The Amazing Spider-Man 2 |SPOILER THREAD| Enter Marc’s Webb

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I'm totally with you on most of your points, but this is silly, dude. As much as I enjoyed the film as a whole, the mood whiplash there was really bad.

I didn't feel it at all. It's not like Spider-man came out in some great terrific mood at the end. He just showed up ready to save some people and commended the kid for being brave. I didn't feel like it was rushed especially the fact that it showed a montage of him being at Gwen's grave across various seasons. It's not like she died and he went back to work a-ok the next day.
 
I didn't feel it at all. It's not like Spider-man came out in some great terrific mood at the end. He just showed up ready to save some people and commended the kid for being brave. I didn't feel like it was rushed especially the fact that it showed a montage of him being at Gwen's grave across various seasons. It's not like she died and he went back to work a-ok the next day.

While Peter's recovery is ultimately believeable, in terms of the film's tone it does feel mega-weird for the audience to go from mourning to ass-kicking in the span of five minutes.

They really would have been better off ending the film with Spider-Man in retirement. I doubt that anyone at Sony ever would have signed off on that conclusion, though. When was the last time the second film in any trilogy had a legitimately sad/defeated ending? Empire Strikes Back?
 
Also gotta love Gwen not only being in a position way over her age at Oscorp, but somehow also being an expert on electric plants.

She got in a lot of trouble for going above her pay grade and looking into Max's plan for the power plant, which is also presumably how she knew some stuff about it. There was an entire "escape from Oscorp" sequence that arose out of her snooping around.

Convenient amnesia and all that.

I didn't feel it at all. It's not like Spider-man came out in some great terrific mood at the end. He just showed up ready to save some people and commended the kid for being brave. I didn't feel like it was rushed especially the fact that it showed a montage of him being at Gwen's grave across various seasons. It's not like she died and he went back to work a-ok the next day.

Also, the Aunt May scene between the graveyard and the conclusion served as a huge emotional segue-way. Tonal transition worked for me.
 
They really would have been better off ending the film with Spider-Man in retirement. I doubt that anyone at Sony ever would have signed off on that conclusion, though. When was the last time the second film in any trilogy had a legitimately sad/defeated ending?

I thought it was a legitimately sad ending regardless. The last scene I saw involved a damaged Peter Parker trying to go back to being Spider-man. It was sad to me.
 
She got in a lot of trouble for going above her pay grade and looking into Max's plan for the power plant, which is also presumably how she knew some stuff about it. There was an entire "escape from Oscorp" sequence that arose out of her snooping around.

Is it ever made clear what her position at Oscorp even is? She could be an intern, for all I know.
 
The one part of this movie that will stick with me for a long time is the plane collision scene. A bunch of friends and I were cracking up when the movie forced us to get invested in the lives of the people in the airplane. I was half expecting a cgi Leslie Nielsen to pop up. It was just so incredibly random.

Also gotta love Gwen not only being in a position way over her age at Oscorp, but somehow also being an expert on electric plants.

Even better was how the writers thought it would be great to have Gwen and Pete provide some electric plant exposition while they're on top of a bridge.
 
She has to have been an intern- she's a fucking high schooler.

So dumb that all these high schoolers look 25+ btw.

In the first one she was apparently chief intern and assistant to Conners. Still a pretty crazy position for someone who was still in high school.
 
In the first one she was apparently chief intern and assistant to Conners. Still a pretty crazy position for someone who was still in high school.

Well, she was valedictorian at a science high school AND about to go to Cambridge or wherever. It's not too unusual for real gifted students to be in those kinds of positions.
 
Also gotta love Gwen not only being in a position way over her age at Oscorp, but somehow also being an expert on electric plants.

I love how her justification for being there was that she was the only one who knew how to reset the grid when all there was was a giant switch marked "master reset." But I'm going to miss Gwen. I like her a lot more than Mary Jane (sort of in the comics but DEFINITELY in the movies). I hope at least one symbiote character makes it into the new Sinister Six along with goblin, ock, vulture, and rhino.

Everyone was so worried over there being 3 villains but only one is really the focus. The other two are just kind of there.
 
yeah i don't get how gwen knew about the power plant. lol wut? is she chief expert of the expert division of oscorp?

two films in a row now where she's used to do something that should be far above her skill.
 
I'm assuming the black suit will show up in ASM3 as Peters way of dealing with the sinister six. Then he'll fight venom in ASM4.

After seeing this one, though, I wouldn't be surprised if they cram venom into the ending of #3.

They've already said we won't see Venom until he's introduced with an origin movie in the Venom spinoff film.
 
Harry wasn't shady toward Peter at all. And again, Harry mentioned that sampling Peter's blood could LEAD to a cure. He wasn't going to inject it straight away. It could have been a map toward a cure. Peter's just a cunt.
I came away from the movie thinking that they were both dumb for not discussing that angle and so did a lot of other people. Did they bring it up specifically because I only ever got "I'm gonna inject myself and see what happens because I'll die in 30 years" vibes from it?
 
Someone please explain me the post credit scene?

pure stupidity. mark webb and fox had a deal. sony had to give fox something in exchange for him. fox said put this trailer in one of your movies. i mean who cares if its confusing as fuck and have no connection between the two franchises.
 
While Peter's recovery is ultimately believeable, in terms of the film's tone it does feel mega-weird for the audience to go from mourning to ass-kicking in the span of five minutes.

They really would have been better off ending the film with Spider-Man in retirement. I doubt that anyone at Sony ever would have signed off on that conclusion, though. When was the last time the second film in any trilogy had a legitimately sad/defeated ending? Empire Strikes Back?

Dark knight. Batman did not win.
 
just came back, i like it, it was pretty good
lol @ rhino though

am legitimately surprised there's no hints on MJ at all
 
I'm so tired having guys in armor be resistant to bullets only to open up their fucking armor for every line they're saying.
 
The film is a giant mess alright, I concurred with a lot of reviewers on this.

A decent chunk of action here and there, but I don't recall anything memorable. I doubt I'll see this again, way too many cringe-worthy moments for me to watch. The ending, oh god, that was horribad expecially the Spider Kid. And Lol, they literally show the entire Rhino scene in the trailer already.

I guess I'll compliment them on Gwen's death, no compromise there.
 
The film was pretty good, but Spider-Kid felt too forced/cheesy. Why didn't they just have Spidey swing in, put the kid in a safe place and say "you're really brave kid!" instead of having a dialog in front of a mech with guns?
 
The film was pretty good, but Spider-Kid felt too forced/cheesy. Why didn't they just have Spidey swing in, put the kid in a safe place and say "you're really brave kid!" instead of having a dialog in front of a mech with guns?

All I could think of was how much that kid is gonna get beats for putting his mother through an insane amount if stress
 
While Peter's recovery is ultimately believeable, in terms of the film's tone it does feel mega-weird for the audience to go from mourning to ass-kicking in the span of five minutes.

They really would have been better off ending the film with Spider-Man in retirement. I doubt that anyone at Sony ever would have signed off on that conclusion, though. When was the last time the second film in any trilogy had a legitimately sad/defeated ending? Empire Strikes Back?

Not sure how you didn't get the feel of the passage of time from seeing the seasons change.
 
I AM DEE RHIIIINOOOOO.

My friends instantly cracked up the moment Giamatti appeared on screen, lol. Guess they liked the cheese and over the top vibe throughout the film.

Well, I saw it a second time, but this time with my friends, and a few of my opinions have changed. I enjoyed it more in my second viewing which I didn't expect, might have been because of my friends and brothers. Was surprised at how engaged the audience was laughing at most of the jokes and stuff, they laughed at Max Dillon in his apartment too.. which could be good or bad depending on the intent of that scene lol.

My second viewing helped me see a few things that flew past me before due to the jumpy pace of the film. It feels like a story that at first glance seems to be about Peter and Gwen, with a bunch of subplots meshed together around that. I feel like the movie didn't really have a central theme or plot, which makes it feel like a mess. It's just like, a bunch of random events happening. Like and hour and a half in I don't think it had a well defined plot. Orci/Kurtzman sure know how to fuck up a story, but I won't blame them for the over emphasis on the parents thing since Sony were the ones who wanted to expand that to two films. I don't like the licensed music in this film, and feel like they should stop doing this.

Webb has some really nicely shot scenes here, and some oddly shot ones. I think overall the movie is better than the first one now. Although, I need to watch the first one again which I don't think I feel like doing anytime soon. But I feel like after watching this the first movie retroactively got slightly better. Lol.
 
In my theater some dude yelled "OOOOOOH SHIT!" right when Gwen's head smashed the ground and everybody in the theater burst out laughing. Completely killed any sadness I may have felt for the ending.

Overall I thought it was an enjoyable yet highly flawed film. Slightly better than ASM1.
 
Why did they cut the "question of the day" scene? It would make so much more sense why Peter was hesitant to donate his blood...

I think i liked this more than ASM1, but like every non-Marvel superhero movie, there were too much executive decisions made to cramp in many careless scenes just so to catch up with the Avengers style buildup. Which is too bad since the casts and the direction were more enjoyable than Raimi version....i was actually afraid ASM2 may wander into SM3 emo territory after the first 15mins...lucky they avoided that. I also thought the CGI turned out better than expected.

And good luck to the actress playing MJ, the chemistry between PP and GS was really good, best onscreen superhero couple? They made the many non-superhero action bits watchable.
 
And good luck to the actress playing MJ, the chemistry between PP and GS was really good, best onscreen superhero couple? They made the many non-superhero action bits watchable.

It was totally Emma Stone that sold the chemistry thing. She's really good at playing that sort of girl.
 
I never realized Peter was such a huge fan of Sony products was that in the comics? Perhaps he was following his in his father's footsteps; who also loved Sony products.

The scene where he is watching his dad's video on the computer cuts to a view over Peter's shoulder. I swear that they focus on the Sony logo in this shot, I noticed it more than his dad on the screen at that particular part lol.

It was totally Emma Stone that sold the chemistry thing. She's really good at playing that sort of girl.

They both sold it.
 
Sony products are cool imo.

There are many things poorly handled in ASM2, but it is also strangely enjoyable. I think must be the Spidey action pieces which were way better than previous movies.

Webb also managed to shake off the blandness of ASM1, made the"with great powers comes great responsibility" theme without retreading into SM2 territory and avoided the too many villains SM3 pitfalls.

Of course if Marvel were to film this, with the same casts, i think ASM2 will have been easily more enjoyable.
 
I thought the movie was amazing.

haters gonna hate.
It was certainly a-meh-zing.

You know what bit I really did love, though? When Harry comes to free Electro because he legitimately needed his help, and once he tells him that Electro just kinda "lights up" (no pun intended), because someone wants him. That was nice, and I was completely with both of them for the rest of the film.
 
Sony products are cool imo.

I don't have a problem with them, they just need to realize that their movies shouldn't be gigantic ads for their latest phone or whatever. It certainly takes me out of it when nearly every electronic has a Sony logo, and the shots blatantly highlight the logo lmao.
 
I felt like this movie should be called The Amazing Exposition 2... goddamn it the exposition in this shit is TERRIBLE. Even early Disney movie have less exposition than this.

From the Max speaking in the mirror scene to the "I need your blood", it seems like no one had a legitimate reason to hate Spiderman. It is not how you form a rogue gallery. Doctor Octopus in Spiderman 2 had a good purpose. Green Goblin in the first one had a good purpose. Now not only did I never connect with any of the villains, but I felt like they were force fed into my brain.

I have no hope for this series anymore ; the VFX and the action was GREAT, and some sequences were amazingly directed (e.g. : Gwens death), but man oh man was the script TERRIBLE.
 
I felt like this movie should be called The Amazing Exposition 2... goddamn it the exposition in this shit is TERRIBLE. Even early Disney movie have less exposition than this.

From the Max speaking in the mirror scene to the "I need your blood", it seems like no one had a legitimate reason to hate Spiderman. It is not how you form a rogue gallery. Doctor Octopus in Spiderman 2 had a good purpose. Green Goblin in the first one had a good purpose. Now not only did I never connect with any of the villains, but I felt like they were force fed into my brain.

I have no hope for this series anymore ; the VFX and the action was GREAT, and some sequences were amazingly directed (e.g. : Gwens death), but man oh man was the script TERRIBLE.

I actually don't know how they fuck up the villains so much. Too much copying of the sympathetic villain storyline in previous spidey films. Every villain is a victim of circumstance in Spider-man films. No one is just fuckin evil.

Actually stand corrected. Other people at Oscorp feel evil (dude that led Harry to special projects and the scientist working on electro), but all the main villains have weak ass motivation and are more silly than intimidating. Which is even more ridiculous when they are trying to get people pumped for a villain focused movie in sinister six. You need good villains for that.
 
pure stupidity. mark webb and fox had a deal. sony had to give fox something in exchange for him. fox said put this trailer in one of your movies. i mean who cares if its confusing as fuck and have no connection between the two franchises.

That scene caught me off guard. I was thinking that we might actually get to see Wolverine call Spidey "bub" in the future.
 
I felt like this movie should be called The Amazing Exposition 2... goddamn it the exposition in this shit is TERRIBLE. Even early Disney movie have less exposition than this.

Orci/Kurtzman go to ridiculous lengths to insult your intelligence in this film.

Anyway, giffssss.

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Movie could've probably used more Spider-Man.
I wonder, had Nolan not killed off Rachel in TDK, would Sony have had the balls to let Webb kill off Gwen? Not that Rachel was nearly as likeable, funny, or attractive. Eugh Maggie Gyllenhal.

Doubt it would've made a difference. Most of the female characters in Nolan's films suck anyway. Rachel was so uninteresting in TDK.
 
You think the evil board member dude is going to be good in the next one? Like, he goes home that day and as he is scraping the shit out of his pants he goes "Maybe there is another way."
 
I didn't feel it at all. It's not like Spider-man came out in some great terrific mood at the end. He just showed up ready to save some people and commended the kid for being brave. I didn't feel like it was rushed especially the fact that it showed a montage of him being at Gwen's grave across various seasons. It's not like she died and he went back to work a-ok the next day.

Yeah. Spider-man at the end didn't have the same energy as the Spider-man we saw earlier. I thought it was a good moment.

You think the evil board member dude is going to be good in the next one? Like, he goes home that day and as he is scraping the shit out of his pants he goes "Maybe there is another way."

Would not be surprised to learn he was killed off screen in the deleted scene where Goblin attacks Oscorp. Same happened to Irrfan Khan's character in the first movie.
 
Not sure how you didn't get the feel of the passage of time from seeing the seasons change.

"in terms of the film's tone it does feel mega-weird for the audience to go from mourning to ass-kicking in the span of five minutes. "

Not sure how I could have phrased in more clearly.

For the audience, it feels weird to have the tone of the film shift so quickly from sadness and mourning to "OMG badass Spider-Man asskicking". Nobody is denying that time passed in the story, but it makes the pacing of the film's end very strange and abrupt. A tragedy usually represents a climax to a film, from which there is some falling action and a brief conclusion. ASM2 just launches into another action sequence.
 
Just came back from this. I'm actually quite surprised at how the movie turned out, it was actually good during the Spider-Man scene and not so bad during the Peter ones.

Also WTF at the X-men trailer/sneak peak at the end ?
 
Wasn't finding Uncle Ben's killer the entire reason Peter even became Spider-Man in this series? One of the weirdest things was dropping that completely.
 
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