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Didn't you get the memo?
Driveclub director - 1080p/30FPS is absolutely the best for our game
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Didn't you get the memo?
blackdevil
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read the first post....jesus.....
Whaaaat? The boats and planes were fantastic. Probably my favorite kart racer to date, honestly.
I think it's clear that the engine they created for GT5 and 6 is very much ready for PS4. They implemented so many visual features that needed to be pared down or too greatly impacted the performance levels. It felt as if the engine never had a chance to stretch its legs on PS3. I think they'll actually have an easier time getting up and running this time around.
Source?
Spottiettiedop
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Looking at the diffent opinions, I wonder if the 30 vs 60 fps was the main reason for the delay.
We always prefer to aim for 30fps generally in order to keep gameplay-specific features like having more cars on track or better weather effects etc... So thats standard across all consoles"
GULP
Lol . In a racing game where all u do is go left and right ? Yeah i don't think so
If you are that sharp to complain about missing some frames in a racing game then maybe you need to stop playing video games and go race in real life.
This is not a sim game where 60fps is a must . This is an arcade racer. And the funny thing is that online. Your lag internet connection will have a bigger impact on your driving more than the fps count in the game.
I am not saying you have bad internet connection but everyone has a certain lag.
MightyHedgehog
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Turn 10 did this for Forza 1 and 2 where they polled controller input and ran physics at double the framerate, but they chose to go with 60fps with 3 and on for a reason. There's just nothing like 60fps, even with great blur.
josecitoxnyo
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Now is a good time to put some direct feed gameplay out there, gotta show off that eye candy @ 30fps.
So how about showing us some posts of Wii U owners praising those games for being 30 FPS then? I know it would actually be hard for you to back up your bullshit with actual evidence though.
solpadeine
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If you'd told me that we'd be getting 30fps driving games on next gen consoles a year ago I would not have believed you. I'd like something that feels like burnout paradise, I don't care about smudges on the windscreen ffs.
Miles Quaritch
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PGR4 wasn't really an early last gen title and was till 30fps. 30fps isn't nearly as bad as some suggest it is, especially if the motion blur is implemented well and it's 'locked' to 30fps.
And to be fair, this still is a launch title (albeit delayed), they had the 30fps figure in mind when development started and so built the engine and the game around hitting that number with no drops. A sequel might aim for 60fps, but 30fps was their original vision and I don't really have a problem with that.
FonkyByNature
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The game looks gorgeous no doubt about that ! but i'm still disappointed it's not 60fps.
I hope that doesn't become a trend this gen...
I hope that doesn't become a trend this gen...
It's struck me that it's concievably possible to have a game which runs two game logic updates for every one display update, giving you 60fps gameplay yet you only see half the frames.
I can't figure out if that'd actually be worth doing, though!
cyberheater
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Told you.
All those that questioned me in the other thread. Time for you to eat crow.
All those that questioned me in the other thread. Time for you to eat crow.
Motorstorm was most certainly not 60 fps.
I can't believe this guy set himself up to eat so much crow.
30 is Native across all consoles. Wii-U is the only confirmed resolution so far.
http://mynintendonews.com/2013/03/18/project-cars-for-wii-u-runs-at-720p-30fps-looks-feels-amazing/
It already is. At least as far as Sony's 1st party games go.
Gamepad/Wheel inputs are usually collected with very high frequency [~1000hz]. That is not problem. Problem is user seeing changes on the screen fast enough.
AusRoachman
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Driveclub - That feeling of 60 fps
F-Zero X is perhaps a good example, making clear (and I'd say noticeable!) graphical sacrifices but running 30 drivers at 60fps.
It does look comparatively poor, so it's perhaps a reasonable benchmark for the sacrifices required at that time.
Astro Monster
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PGR4 and Forza Horizon were 30fps.
Not an issue. That is all.
Not an issue. That is all.
MightyHedgehog
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Both RSC games and PGR1 were 60fps.
Ray Wonder
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I've seen in this very thread people saying they're not getting a 30fps racer.
Shin
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Yeah that's what I meant by smoother, either way it's not a deal breaker by any means (to me at least).
I'm more pumped about the game now than I was before, but each to their own I suppose.
lastflowers
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yep, this game looks beautiful. I hope it plays splendidly as well. I could use a good arcade racer next to forza.
I feel like this is a problematic (but understandable) attitude, marketing does not reward or benefit from the content being 60fps - the majority of what we consume pre-launch is 30fps streaming video or still screenshots.
So the benefits of 60fps on a purely graphical level are not even visible through conventional marketing, the gameplay benefits of 60fps will never be felt until the game is in your hands, so with the front loaded film-style market we've created it really is publisher/developers best interests to run at 30fps if they plan on a heavy pre-release marketing push.
At least Rushy gives a straight answer, I appreciate that. It's totally unsurprising, but deep down I was hoping for a minor miracle. The last 30fps racer I played was Split Second and it just felt really terrible. Racers have such fast motion that for me 60fps is almost a requirement for the genre, in them 30fps feels slower and jerkier than it usually does.
At least DriveClub looks good enough to justify its framerate, but a racing studio should always strive for 60fps instead of prettier graphics.
At least DriveClub looks good enough to justify its framerate, but a racing studio should always strive for 60fps instead of prettier graphics.
Xbox 360 is also over 8 years old console. PS4 released last November and costs 4 times more than 360 these days. There's a certain difference there.
funkystudent
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Project Cars it is then.
Thanks for the heads up Rushy!
Thanks for the heads up Rushy!
Please find my post where I said Wii U owners were praising those games for being 30fps. I said they were praising those racing games (and they just happen to be 30fps) since now you wanna act like 30fps is unplayable. Get some reading glasses noob.
Cthulhu_Steev
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Gulp!
breakfuss
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Yep. I'm not saying I'll skip it but it's now definitely become less of a priority.
Noooooooooooo. Okay. This is a left disappointment for me.
josecitoxnyo
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What a wonderful way to put it out.
Liamario
Banned
It's depressing, isn't it. I think it's a generational thing. Music is about visuals and not the music anymore as well.
Great job. That's the quote FROM LAST MARCH, when pCARS was slated for WiiU, PS3 and X360. Soon after, two old consoles were dropped and PS4 and Xbone became new console targets. Game director mentioned that they will strive to reach 1080p60.
another 30fps racer on consoles.. nice choice. (maybe)