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[BigDeadFreak]

Did you actually own a Neo Geo?

I've got an MVS arcade machine. I never had one when they were current though.

 

[TheMule1983]

PS5 and it's not even close. It was the console I have been most hyped for (I'm 42 now, been gaming since pitfall on the Atari 2600).

Just a complete let down. I'm hoping they can correct the course for PS6 but this current leadership is trash (not Phil and friends level of trash but still). I really can't believe how bad this generation has been for Sony. It's easily their worst console.

 

[MicTyson]

It's ironic that the Xbox diehards are voting PS5 when they were overhyping the series X on the outset of the gen, telling everyone how it was going to dominate with it's tech. If this is about exclusive games surely you can only make a judgement at the end of the gen. I don't think I can look at anything on that list as overhyped, except maybe stadia as that was a bit of a wet fart. At the time I played any of the old consoles upon their release I had enjoyed them for what they were. As for the current consoles I think they're all great bits of tech and there are a lot of great games to play. How anyone can say they have nothing to play is beyond me.

To be fair, the other side was hyping their system also.

It's funny listening to the fanboys argue about their consoles power when they are just made with mid tier PC parts not and there isn't any special sauce anymore.

The console fanboys are convinced they are going to do something more than the PC that came out 5 years before it would do.

I remember Sony Ponies here going on at nauseam about how this special SSD was going to completely change the games we play. Guess what? It did the same thing an SSD did to a PC over a decade before it. Some Mark Cerny jizz sauce was going to make this SSD do things never seen before, You couldn't tell them anything though.

 

[Sooner]

Overrated on Internet forums? Easily, the Dreamcast.

I got one on launch day and still own it to this day. It really did not offer much.

 

[MicTyson]

Well I'm just talking what is overrated right now on the internet, and the GC has so many cultist lately it's crazy. Especially all the people going nuts over motherfucking Mario Sunshine and Wind Waker, which are some of the worst pieces of shit ever made. I guess you could also say it was the last time Nintendo actually tried to compete in the traditional console space. I don't know about the N64 being underrated either, it sold quite a bit in the US and it's exactly rated for what it is, a console with 2 o 3 extraordinary games that teached everyone how to design 3d games, and like 10 of other good games. Even though I'm seeing a lot of people calling M64 and OoT badly aged and shit, that's way too far.

If we want to talk about overratedness vs actual commercial success then it must be the Wii and all of its horrifying shovelware, and probably the Switch with so many fucking late ports and Wii U conversions. Yeah I'd say Nintendo consoles in general, maybe they're not necessarily overrated but surely overhyped.
Only Nintendo fans can hype themselves this much for one decent kart game and a bunch of inferior, very late third party ports, GC emulation that runs worse than 2012 laptops, terrible online that works like garbage and favela Discord.

Agreed. Nintendo has sucked ass imo since the N64 era. There are a few good games here snd there and that's about it. You don't even get many good 3rd party games while you wait for few good Nintendo made games because 3rd party support has been horrendous on Nintendo since the N64.

Gamecube FN sucked.

 

[Giallo Corsa]

To be fair, the other side was hyping their system also.

It's funny listening to the fanboys argue about their consoles power when they are just made with mid tier PC parts not and there isn't any special sauce anymore.

The console fanboys are convinced they are going to do something more than the PC that came out 5 years before it would do.

I remember Sony Ponies here going on at nauseam about how this special SSD was going to completely change the games we play. Guess what? It did the same thing an SSD did to a PC over a decade before it. Some Mark Cerny jizz sauce was going to make this SSD do things never seen before, You couldn't tell them anything though.

You of all people talking about fanboyism...

Also : yet another late 2010's account with barely 100 posts, subtlety and self awareness are never the strong points of alt accounts/astroturfers it seems.

 

[dreamstation]

Wait you mean being let down by Sony right? 3rd party isn't the issue at all

Let down by everyone.
First party games look and perform exceptionally for the most part, there just aren't enough games. Third party games are abundant but nearly always suffer from issues. Can't win either way.

 

[TGO]

I can only think of one console that was barely a fart in the wind that some make out to be something of a success.

Spoiler

The N64

But I'm not surprised by the Poll leader.

 

[Plies]

Still no votes for Sega CD ..

Ah, it's been a good day.

 

[Dirk Benedict]

PS5.
And, anyone who puts down Sega CD is no Friend of mine.

 

[bender]

Still no votes for Sega CD ..

Ah, it's been a good day.

 

[SeanyQuest]

Don't knock points off it for how Capcom chose to keep pushing in that direction!

Also Resident Evil 5 is one of my favorite co-op experience.. I replay it with a friend almost on a yearly basis.

No doubt. Still plundering 4-1 as well

 

[Plies]

 

[Dirk Benedict]

 

[Dacvak]

Spend five minutes on GAF and you'll quickly realize it's the PS5.

It's not even a bad console, but so many people here act like it's the second coming. It's fine, and that's all it is. Every single Sony console before it had more of an impact and more character.

The best part about the PS5 is the fact that I can play Astro Bot on it.

 

[Gambit2483]

I can only think of one console that was barely a fart in the wind that some make out to be something of a success.

Spoiler

The N64

But I'm not surprised by the Poll leader.

I feel like people who say N64...never owned an N64. Was it disappointing in some/many respects? Sure. But did it have genre defining/changing bangers (for it's time)? Absolutely. It also introduced Analog control and Force-Feedback

 

[Plies]

It also introduced Force-Feedback

That was never built-into the controller, so most gamers missed out.

 

[Gambit2483]

That was never built-into the controller, so most gamers missed out.

Yea but everyone got to experience analog control/true 3d movement

 

[Sanepar]

Ps2 easy, horrendous graphics, horrendous performance. Most of "exclusives" were third party games that came to other platforms later with better performance.

 

[TGO]

I feel like people who say N64...never owned an N64.

So it's unanimous then...

Sadly every Nintendo console has made its way into my house, which is lucky because I would never had known how shit the N64 controller was..
SNES & GCN are probably my favourites, although the GCN controller is some fisher price level shit.

 

[MicTyson]

Overrated on Internet forums? Easily, the Dreamcast.

I got one on launch day and still own it to this day. It really did not offer much.

Loved the Dreamcast but Genesis was peak SEGA. SE

You of all people talking about fanboyism...

Also : yet another late 2010's account with barely 100 posts, subtlety and self awareness are never the strong points of alt accounts/astroturfers it seems.

what am I a fanboy of? Can you show the posts?

 

[Games Bookstore]

GameCube has the worst Zelda, the worst Mario and one of the worst Mario Kart game, yet has hundreds of obsessive fanboys that idolize this console and these games because they were their first.

Definitely not my first console but was my favourite console that gen. To name a few standout titles:

Metroid Prime 1 and 2
RE 0, Remake and 4
Wind Waker and Twilight Princess
Rogue Squadron 2
Mario Sunshine

I loved ps1, but ps2 I just did not vibe with anywhere near as much. Not that it was bad, just not as great as I was expecting.

 

[FoxMcChief]

GAF poll results still looking accurate as ever.

 

[LordBlodgett]

This feels like old school console wars

 

[Nvzman]

The Wii. Literally a waggle box for a 83y granny to exercise to while watching CNN. I question the sanity of every actual gamer that bought it, and loved it.

Funny because imo the GameCube was my vote for this thread.

Its retroactively beloved but honestly I think Wind Waker (and maybe Melee) are the only two games that didn't have superior Wii counterparts. Also the controller is straight up fucking horribly uncomfortable and is terrible for anything that isn't Smash or Mario Sunshine.

The Wii was actually an awesome console, it has a near PS2-level library of quality shit to play and I loved Nintendo's attempts at online social content with the Mii voting channels and Nintendo app giving DS demos and stuff like that. Was genuinely cool back in the day.

Anyone saying PS5 or Series X/S doesn't understand what overrated means, it's a pretty common complaint that this gen has overall been lacking

 

[kevboard]

Funny because imo the GameCube was my vote for this thread.

Its retroactively beloved but honestly I think Wind Waker (and maybe Melee) are the only two games that didn't have superior Wii counterparts. Also the controller is straight up fucking horribly uncomfortable and is terrible for anything that isn't Smash or Mario Sunshine.

The Wii was actually an awesome console, it has a near PS2-level library of quality shit to play and I loved Nintendo's attempts at online social content with the Mii voting channels and Nintendo app giving DS demos and stuff like that. Was genuinely cool back in the day.

Anyone saying PS5 or Series X/S doesn't understand what overrated means, it's a pretty common complaint that this gen has overall been lacking

the GameCube had ok-ish third party support, the Wii didn't. third party games on Wii were 90% shovelware, 5% crappy ports of better 360 games, and 5% actually decent games.

if you had only a GameCube during gen6, you'd be fine.
if you only had a Wii during gen7... you were fucked... you'd have 1 great game a year tops on average, while the 360 would have banger after banger.
sure the GameCube wasn't the best all-rounder system, and yes the controller is shit for anything that isn't a Nintendo game, but the Wii is worse in both departments.

 

[DeVeAn]

Switch easily. Honestly to the point of annoyance. So many Wii U ports and almost all 3rd party ports run worse then the competition. Then they want you to pay for half assed online services. It has gotten more value but it took YEARS.

Also, you can't run switch docked without battery is lame for end of life use. My launch unit needed a new battery and impossible to find a replacement that is as good as the battery it came with.

 

[Vaquilla]

if you only had a Wii during gen7... you were fucked... you'd have 1 great game a year tops on average, while the 360 would have banger after banger.

I didn't find this remotely true; while I did own all three consoles in Gen 7, my Wii collection is over 50 games, which averages out to over 8 games per year over its 6 year lifespan.

 

[Lord Malachite]

Wii by a solid mile. The majority of games on it that weren't by Nintendo were mediocre, poor, or shovelware. Some of the Nintendo games were lackluster too, though it also had some high standouts. The Wii also stubbornly clung to SD while its competitors embraced HD. The entire system was based around a clumsy remote gimmick that added little to gaming beyond a fad of getting older people to check out some casual games before they got bored with the gimmick.

I wish that Nintendo had come up with the concept for the Switch earlier so we could've skipped the embarrassing Wii and WiiU eras altogether, at least as far as Nintendo is concerned.

 

[Boss Mog]

Wii was massively popular and a true piece of shit, the definition of overrated

Agreed, 99% of its games were shovelware of the highest order.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

To be fair, the other side was hyping their system also.

It's funny listening to the fanboys argue about their consoles power when they are just made with mid tier PC parts not and there isn't any special sauce anymore.

The console fanboys are convinced they are going to do something more than the PC that came out 5 years before it would do.

I remember Sony Ponies here going on at nauseam about how this special SSD was going to completely change the games we play. Guess what? It did the same thing an SSD did to a PC over a decade before it. Some Mark Cerny jizz sauce was going to make this SSD do things never seen before, You couldn't tell them anything though.

That SSD stuff was a such a shit show. The funny thing is DF did a test with R&C on PC using as old of an SSD they could find. I think it ran at just 1-2gb/s and the game worked perfectly fine. A fraction of PS5's SSD speed. The only difference was the transitional time warping kind of screens took a touch longer.

Also a funny thing about console fanboys is notice how they never bring up how stupid it is to pay for MP online when on PC it's free (aside from dedicated MMO kind of games like WoW etc...). And console games are more expensive than Steam/GOG. And all the bickering about quality vs performance mode is pretty stupid since PC gamers can tweak tons of settings to adjust frames/image quality how they like.

Though I was a 360 gamer back in the day, it was hilarious how 360/PS3 gamers would claim their 720p games at "up to 30 fps" were somehow better looking than a PC game on a good rig.

Those meme pics you see every once in a while where a PCMR guy is watching MS/Sony/Nintendo guys duke it out is so true. It's like guys who own a Civic and Mazda 3, while someone who drives a BMW is chilling watching them argue whose car is better.

 

[AREYOUOKAY?]

I remember Sony Ponies here going on at nauseam about how this special SSD was going to completely change the games we play. Guess what? It did the same thing an SSD did to a PC over a decade before it. Some Mark Cerny jizz sauce was going to make this SSD do things never seen before, You couldn't tell them anything though.

But Ratchet isn't possible on PC... Or so some said.

 

[Alan Wake]

The vast majority of Saturn's multiplats were inferior to PlayStation, and there would often be a lag between releases.

There's been a bit of hype of YouTube about how much of a hidden gem the Saturn is and, as someone who owned one back in the day, temper your expectations.

1996 was a great year for Sega's first party (Sega Rally and Virtua Fighter 2 slipped into that year here in the UK), but after that it just died on its arse in terms of game releases in the west.

Nostalgia does weird things to people. I was a Saturn owner at the time and just remember reading about games that would not come to Saturn. Month after month. It was a tough time being a Sega gamer. We had Tomb Raider and Resident Evil but no sequels. There were long droughts. At the time I was a teenager and couldn't afford many games anyway, today it would have been atrocious.

 

[RetroGamingUK]

Nostalgia does weird things to people. I was a Saturn owner at the time and just remember reading about games that would not come to Saturn. Month after month. It was a tough time being a Sega gamer. We had Tomb Raider and Resident Evil but no sequels. There were long droughts. At the time I was a teenager and couldn't afford many games anyway, today it would have been atrocious.

Sonic X-treme and Tomb Raider II being cancelled were the two that hit hardest.

It was seeing Sonic X-treme in magazines was the moment I decided to get a Saturn and while I loved playing Sega Rally, Virtua Fighter 2, Panzer Zwei and NiGHTS that year it was all about the upcoming Sonic for me.

Tomb Raider ended up being my favourite game for the system, seeing TR2 in magazines and being labelled as "PlayStation/PC" only was really gutting.

 

[Burger King]

The Xbox Series:
- No exclusive games
- High price
- Worst OS among consoles

The only reason to choose it is if you frequently use Game Pass. End.

 

[AREYOUOKAY?]

The Xbox Series:
- No exclusive games
- High price
- Worst OS among consoles

The only reason to choose it is if you frequently use Game Pass. End.

Yes well to be overrated you have to be highly rated in the first place. What they have done recently isn't doing them any favors.

 

[Gonzito]

Nintendo Switch

 

[rofif]

guess the question is about the system. Not about the generation.
There is nothing overrated about ps5 as a system

 

[PharaoTutAnchAmun]

PS5 is voted worst PlayStation and now most overrated console

Thats because the Xbots are pushing eachother to vote for the PS5, DEFLECTING that the Xboxseries sucks more

 

[clappedcheeks]

To be fair, the other side was hyping their system also.

It's funny listening to the fanboys argue about their consoles power when they are just made with mid tier PC parts not and there isn't any special sauce anymore.

The console fanboys are convinced they are going to do something more than the PC that came out 5 years before it would do.

I remember Sony Ponies here going on ad nauseam about how this special SSD was going to completely change the games we play. Guess what? It did the same thing an SSD did to a PC over a decade before it. Some Mark Cerny jizz sauce was going to make this SSD do things never seen before, You couldn't tell them anything though.

The point of the SSD or the velocity architecture was to allow more seamless worlds with higher fidelity and not having to rely on a huge amount of system memory to accomplish it. To do more with less. As for changing the way we play, well that's down to devs to come up with something. They're both capable systems and just because that aspect hasn't been fully utilised it does mean the potential isn't there. The trouble we have now is that exclusive games are becoming a rarity so the likelihood of getting something coded to take advantage of it has diminished.

 

[clappedcheeks]

Thats because the Xbots are pushing eachother to vote for the PS5, DEFLECTING that the Xboxseries sucks more

The result does seem disingenuous when the series has so few votes and there's not really that much that separates it from the PS5. The series consoles had a huge amount of hype from the media at the beginning of the generation regardless of where things stand right now.

 

[Karim]

Voted switch 2 BUT I'm just talking of Nintendo fanboys expectations about games perfomance.

 

[Cakeboxer]

The result does seem disingenuous when the series has so few votes and there's not really that much that separates it from the PS5. The series consoles had a huge amount of hype from the media at the beginning of the generation regardless of where things stand right now.

- Hyped/overhyped = anticipation/energy BEFORE or AT release
- Overrated = criticism AFTER or DURING the popularity phase

Still, some people apparently don't understand this and defend their plastic toys as if their life depends on it.

 

[Redneckerz]

Phillips CD-I and 3DO. Although, the latter accurately predicted the price hike consoles would have, some 30 years later.

Surprised this thread has this many pages. People have opinions, i guess.

 

[chromatic9]

I don't think the PS5 is highly rated, the system and Sony are doing a reasonable-good job overall, disappointing compared to previous gens in terms of first party output.

 

[PaintTinJr]

the GameCube had ok-ish third party support, the Wii didn't. third party games on Wii were 90% shovelware, 5% crappy ports of better 360 games, and 5% actually decent games.

if you had only a GameCube during gen6, you'd be fine.
if you only had a Wii during gen7... you were fucked... you'd have 1 great game a year tops on average, while the 360 would have banger after banger.
sure the GameCube wasn't the best all-rounder system, and yes the controller is shit for anything that isn't a Nintendo game, but the Wii is worse in both departments.

I agree with some of this, but what single banger -ie not a generic FPS over the shoulder dude bro shooter - that still holds up today was on Xbox that the Wii didn't have an alternative?

Skyward Sword is quite possibly the best version of that genre - bar none IMHO - because of the one to one motion controls of sword and shield and the game in general on such weak hardware is still a good looking banger even today....and Wii Sports Tennis which is the origin of Switch Sports Tennis is arguable one of the simplest but best games of all time at a Pac-Man or Tetris 'best' level.

All these years on where the shine of all games from that era has dulled - because people are fixated with 4K, 1440p and DLSS, VRR and higher frame-rates on those types of generic games - the Wii's best games wipe the floor with anything on the PC in a box 360 library IMO... and only at the time would only having just a Wii have felt gated from many games and missing out.

 

[Elfstar]

Nostalgia does weird things to people. I was a Saturn owner at the time and just remember reading about games that would not come to Saturn. Month after month. It was a tough time being a Sega gamer. We had Tomb Raider and Resident Evil but no sequels. There were long droughts. At the time I was a teenager and couldn't afford many games anyway, today it would have been atrocious.

The vast majority of Saturn's multiplats were inferior to PlayStation, and there would often be a lag between releases.

There's been a bit of hype of YouTube about how much of a hidden gem the Saturn is and, as someone who owned one back in the day, temper your expectations.

1996 was a great year for Sega's first party (Sega Rally and Virtua Fighter 2 slipped into that year here in the UK), but after that it just died on its arse in terms of game releases in the west.

The point is that, yes, being a Saturn owner back in the day in the west mostly sucked, but things have changed now since we're getting tons of Japanese exclusive games translated while we're also being able to easily get them running thanks to all the ODEs, the Saroos and the whatevers.
The console is madly underrated and it deserves to have the little to decent resurgence it's getting in these like 10 years or so.
I could even say it's one of the "better aged" of that gen thanks to all the wonderful 2d games in it's library.

 

[Plies]

The point is that, yes, being a Saturn owner back in the day in the west mostly sucked, but things have changed now since we're getting tons of Japanese exclusive games translated while we're also being able to easily get them running thanks to all the ODEs, the Saroos and the whatevers.
The console is madly underrated and it deserves to have the little to decent resurgence it's getting in these like 10 years or so.
I could even say it's one of the "better aged" of that gen thanks to all the wonderful 2d games in it's library.

I agree that the perception of the Saturn would be different if more titles from Japan made their way overseas.

 

[LordCBH]

It's the N64.

Two Zelda's, Mario 64, Paper Mario, and Starfox. The rest (what little there is) is mostly dogshit with a few exceptions.

And I loved my N64 back in the day and now. But its library was overall crap with like 4 gems.

 

[deriks]

For sure the PS5, and actually the whole Sony is overrated

Marketing as "we care for generation leap", but even first party games are PS4 level. It's selling good mostly because Microsoft fucked up since the final days of the 360

If one day Microsoft catches up, they're fucked. Remember that almost happened with the PS3