, build variety, it was a real blast.
Dark Souls 3 + DLC as a coop experience came close. DaS did not age well imho.
Which means we did all bosses and dungeons and side dungeons two times, me joining his game and he joining mine. Incredible experience. A bit too lengthy near the end but there was so much to explore, discover, build variety, it was a real blast.
Dark Souls 3 + DLC as a coop experience came close. DaS did not age well imho.
BlownUpRich
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Elden Ring without a doubt IMO.
Pasta la Vista
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Missing Bloodborne, thread ignored, user ignored, reported to the authorities.
Miyazaki’s Slave
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LOZ: Ocarina of Time no question.
Elden Ring (as a contemporary entry) I also give VERY high marks.
Elden Ring (as a contemporary entry) I also give VERY high marks.
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Disciple of MSSP
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Now you're getting it!
NeverYouMind
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Do a kick in Dark Souls and do it in Dark Souls 3, then realize the futility of arguing with someone that thinks the latter is acceptable.
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Ceadeus
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Sequels are better than Demon Souls in many ways, but it's where it all started. The studio and the game were still completely niche. It's one of those moments where you had to be there, when the only known way to play was to import the English Asian version. Demon Souls reviewed poorly because no one seemed to grasp the concept yet.
Werewolf Jones
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I literally just voted it lmao. Elden Ring sux.
HRK69
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Both are clunky FromSoft nonsense with no dedicated button.
DS3 just made it hit harder in a faster game
But it actually scales stamina damage with your weapon upgrades. It has way stronger guard breaks than the DS1's flat version
And Dude, seriously? Who the hell even uses kicks in Souls games? It's a super niche move for breaking turtle shields in PvP or cheesing a few shielded NPCs, but 99% of players either accidentally trigger it mid-combo or just ignore it entirely because the input's pure jank
And basing a whole "gotcha" argument on it? That's next-level DS1 purist cope
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PauloRoberto
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In pure gameplay, Elden Ring. It's the best open world game ever in terms of 'if I explore here, there's a chance ill find something ill really like'.
In all the rest, including story, Bloodborne, Elden Ring's story is too convoluted and too bloated (seriously, you can remove ALL REFERENCES of, for example, the gloamed-eyed queen, and nothing would change)
In all the rest, including story, Bloodborne, Elden Ring's story is too convoluted and too bloated (seriously, you can remove ALL REFERENCES of, for example, the gloamed-eyed queen, and nothing would change)
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RagnarokIV
Battlebus imprisoning me \m/ >.< \m/
It's all the same game lol
Icymanipulator
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Dark Souls, it refined Demon Souls and set the groundwork for everything that came after. Wasn't too long, story and lore was the most interesting and still felt like something new.
Elden Ring is DS4 in all but name. It's the exact same game but open world. Sorry, but that doesn't move the needle far enough forward imo.
Elden Ring is DS4 in all but name. It's the exact same game but open world. Sorry, but that doesn't move the needle far enough forward imo.
Danjin44
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I think biggest reason is Demons Souls is at it best when you play it for the first time and you dont know nothing but after the first playthrough in my opinion loses most its fun.
With Elden Ring not only played multiple NG+ but even after platinum the game I do entire new playthrough for new build.
Gaiff
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Then the answer should be Dark Souls.
The_hunter
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I still prefer demons souls
Danjin44
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My problem with that type of design is its only fun on first playthrough when you dont know nothing but once you know the solution of the puzzles its not all that fun in 2nd playtrhough.
CrimsonTide
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Bet no one guesses mine. No one
WoeIsMe
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1. Elden Ring
2. Dark Souls 3
3. Dark Souls
4. Dark Souls 2
Have not played Demon's Souls or Bloodborne since I haven't owned a console since PS2. Waiting for those PC-ports....any day now, any day(I know you can emulate BB, but meh, rather wait for proper release, if it ever will release that is).
2. Dark Souls 3
3. Dark Souls
4. Dark Souls 2
Have not played Demon's Souls or Bloodborne since I haven't owned a console since PS2. Waiting for those PC-ports....any day now, any day(I know you can emulate BB, but meh, rather wait for proper release, if it ever will release that is).
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The_hunter
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Yeah, that is the downside of the puzzle bosses. You get a much more interesting first encounter, but subsequent re-plays of the game suffer.
I usually only play the souls games once, fromsoft comes out with a new game almost every year.
Disciple of MSSP
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Might wanna get emulatin' brotha
Gaiff
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Not sure why outside of atmosphere maybe. Dark Souls does everything better.I still prefer demons souls
RPCS3 and ShadPS4.
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S0ULZB0URNE
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And it's DLC SOTET
CrimsonTide
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This is the correct answer
Disciple of MSSP
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My fault I added it last minute
Danjin44
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I agree except Bed of Chaos boss.....
Fuck this boss, it WORST puzzle boss I ever experienced.....and FROM knew this thats why its only boss which has checkpoint.
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