Raise the flame shield: Your "controversial" gaming opinion.

OttoSporteman said:
Have quite a few, actually:

Gears of War is an average shooter, a 6/10 score at most.
Red Dead Redemption is boring.
Halo sucks.
GTA is not fun, feels like repetitive work. Sleeping Dogs is better.
Battlefield is better than COD.
Assassin's Creed might be the worst game ever hyped to be good.
Far Cry 3 is still fun and doesn't get tiresome.
Forza and Gran Turismo are boring games.
Even with less power, the Xbox One experience is better than the PS4 experience. PS4 UI is still infant and not good by any means.
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Is there anything you do like?
 
GetemMa said:
Most PC gamers aren't truthy about the caveats of PC gaming because they operate in a bubble.

I am primarily a PC gamer. It is expensive to get the true benefits. My GPU alone cost more than any console on the market and I will probably buy another one when 4K TVs are mainstream.

The constant driver updates and tweaking is worth it but making no mistake, it's constant.

Unless you want to wait several months to play new games, Steam Sales aren't going to save you a lot of money in PC gaming. If you want to play games when they come out, you are saving 10 bucks at most and usually nothing at all, while sacrificing any resale value.
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While I can agree on your first point, the rest is silly.

1) 4k TVs won't be mainstream for another 5+ years. So...pretty much when another set of new consoles come out. So, both your console and your GPU will last the same amount of time, but you will get more bang and performance out of your GPU for the money you paid. I don't see a problem with this.

2) Consoles and their games update constantly as well. This really even shouldn't be a point either way now.

3) One can routinely grab brand new PC titles at launch for $20-30 off the MSRP. Waiting several months results in discounts for both console and PC games, but the savings are much more drastic and quicker for PC.

Besides, patience is a virtue. =)
 
neurosisxeno said:
3. Graphics matter. A lot. Go back and try and play a PS-era game and tell me how enjoyable it is. If the game looks like crap it's not as fun as the same game that looks 10x better. Yes, you can't use amazing graphics to mask horrific gameplay, but if everything is a bunch of indistinguishable smudges the best gameplay there is won't save it. More than graphics Aesthetics matter above all else.
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I just finished playing a couple classic games: Legend of Zelda II, Legend of Zelda, and Crash Bandicoot. The graphics didn't bother me in any of them. In Crash Bandicoot the thing that bothered me the most were the controls and physics, something that has improved over time.
 
I don't particularly like involved plots/storylines in games - I feel like that, along with fancy cinematics belong in films/movies/television, not really in games

some plot is ok, but I guess I just prefer more action B-)
 
neurosisxeno said:
3. Graphics matter. A lot. Go back and try and play a PS-era game and tell me how enjoyable it is. If the game looks like crap it's not as fun as the same game that looks 10x better. Yes, you can't use amazing graphics to mask horrific gameplay, but if everything is a bunch of indistinguishable smudges the best gameplay there is won't save it. More than graphics Aesthetics matter above all else.
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I agree that graphics matter, but this myth that PS1-era games are the most hideous thing ever needs to be put to rest. Just like NES/Genesis/SNES, PS1 and N64 games are meant to be played on CRTs and the result is quite nice. HDTVs, especially LCD, make the games look much worse than they did when we originally played them due to the terrible job in upscaling and forcing the game onto wildly different screen tech it wasn't meant for show. PC emulators also tend to do a poor job of fixing the problem. Rendered in HD resolutions with AA, old games can and do look unusually worse: oddly sterile and barren with once quaint, simple textures appearing garishly in-focus in a way never intended. Again, these games were carefully engineered to look good on our CRTs. On newer TVs, everything just looks completely off and has led to a generation of gamers having their memories rewritten, wondering after the fact how we ever played those games without our eyes bleeding. It's like reverse nostalgia.

I'm hoping some amazing screen tech of the future can allow us to revisit old media without it looking like ass and displaying as perfectly as it once did. VR may create some possibilities down the line (like the virtual theater: a virtual room with a CRT).
 
neurosisxeno said:
I'll take a stab at this:

1. Nintendo has no clue what the hell they are doing, and as a result they are tripping over themselves. People seem to think of Nintendo as this constantly innovative and calculated company but over the past 4-5 years they seem like a confused pop star who can't figure why their 1 hit wonder was such a huge success. The Wii U is crap, period, and Nintendo has done nothing to help themselves compete with Sony and Microsoft. Which reminds me, stop pretending Nintendo is in a completely different business as Sony and Microsoft, they aren't. All 3 make video game consoles, the only slight difference is Sony and Microsoft have persued the idea of "media centers" more than Nintendo who wants you to use a tabletroller that sucks as both a Tablet and Controller.

2. EA isn't that bad. Yea, they can be annoying and make questionable design choices based on focus groups, but for the most part they still make a decent number of great games. Battlefield 3 was great, Titanfall from what I hear was great, SWTOR was great, and they still put out Mass Effect and continue to put out iterations of Madden and FIFA that people love.

3. Graphics matter. A lot. Go back and try and play a PS-era game and tell me how enjoyable it is. If the game looks like crap it's not as fun as the same game that looks 10x better. Yes, you can't use amazing graphics to mask horrific gameplay, but if everything is a bunch of indistinguishable smudges the best gameplay there is won't save it. More than graphics Aesthetics matter above all else.

4. World of Warcraft is the best MMORPG on the market, and it still looks damn good with the settings cranked up. The game has managed to get so much content under its belt that even if you bought the game today you could spend the rest of the year playing almost nonstop and still have several years worth of content ahead of you. And the game is pleasent to look at. Yea, it doesn't look like Crysis, but it has phenomenal style and aesthetics. Everything is crystal clear and looks unique and defined. The game has insane amounts of polish, and insane amounts of content, and that makes it the best MMORPG on the market.
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I agree with pretty much everything you said.

I don't know jack shit about mmo games.
 
Despite Dead Space 3's faults, the
Brethren Moons
were a fantastic idea and
were a perfect backstory for the Necromorphs
.
 
I still have a 27" CRT Sony Wega 480i. N64 and PS1 look like crap still. It ain't the TV bro even if modern TVs don't help.
 
Toxi said:
Despite Dead Space 3's faults, the
Brethren Moons
were a fantastic idea and
were a perfect backstory for the Necromorphs
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Totally agree on this. I actually really liked it. If ME3 was half as good of an ending, I'd be okay with it.

I'm actually bummed Dead Space is now a dead franchise.
 
Dice said:
Teach me how the hell you got ground controls to not suck.
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I don't know if I can teach you how to get them not to suck but I'll tell you how I did it.

1. I made sure that the 3ds was either propped up against my leg when i'm sitting down. Or if you are laying down set the 3ds on my stomach. Just the make sure the 3ds is supported in some way. I'm guessing here but comfort goes a long way when trying to learn something new.

2. Play the game. No, I'm not saying this as a troll answer, I'm saying it because I just sat down for while and tried my damnedest to beat the game. At first i thought the game was unplayable(even bought a circle pad pro for my XL, didn't pan out though). but around 3 hour mark I had adapted to how the controls work. It just became automatic for me. I can't really put it into context on how I overcame the drawback of the control scheme, but it was more or less trial and error

So to sum it up, make sure you are comfortable when you are playing Kid Icarus Uprising. Because the last thing you want to have bother you when you are playing is that pain in the wrist trying to hold the 3ds, and without that pain you can focus on how the camera reacts to the motions of the stylus.
 
I regret buying a WiiU at launch, it's the worst console i have ever had, it's underpowered, it has a poor OS & is not what was promised, i still have MK 8 & Bayonetta 2 on order, but that's it for me & it's only eighteen months old.

I regrettably fell for the hype, i won't be making the same mistake again though Mr Iwata.

Ok it has some fairly good games now, but they don't really do anything different, if i had waited a year or even two i could've got all the games & a WiiU for the original price i paid for the WiiU at launch.
 
Nemmy said:
Dark Souls is a good game that is nonetheless tremendously overrated, and owes most of its success and acclaim to the fact that it came out during a generation defined by games with no mechanics and no challenge.
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The sad part is that I agree with that post (not quite entirely, but I agree enough to +1 it).
 
Mauricio_Magus said:
There's amazing turn based games, calling it crap without considering how strategic and interesting a well done turn based game can be just makes me think that you've never played a good turned based game.
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I'm not saying the games are bad, just the combat and it's just my opinion! I've played Chrono Trigger, Final Fantasy (the older games), Persona and others...hardly bad games.
 
I want every video game company and system to do well.

I'm fine with DLC and will buy them if it looks like I will enjoy them. Someone needs to pay for those folks running the servers long after game release.
 
neurosisxeno said:
I'll take a stab at this:

3. Graphics matter. A lot. Go back and try and play a PS-era game and tell me how enjoyable it is. If the game looks like crap it's not as fun as the same game that looks 10x better. Yes, you can't use amazing graphics to mask horrific gameplay, but if everything is a bunch of indistinguishable smudges the best gameplay there is won't save it. More than graphics Aesthetics matter above all else.
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... At the time those games looked amazing. They look like crap on laptops with capable of pushing 4K resolutions of course. However, at the time THEY WERE AMAZING to me. Final Fantasy 8 looked great on my 13 inch TV with rabbit ears. During that time information wasn't as readily available to all gamers. Novice gamers couldn't look up resolutions and technical terms to compare performance across platforms. Back to celebrating the greatness that was the PSOne and PS2 era.


I thought PS2 was next gen during that run. That MGS2 demo is a good highlight of that time.
 
Dark Souls 2 is as good as Dark Souls and Demon's Souls. I love Demon's Souls, but it is kind of overrated by the fandom, tbh.
 
I've tried to play Rayman Origins several times and I just don't find it enjoyable. The visuals and presentation are great (I love the music), but I find the level design very frustrating and too precise and irritating. I got it free from PS+ on my Vita and I've tried it several times, but I just cannot get into it.
 
I think that some people in GAF or other places in the internet that share apathy and resentment towards PS4/XB1 are condescending. Especially to some elitist PC gamers who think PS4/XB1 is garbage just because the latter's hardware is wimpy compared to mid-end or high-end PC's hardware.

Unlike some gaffers, I firmly believe that AAA gaming industry still has it's place despite it's big share of problems and doesn't need to die.
 
Karl Hawk said:
I think that some people in GAF or other places in the internet that share apathy and resentment towards PS4/XB1 are condescending. Especially to some elitist PC gamers who think PS4/XB1 is garbage just because the latter's hardware is wimpy compared to mid-end or high-end PC's hardware.

Unlike some gaffers, I firmly believe that AAA gaming industry still has it's place despite it's big share of problems and doesn't need to die.
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The PS4 and Xbone aren't great consoles because they lack good games, not because of horsepower shenanigans. It is very simple. "Some people in GAF" aren't condescending, they are completely right on being negative/disappointed towards the next gen consoles.
 
I adore the look of the fixed camera pre-rendered backgrounds games like Resident Evil 1-3 and Final fantasy VII had especially when they used weird camera angles. I would love to see that attempted at 1080p. All the gameplay sacrifices that would require compared to modern games would be worth it to me and I'm usually someone who values gameplay above all else.
 
neurosisxeno said:
4. World of Warcraft is the best MMORPG on the market, and it still looks damn good with the settings cranked up. The game has managed to get so much content under its belt that even if you bought the game today you could spend the rest of the year playing almost nonstop and still have several years worth of content ahead of you. And the game is pleasent to look at. Yea, it doesn't look like Crysis, but it has phenomenal style and aesthetics. Everything is crystal clear and looks unique and defined. The game has insane amounts of polish, and insane amounts of content, and that makes it the best MMORPG on the market.
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I completely agree. To me, it's essentially anothher Wind Waker in the sense that it will never look terrible. Game play wise, other MMOs can't compare, simply because they don't have the same amount of content.
 
gelf said:
I adore the look of the fixed camera pre-rendered backgrounds games like Resident Evil 1-3 and Final fantasy VII had especially when they used weird camera angles. I would love to see that attempted at 1080p. All the gameplay sacrifices that would require compared to modern games would be worth it to me and I'm usually someone who values gameplay above all else.
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I agree actually. I'd love to see some more games attempt the fixed camera/pre-rendered background combo. It's great for creating atmosphere and tension.
 
neurosisxeno said:
I'll take a stab at this:

1. Nintendo has no clue what the hell they are doing, and as a result they are tripping over themselves. People seem to think of Nintendo as this constantly innovative and calculated company but over the past 4-5 years they seem like a confused pop star who can't figure why their 1 hit wonder was such a huge success. The Wii U is crap, period, and Nintendo has done nothing to help themselves compete with Sony and Microsoft. Which reminds me, stop pretending Nintendo is in a completely different business as Sony and Microsoft, they aren't. All 3 make video game consoles, the only slight difference is Sony and Microsoft have persued the idea of "media centers" more than Nintendo who wants you to use a tabletroller that sucks as both a Tablet and Controller.
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Is this even a controversial opinion? Seems like there are multiple threads daily about how Nintendo is doomed.
 
Most AAA games are a complete waste of time and money. I've been more impressed by indie and mid-tier games in the last 3 years than almost all AAA games.

Saying that, the Arkham series is an incredible bunch of games and IMO an exception to the rule.
 
Nemmy said:
Dark Souls is a good game that is nonetheless tremendously overrated, and owes most of its success and acclaim to the fact that it came out during a generation defined by games with no mechanics and no challenge.
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Exactly what I think as well.
 
Gipsy Danger said:
Most AAA games are a complete waste of time and money. I've been more impressed by indie and mid-tier games in the last 3 years than almost all AAA games.

Saying that, the Arkham series is an incredible bunch of games and IMO an exception to the rule.
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I think most can agree that AAA games aren't made for us, the enthusiast gamer, the only AAA game I remember from 2013 till today that wasn't a boring mess is TLOU(and even then, I didn't love it as much as others did), unless you could Nintendo games and Metal Gear Rising, which I love.

I would quit gaming if we stopped getting great Indie and Japanese games.
 
I hate Mario Galaxy. I tried, but I can't get into it. And yes, I like 3D Marios, but the whole idea of jumping between smaller islands instead of running through a single long area really bothers me. Also, the platforming aspect is too dumbed down and requires very basic skills.

I've managed to finish Mario Galaxy 1 and played MG2 for a few hours, but it really didn't click.
 
Going to try one of these:

Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: Crystal Bearers is probably the most enjoyable title under the Final Fantasy name ever released, and probably the best Final Fantasy title period. Gameplay rewards experimentation and has a ton of hidden options for defeating your enemies with the telekinetic ability and stands as pretty much the only game to have actually sold me on motion mechanics as anything other than a really annoying gimmick that buttons could have been either outright removed or replaced entirely with better results.

Even most of the story driven minigames, baring dancing at least, were enjoyable in their own right. Especially the one where you have to save the civilians from the big bad, real good feel there if you let it pull you in. Hell, the story was even fun, if only because the lead was amazing and your buddy doesn't actually betray you for power like you'd expect.

Really the only downside, like most things Japanese, was the Beach episode bit. Short to the point, doesn't drag on like most and really enjoyable mechanics, really the only major negative thrown against it is that it's not an RPG, which if you go in not expecting that could color your opinion quite a bit. Still it's pretty great and I'd be hankering for a sequel to it if they ever want to try it again, hopefully this time with more bosses and more exploration of the Bearers concept, though with motion controls dead hard to see it happening anytime soon.
 
Nemmy said:
Dark Souls is a good game that is nonetheless tremendously overrated, and owes most of its success and acclaim to the fact that it came out during a generation defined by games with no mechanics and no challenge.
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This is completely true but I feel it says more about console game development last gen than anything related to Souls. Of the last generation, it is still one of the best franchises to be released.
 
I love Nintendo but I want to see what happened if Nintendo just died. No more hardware, and no going third party. They just quit and let's say Sony get's the right to all their franchises and that's it for Nintendo.
 
I think most every game to release since around 2006 has been a gigantic piece of shit.

I'm a hard core nintendo fan boy because I feel like they are the only ones able to innovate within their long running franchises.

I love most games people claim are terrible because at least they are trying new things even if they don't turn out 100% perfect.
 
Dark Souls II and Ni No Kuni are two of the most boring and bland RPG games of last generation.

Indies game have already surpassed AAA games in terms of fun.
 
Vocal Orgasmizzle said:
Nintendo going third party would be best for all of us, is my very unpopular opinion.
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I'm kind of conflicted over this. While I'd love to play games like Zelda and Metroid on PS4, I would also question whether Nintendo would put so much effort in if they weren't trying to sell hardware off the back of the software. From their perspective going third party would probably be a good thing for streamlining the company and improving the profits, but it would also be a shame if they had to cut a huge number of employees if they weren't in the hardware race any more, and it would signal the end of an era.

Spux666 said:
I think most every game to release since around 2006 has been a gigantic piece of shit.

I'm a hard core nintendo fan boy because I feel like they are the only ones able to innovate within their long running franchises.
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Jesus, so Nintendo are the only publisher or developer to develop a game since 2006 that wasn't "a gigantic piece of shit"?! Ha ha, oh wow!
 
Not sure how controversial this is but Red Dead Redemption is the best game Rockstar have ever made...but Sleeping Dogs is a better game.
 
Dark Souls 2 is a gigantic turd.
Demon Souls and Dark Souls were fantastic,
But Dark Souls 2 has been made by a From Software B-Team, which tried to please some mainstream gamers + media.
The game is a gigantic downgrade to the first two Souls games.
It's horrible (after playing DeS and DS1)!
 
Gears of War 3 has the best multiplayer in the business alongside BF4.
PS3 controller is the worst ever made.
Last of Us is the best game of that generation and the multiplayer is amazing.
Killer Instinct is the best fighter in the market today. Dat netcode.
Ultimate Marvel 3 is incredible boring.
Uncharted 3 is better than Uncharted 2.
Demon Souls is better than Dark Souls.
Xbox 360 was way better than PS3 but now it's the oposite.
Can't understand why people like Pokémon so much.

That's the ones i can think right now.
 
Phantasy Star Online is an abomination to the Phantasy Star franchise. I'll never forgive them for the Dreamcast release, which all but pointed towards a traditional Phantasy Star game.

SEGA NEEDS to put effort into bringing PS5 out. A traditional RPG and not another PSO.
 
Triggerhappytel said:
I'm kind of conflicted over this. While I'd love to play games like Zelda and Metroid on PS4, I would also question whether Nintendo would put so much effort in if they weren't trying to sell hardware off the back of the software. From their perspective going third party would probably be a good thing for streamlining the company and improving the profits, but it would also be a shame if they had to cut a huge number of employees if they weren't in the hardware race any more, and it would signal the end of an era.



Jesus, so Nintendo are the only publisher or developer to develop a game since 2006 that wasn't "a gigantic piece of shit"?! Ha ha, oh wow!
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Haha, no but the ones that I found not to be shit are the pretty obscure games. Stuff like Catherine, Asuras Wrath, Killer is Dead, Wonderful 101, Dark Souls (not obscure), EDF 2025, Anarchy Reigns, El Shaddai.........Also notice how I'm not listing a single western game :p
 
Gipsy Danger said:
Most AAA games are a complete waste of time and money. I've been more impressed by indie and mid-tier games in the last 3 years than almost all AAA games.

Saying that, the Arkham series is an incredible bunch of games and IMO an exception to the rule.
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Completely agree with you but Arkham is no exception :p Though saying it's an incredible "Batman" game is another story :)
 
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