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I have faith in Shinobi, and if he says what he's seen of this game is simply fantastic, I believe him. It's clear they're being very coy with what they're showing. Drip feeding us media so to speak.
Sony teasing The Order sneak peak at 1pm PT today.
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Remember this?
I have faith in Shinobi, and if he says what he's seen of this game is simply fantastic, I believe him. It's clear they're being very coy with what they're showing. Drip feeding us media so to speak.
Kssio_Aug
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Aside from the different clothes, the lighting is also different.
Yeah, thats not downgraded. At least, I cant find anything that looks downgraded there. They just changed a bit of the concept, and its looking amazing! Also, I like the new version more, it looks a lot more atmospherical and tense!
Cant wait to play this!!
The way Sony and RAD are handling this game is quite poor. The talk a big game about cinematics but they seems to forget that the gameplay is equally as important. Give us interesting scenarios instead of generic scene reminiscent of UC2.
And Im not sure I like the idea of magic coke that heals everything, I mean the status of the knights are passed on from generation to generation but what's the point if you have magic coke to live forever. What the original knights forgot to take it one day?
I'm totally on the same page. So far nothing about the gameplay is grabbing me but what you described would definitely do it.
And Im not sure I like the idea of magic coke that heals everything, I mean the status of the knights are passed on from generation to generation but what's the point if you have magic coke to live forever. What the original knights forgot to take it one day?
Still hoping for something as open and alive as this to be in the actual game.
If the E3 demo opens with a scene like this and then proceeds to have the werewolf monsters crash in, climbing on the sides of buildings etc. I think much would be forgiven...
I'm totally on the same page. So far nothing about the gameplay is grabbing me but what you described would definitely do it.
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Deleted member 80556
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I wish videogames had a Director of Photography like Deakins or Young.
Lion Heart
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Dude, no. Xbone threads are always full of dumbass "joke" comments about kinect or resolution or whatever. You kinda get used to it after a while.
I will prove you guys wrong when I get back from X-men. In the meantime, here is every Xbox thread I found in 5 pages, pretty much no petty BS in any, and some Nintendo games threads while I'm at it.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=822847
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=824173
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=820015&page=62
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=817936
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=824056
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=806916
Negativity is below like 5%
Looks like a bore and Gameplay looks generic. When it was first reveal and saw images of the characters on the roofs, was hoping they would be able to have gadgets to get on the roofs and do other things like that. Instead were stuck with a Gears of Wars clone. Also dat gray color filter, no colors allowed I guess.
This basically, I have a large TV myself, I'm really liking what I see so far though, and seeing how a new gears or uncharted is not coming out anytime soon, and it takes place in an era I hardly ever play in (I know I know, alternate Victoria london) since there is no Mp I hope this game is at least 15 hours long. I usually put in more time than actual time (put 10 hours into the first zone of second son alone)
But back to the quote above, I think the anger TV owners will have no problem with these vars being present
OccamsLightsaber
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So, third person shooters are now bad?
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Perfect...along with improved motion blur/explosions/shadows/lighting. I would say this is a very worthy improvement to the visuals! Now about that direct feed Pessino....
there u go
Gun Animal
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Gameplay looks like generic TPS whatever, story and art direction do nothing for me. I'm still going to buy it on day one because it looks """realistic""" and I am part of the problem.
Ol No Bones
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This sounds great. I hope you are right.Still hoping for something as open and alive as this to be in the actual game.
If the E3 demo opens with a scene like this and then proceeds to have the werewolf monsters crash in, climbing on the sides of buildings etc. I think much would be forgiven...
sjagolinzer
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Remember this?
I have faith in Shinobi, and if he says what he's seen of this game is simply fantastic, I believe him. It's clear they're being very coy with what they're showing. Drip feeding us media so to speak.
Yeah. I'm hoping tuesday brings new footage and I really want a HQ direct-feed! I still have faith that this game will be good.
digoutyoursoul
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Don't bother, I use this place regularly like yourself and others and read hundreds of threads. I don't agree with what you said from my own experience, just my opinion.
Enjoy X men
NullPointer
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And at this point I wish I was looking at a Gears clone - because Gears has one of the finest combat systems I've ever seen in a shooter, especially the first Gears, which was more about smart use of cover, flanking, and aggressive assaults.
I'd love to see an open area in the Order or some place where the systems get to shine on their own, not just riding on how amazing everything can look. That's how I can buy into it.
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Same. Deakins .why oh why aren't you working on the new Bond!
I pretty much only wanted Mendes back for Deakins
The character in the art looks nearly identical to the in-game model.Still hoping for something as open and alive as this to be in the actual game.
If the E3 demo opens with a scene like this and then proceeds to have the werewolf monsters crash in, climbing on the sides of buildings etc. I think much would be forgiven...
WaffleTaco
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Looks great, can't wait to play. Very excited to see when they will show the player using energy weapons. If any sequels come of this, I hope they add in multiplayer and Co-Op.
IIRC three weeks.
then watch the movie.
But you're right they're not mutually exclusive. But... increasing narrative driven games are a detriment to game design. You start rewarding players to play through the shlog of gameplay for a b-action cinematic. You rely on "visceral" set-pieces instead of rewarding enemy encounters, or creative and challenging game design puzzles. You get dumber games that rely on frustration as a difficulty tactic instead of skill or cognitive thought. Games become more linear or arena based with droves of identical enemies while you move up from one cover to the next so you can get to that next QTE or cutscene, destroying any sense of world building exploration. You create less engaging content and you stop rewarding players for playing the game. You reduce the immersive qualities as you force bifurcated sections of games where at times you control the character, at times you watch the character, reducing the overall immersive aspect of the gaming medium.
And if you think i'm wrong on the game design point... then lets talk about what cinematic experiences do for stories, you force more rigid stereotypes in characters, give players less control on the type of characters they want to be or represent who they are, you get more white male 30 year old protagonists. You spend more money on producing assets, writing stories and hiring actors, all budget that could be spent on making the game and audio better as opposed to the b-movie aspect of the game better.
I appreciate thinking and criticizing the gaming medium. It has a lot of potential, but that potential is being extinguished by the flood of urine as we support cinematic, visceral, bad games.
Tricky I Shadow
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Wow, looks and sounds amazing!
I'm officially on board for this one.
I'm officially on board for this one.
3 weeks.
Kssio_Aug
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A TPS game cant be a TPS without being called a Gears of War clone or generic?
I agree that this game seems to reach the same public as Gears did on Xbox (single player wise), that is a TPS fanbase: not a mix with adventure as Uncharted is, just pure third person shooter really.
But that definitely looks pretty different too! And Gears always focused on a multiplayer, and thats completely the opposite with The Order.
Also, its gameplay may not be innovative, but the game overall doesnt seems anyhow generic to me. The atmosphere for itself feels so unique!
Vire
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Concept artists often take real photographs or in game assets and paint over them. Saves a lot of time.
Still hoping for something as open and alive as this to be in the actual game.
If the E3 demo opens with a scene like this and then proceeds to have the werewolf monsters crash in, climbing on the sides of buildings etc. I think much would be forgiven...
I posted this exact image and a similar post in a previous thread. Shinobi, who as some may know has seen a lot more of this game than even most journalists, said we would. Can't wait to see what that particular area looks like in game.
On a side note, there's several major proponents of this game that have yet to be properly revealed.
- The hybrid creatures
- Physics based gameplay and puzzles
- Implementation of gameplay affecting soft body physics and destruction
- Other alternative and interesting weapons
- The more open ended environments and city area's
Also, if you want to compare this game to a third person shooter, Gears is the less reasonable one to choose. The devs themselves have said the inspiration is Naughty Dog's games (UC, LoU), so those are the games we should be comparing this to if any.
Kssio_Aug
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Dust-by-Monday
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I hope there's no screen tearing in the final version.
Kenshin001
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Maybe they should show some of that stuff. Whoever is choosing what to show is doing a great job of turning people off the game. Their PR has been atrocious.
I honestly don't think I'm exaggerating when I say that it gives the aesthetic semblance of playing a CGI movie.
Handy Fake
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It's certainly gorgeous. And the framerate and tearing is without doubt streaming issues judging by that as well, even if that was confirmed by the dev.
Much hype over here. I think it's going to be a game where snippets don't do it justice. If you read three random pages somewhere in the middle of To Kill A Mockingbird, you'd probably think it was boring and you'd seen it all before. Looks like this one is going to be all about storytelling and emotional investment.
LegendofDragoonLives
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People were making lists of what seperates the other 3rd person action adventure games and that this would need something other than just its graphics. If it works out, I could see interesting guns, destructible environments & interesting use of humans and hybrids (monsters?) as enemies at once. Hopefully the gameplay is more fluid and less clunky looking during the E3 trailer.
As someone else put it, I'm going to remain cautiously optimistic about the game.
Citizen_Insane
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You're not alone. I cannot believe that is gameplay.
Dat seamless transition from the cutscene.
farmerboy
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You ok mate?
You will not lose image quality, the image quality between the black bars will be whatever the developer wants. So you lost picture size but not image quality.
Image retention, burn in is a non issue with black bars, if the bars were pure white different story.
How a developer wants to frame the action is their choice, its not offensive, its not forcing you to play and if the bonus is that they eke out a bit more performance then so be it. However, your attitude is offensive to me as a consumer of videogames.
You sound like someone who just wants to rag on the game, move on mate, we don't need you here.
Anos Voldigoad
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I'm HYPED for their E3 full gameplay preview! Are you?
I have a good feeling that all the salty people will eat crow when they show the
creatures
The quality of the lighting and the good motion blur really helps to give this feeling I think. I just wished Sony would release a direct feed video instead of that shitty streamed version.
crazepharmacist
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The Youtube quality is pretty bad. Is the video available anywhere else?
Second terrible post of yours I'm responding too, but at least do some research before you rag on something.
1. You won't be losing any image quality. Quite the contrary. You'll be losing screen real estate, but the image is still 1:1 pixel mapped, and add to that you gain 4xMSAA which if anything will improve the image quality.
2. Black bars won't cause any image retention or screen burn. Pure black on plasma's is where the phosphors are actually turned off, and as a result, it cannot cause screen burn. Only other varying pixels on over a prolonged or extended period within them, or within the space between the black bars, can cause any such negative.
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Kenshin001
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Once again, you keep telling people what they should or should not like. Cinematic games like Uncharted 2 and TLoU I've enjoyed immensely, the story and gameplay. No one is forcing you to play these games, no one is holding a gun to developers' heads to make these games. I'm an older white male, I like playing as that character, it's something I can relate to.
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