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Yeah. At least they didn't kill him off. They just kinda shelved him.
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Yeah. At least they didn't kill him off. They just kinda shelved him.
Duane Cunningham
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Yeah, I'm kind of mixed too, but people definitely dig SLJ Fury. And they could've made the switch in far stupider ways for sure. Plus, they can always still use old Nick sometimes, here and there.
I guess Maria is back in charge because Sr is out and Jr is too new to take over yet.
For those unfamiliar, she was introduced during Civil War, and wasn't really Nick's protege like she is in MCU. In the comics, there was another crossover right before Civil War where Nick gets forced out of SHIELD and is kind of working on the fringe. When Civil War opens, Hill is a brand new character... the new director, appointed by the Pentagon. And she's a completely cold, no-bullshit hard ass, way more so than her MCU counterpart.
This shit would get me beheaded in the GoT threads
Lone_Prodigy
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I remember watching the animated Spiderman series on TV and Fury was white.
GuitarAtomik
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Eh, I think they should do it more often. With Nick Fury it kind of makes sense more than most since he was supposed to have fought in WW2 with the Howling Commandos and they've had to come up with weird ways to explain why him and the others aren't super old men. Things get so weird when character backstories are tied to real wars that can't be date fudged lol.
Pai Pai Master
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MCU Maria seems to be a mix of Mara Hill and Daisy Johnson, who in the comics is Fury's protégé and was introduced in Secret Warriors. I'm still catching up on the previous run of Secret Avengers, but after Hydra infiltrated SHIELD in Secret Warriors and it was pretty much done for like it is now in the MCU, they rebuilt it from the ground up and Daisy became Director of SHIELD.
Daisy was relieved of duty when she sent Fury Jr., Natasha and Clint to assassinate AIM's Scientist Supreme and Hill took her place again, but I'm still halfway through the run so I dunno what the situation is currently. The newest Secret Avengers team has Hill on it I think?
I dunno, they've always used the Infinity Formula to explain why Fury Sr.'s lived so long. It wasn't like Magneto where they don't really have an explanation right now for how he was alive during the Holocaust and isn't old as shit now.
Jorok Goldblade
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Nick Fury had a son. He was a soldier named Marcus Johnson. He goes home to investigate his mother's murder, and gets captured by Nick Fury's enemies. He has his eye cut out, and learns that his real name is Nick Fury Jr, and that he has Infinity Formula in his blood.
He goes on to become an Agent of SHIELD, inheriting Captain America's director of SHIELD uniform (The Winter Soldier movie costume without the mask) and also learns that his army buddy, "Cheese," is agent Phil Coulsen.
Maria Hill is director of SHIELD in the comics, and the original Fury retires and is taking on personal missions after giving his last dose of Infiinty Formula to Bucky.
So since the season was ending, I decided I would give the series one last try and started catching up from ep14 the other day. Got up to ep18 so far. It's still a pretty bad show. Really cheap looking. Bad direction. Too many close-ups on bad actors. Cast with no charisma or chemistry. Really too bad.
But you know what? Bill Paxton fucking rocks. Every single scene he's in, it's almost like a good show. Really shows the huge gulf in talent and effort between him and everyone else on the show. Bad Ward is pretty good too, when he's just relaxed and laid back, talking about how everyone on Coulson's team were a bunch of losers who fell for his shit. Too bad that isn't going to last.
Gonna keep watching to the end just for the Maria Hill and Fury cameos. Probably not going to watch season 2. Hopefully Agent Carter is better. Lulz.
Edit: Oh, and it must fucking suck being a SHIELD security officer of any sort in Marvel TV. Two guys who follow protocol and refuse Coulson access get their base hacked into anyway and murdered in cold blood. Two guys who break protocol to allow Ward and Garret in when they're under attack get betrayed and murdered in cold blood. Sucks to be them!
But you know what? Bill Paxton fucking rocks. Every single scene he's in, it's almost like a good show. Really shows the huge gulf in talent and effort between him and everyone else on the show. Bad Ward is pretty good too, when he's just relaxed and laid back, talking about how everyone on Coulson's team were a bunch of losers who fell for his shit. Too bad that isn't going to last.
Gonna keep watching to the end just for the Maria Hill and Fury cameos. Probably not going to watch season 2. Hopefully Agent Carter is better. Lulz.
Edit: Oh, and it must fucking suck being a SHIELD security officer of any sort in Marvel TV. Two guys who follow protocol and refuse Coulson access get their base hacked into anyway and murdered in cold blood. Two guys who break protocol to allow Ward and Garret in when they're under attack get betrayed and murdered in cold blood. Sucks to be them!
Pai Pai Master
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Sorry haha, we may be talking about SHIELD character's but we're getting wayyyy off topic.
GuitarAtomik
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Yeah, that's what I mean. They had to come up with a magical age slowing serum to explain it. The excuse works fine, especially for comics, but I just feel like it would be cooler if they let some characters age out instead of having to come up with weird explanations for why they're not older. I thought I read Magneto had his consciousness put in a younger clone body or something and that's how they explain him. I might be remembering that wrong though lol.
Duane Cunningham
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Magneto was de-aged to a baby at one point, then re-aged to a young man. I don't know if that's still the explanation or not.
Jorok Goldblade
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Magneto was turned into a baby by Alpha, The Ultimate Mutant and then later turned back into an adult by Eric the Red. Its generally assumed that he was aged back to a young adult rather than to his original age.
During his time as a baby, Moira MacTaggert messed around with his DNA to stop his powers from causing feedback that messed with his brain. This was used to explain why he was a ranting cartoon villain during Lee's run and a more focused antagonist living in the grey area of political reality when Claremont took over.
Back to Fury, most cartoons were attributing his WWII adventures to his father, Jack Fury, anyway. The "Fury Jr." fix isn't too much of a stretch from that.
Pai Pai Master
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Haha whoah, didn't know that about Magneto. That's pretty off-the-wall compared to something like the Infinity Formula or Fury Jr.'s introduction.
But hey, comic books. I can typically suspend my disbelief for stuff like that. One More Day/Brand New Day is probably the one thing that I couldn't jive with.
But hey, comic books. I can typically suspend my disbelief for stuff like that. One More Day/Brand New Day is probably the one thing that I couldn't jive with.
BlackNMild2k1
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evolution..... through the mist... what will I become
I feel like they are heavy hinting towards something big....
Definitely feels like
The High Evolutionary and Inhuman stuff mashed together.
Yeah
Last episode Raina mentioned that she, like Skye, has some latent potential in her DNA waiting to come out. Marvel seems to be trying to go full speed ahead to bypass X-Men after a fashion.
R_thanatos
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WTf the ending of this video..if they wanted to get me hyped , they managed to !
Absolutely agree 110%, the whole Marvel Universe has been so much better for it.
Father_Brain
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I would really rather not see Inhumans introduced as a concept before Black Bolt, Medusa, Maximus, etc., so I hope that's not the direction they're going. I think it's less likely given that it's confirmed that AoU isn't taking that approach to Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch's origins.
Funky Papa
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I have to agree.
I love Disney's work with the MCU and I believe they deserve all the praise they get, but the X-Men franchise is HUGE and it's very easy to envision a scenario in which all of Marvel's properties collide into one colossal clusterfuck that would end doing more harm than good.
If Disney wants superpowers, they can easily adapt the Inhumans and bring some Marvel Cosmic weirdness for funsies, not to mention Blade and Doctor Strange, which should be balls out wild. Actually, I think it makes perfect sense for Disney to use the Inhumans as their own mutants.
That said, Fantastic Four should abso-fucking-lutely revert to Marvel ASAP, probably even Spidey. FF are going to be utterly wasted elsewhere (not to mention what could mean for Marvel Cosmic) and I think Peter Parker deserves better.
The Kree are crazy easy to tie with AoS and the MCU now that GotG is upon us. Shit, we already saw the remains of a mysterious giant, blue humanoid...
Peter Parker would be so hugely overshadowed by every other superhero and it would be weird people like Reed or Stark don't help stop people Elektro despite living in the same city. Spider-Man works best in an isolated universe. He has powers, but he isn't that strong.
Alcoremortis
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I always figured it worked because Reed Richards and Tony Stark are both enormous assholes who don't care about anything less than global annihilation.
I'd think they'd care about this guy messing up their buildings. And the Human Torch wouldn't pass up an opportunity to kick ass and get in the spotlights.
You can have the mists be like the version of "unlocking miracles" that goes all the way up to 11.
Man those old Marvel Team-Up books were great. The Spider-Man + Human Torch issues were the best. I used to love digging through the backlog at the comic store and reading those books.
a secret-boss
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i wonder if the Xmen contract includes tv
Spidey is definitely A-tier. He can pretty much solo any of the X-Men.
Most of the time he's holding back.
Pai Pai Master
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Man that was one of my favourite Spidey moments when I was a kid. I never liked the X-Men growing up haha.
The Hermit
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yeah
That feeling of finally realizing this show is becoming an "origins" for many characters...feels good.
sol_bad
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It's not like he wrecked someone he clearly isn't able to. He distracted Colossus, ran away from Storm. He is a lot faster then Nightcrawler too so it's not a stretch that he could catch him off guard (since he seem so confident that he was as fast as him). He could totally swat Wolverine away like that. Spider-man could tear him apart if he really wanted too.
HP_Wuvcraft
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I just hope they don't get too goofy too fast.
crimsonheadGCN
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Agents Facebook page just uploaded the season 2 poster:
https://www.facebook.com/AgentsofSh...98282.421182894613231/691194530945398/?type=1
I am worried about
surviving now. 
And first part of Season 2 will be called "Rises..."
https://www.facebook.com/AgentsofSh...98282.421182894613231/691194530945398/?type=1
I am worried about
Trip
And first part of Season 2 will be called "Rises..."
Much rather him than Ward.Agents Facebook page just uploaded the season 2 poster:
https://www.facebook.com/AgentsofSh...98282.421182894613231/691194530945398/?type=1
I am worried aboutsurviving now.Trip
And first part of Season 2 will be called "Rises..."
Agents Facebook page just uploaded the season 2 poster:
https://www.facebook.com/AgentsofSh...98282.421182894613231/691194530945398/?type=1
I am worried aboutsurviving now.Trip
And first part of Season 2 will be called "Rises..."
And, fuck...an inclusion in that poster that is a bit of a spoiler for the finale....don't like it...don't like it one bit...
was really hoping Ward would die....now they're going to go the full redemption route...
HP_Wuvcraft
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Agents Facebook page just uploaded the season 2 poster:
https://www.facebook.com/AgentsofSh...98282.421182894613231/691194530945398/?type=1
I am worried aboutsurviving now.Trip
And first part of Season 2 will be called "Rises..."
That's just a hype poster.
EDIT: Ward can still die.
See, I never got that from any of the animated shows or the movies. I'd think many non-comic book fans would feel the same.
Hours Left
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That's not the real S2 poster. It's just a quick one thrown together to hype the renewal.
Everything can still happen.
Everything can still happen.
pieatorium
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He stops a train in one of the movies, holds up cars and shit not just his web but he is holding the web and car under his own strenght. As presented in the movies hes way stronger physically than what cap has been portrayed as in his movies and cap could beat down a good number of the xmen the way they have been shown. Magneto, Charles and Jean the big exceptions
Cap managed to take a hit of Thor's hammer with his shield.
Your argument is that others heroes don't help out? Have you even watched Cap2 yet?
No avenger to be seen helping out in the biggest crisis. Same in Iron Man 3.
Spidey is one of the big guys, not god buster Tier like Thor, but there are few heroes on earth that can match him anyway.
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