Cornbread78
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Not really,
Dragon's Dogma appears to have sold around 1.5 million worldwide and the last Prince of Persia around 1/2 million..
Gamespot rumor: Big third-party Xbox One exclusive at E3
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Not really,
Dragon's Dogma appears to have sold around 1.5 million worldwide and the last Prince of Persia around 1/2 million..
ItWasMeantToBe19
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I'm guessing that Bethesda will be expecting Fallout 4 to sell between 15-20 million units when it finally does come out so Microsoft would probably need a moneyhat in the hundreds of millions range to get Fallout 4 exclusivity.
And Bethesda has said that F4 isn't going to be shown for a while IIRC.
And Bethesda has said that F4 isn't going to be shown for a while IIRC.
LilWayneSuckz
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I'm gonna totally guess that it's gonna be Mass Effect 4 or Resident Evil 7
Sure, I'd kill for a new one too.... but not ona friggin console. Jeebus. The dumbing down. Think of the dumbing down!
Freeman
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Cyberpunk exclusivity would be downright dangerous to CD Project Red, two years from now who knows how big the gap could be?
People who are expecting some huge multiplataform franchise locked down need a reality check.
I personally wish it was RE7, exclusivity deals is what pretty much killed classic RE, it would be only fitting the post RE4 era died in a similar manner.
People who are expecting some huge multiplataform franchise locked down need a reality check.
I personally wish it was RE7, exclusivity deals is what pretty much killed classic RE, it would be only fitting the post RE4 era died in a similar manner.
Mass Effect 4 timed exclusive seems plausible given it's EA, and MS past history with the franchise. Although I'm not sure it would be a wise decision for EA to split up the fanbase after finally getting both platforms on the same page regarding ME IP.
So that's why Zampella was upset when he (the developer) learned that the game signed an exclusivity deal right?
This game was being developed before the full exclusivity deal even took place, even hits at PS3 code in there as well.
The loss? The opportunity cost of not releasing on PS3/PS4, so double the last-gen consoles and triple the current-gen consoles (~2:1 PS4:Xbox One).
Nightengale
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The game would barely be over 1.5 years into development, I don't know how it can possibly be in development hell so early. ( DD: Dark Arisen was a 2013 title)
funkystudent
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Biowares new IP is more likely then ME or any other game from EA
And I think Dragons Dogma 2 is just a smokes screen. DD didnt exactly set the world on fire. I dont see why MS would care for the sequel. Maybe its just whats being tossed out to take attention away from what it really is. IE RE7, MonHon or something.
I still think CyberPunk 2077 though. Too much smoke around the CDPR + MS fire. Reminds me of Insomniac last year. No one leaked that they where going with MS but everyone just kind of knew by the way they acted.
GoofsterStud
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No you didn't. Different generation different rules. Same badic architecture vs different architecture for easy porting is a huge deal.
Dredd97
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Sorry not gonna happen, sure MS have money but their not going to blow their wad for them...
Well Phil did say he wanted to try to get RTS's to actually work on consoles.
Barry Burton
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I'm gonna guess Capcom is the publisher, and Devil May Cry is the game. It's something I could definitely see happening.
Scully Scully Scoo
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seeing some of the predictions on here (fallour 4, mass effect 4 etc.) most of u are going to be very disappointed i think. no way is a game of that calibre going to be exclusive for either console.
something like vanquish i could see happening, prince of persia is a strange one i dont see the point of it. ryse 2, maybe even time splitters that would be awesome
something like vanquish i could see happening, prince of persia is a strange one i dont see the point of it. ryse 2, maybe even time splitters that would be awesome
What? The game was already running on PS3, and UE3 was already multiplatform.
And no, different generation doesn't automatically mean different logic, in fact, the logic is exactly the same, and it's what is best for the company, are the sales from PS4 they're going to lose from launching a year later more than the money hat, if the answer is yes, it's a bad deal, if the answer is no, it's a good deal.
If Cyberpunk was projected to lose a million PS4 sales by being exclusive for one year, then the moneyhat needs to be more than twenty five million dollars. There are other factors, like franchise erosion in that audience, DLC, etc, but it's ultimately just still a question of money, as it was last generation, and every generation before that.
bigDdestruction
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Maybe its Lost Odyssey 2!
. I could see this being a timed exclusive just like many of microsoft's titles that we thought were to be exclusive to the 360 last gen i.e. Dead Rising, Mass Effect etc.
lol yeah right
MilkyJoe
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funkystudent
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Like I said earlier. They literally call themselves "Leading the fight against DRM" but it was 100% ok to team up with MS last year when they had the worst DRM ever seen.
Money talks and CD Project are no different then any other publisher in that regard.
BruiserBear
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So tales from your ass. Thanks for the clarification.
You have no idea how much EA/Respawn got paid for that deal.
AuthenticM
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I wouldn't be surprised if it was a Capcom game.
Scully Scully Scoo
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how much of the devil may cry series sales happen in japan? if its a large percentage i dont see it being exclusive. i just cant see an established japanese franchise being exclusive to ms console
Didn't Demonite or Kagari tease a big 3rd party exclusive for PS4 too though? Or was that already revealed?
Freeman
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EA will be the first to abandon ship if they feel the partnership is not benefiting them.
Would you be arguing this much if Sony had stepped in to help support a game published by a different company and asked for exclusivity rights? No, you're just mad it's Microsoft.
What a joke.
Nothing will make me believe that EA hadn't enough funds and manpower to complete Titanfall
It was a pure Moneyhating, whatever they say/claim
sixteen-bit
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Devil's Third
BronsonLee
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Are we still on the Titanfall exclusivity thing? I think it worked well for them in terms of getting more of a marketing push due to being the first big title for them. That being said, who knows what they wanna do now?
But I doubt it's Titanfall 2, since they would just announce that, ya?
I think this is Project Beast?
That's not third party.
You do know contracts have time and money stipulations? Respawn had been "working" on Titanfall for nearly 2 and a half years with almost nothing to show in their original deal with EA. Microsoft got them more time and money by asking them to bring the game to the Xbox One.
ViewtifulJC
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Half-Life 3
Barry Burton
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Well, it wouldn't be unprecedented. MS got a number of Sega and Tecmo exclusives back in the original Xbox days. Everything has a price.
funkystudent
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That or there own exclusive Souls game would be funny as hell.
The only game that would bother me that I can think of if it was XB1 exclusive would be Fallout 4 or Left4Dead 3, but even then I would hope Bethesda/Valve wouldn't be so dumb to not bring it to the PC, which is where I would play them anyway, and I imagine MS wouldn't be willing to pay to keep it off of the PC either.
I'm probably going to pick up an XB1 for Sunset OD this holiday regardless, so likely not an issue for me.
I really can't think of anything else that would bug me tho. Expecting the salt levels to be at historical levels tho.
I'm probably going to pick up an XB1 for Sunset OD this holiday regardless, so likely not an issue for me.
I really can't think of anything else that would bug me tho. Expecting the salt levels to be at historical levels tho.
Except that Dragon's Dogma significantly better in Japan, where an Xbox exclusive equates to lighting money on fire, and on the Playstation 3, because it's audience was more aligned with that kind of game. Since then the shift in audience hasn't been PS3 users moving to XB1 but instead X360 users moving to PS4.
So unless MS is paying for the entire thing AND a nice little profit margin for Capcom it makes zero financial sense. But then you never know when Capcom will Capcpom.
It also requires MS doing this for a title that will factually sell far less than it's predecessor and move less than 1% of the console Titanfall sold (which wasn't as many as they'd hoped in the first place).
There where tons of insiders who had said Insomniac signed with MS months before Sunset Overdrive was revealed.
Also, Cyberpunk 2077 is CDPR's next big IP as The Witcher is 1. not actually their original IP and 2. has a finite life expectancy due to that fact. 2077 is their springboard away from relying on someone else's IP and I really don't see how they're going to intentionally shrink their audience by tying it to a console that is clearly going to be a distant second in everywhere but the U.S. and will struggle to even stay a close second there. It's bad long term IP planning and that is the entire point to 2077.
You're completely ignoring the business elements related to IP ownership. So it costs them 1M sales on PS4 with 2077 and MS cuts them a check for $25M. Great. So now what do they do with the sequel when the Xbox One has a 20M user base, the PS4 has a 100M user base, and they're launching against a Playstation "loyal" RPG franchise like the second RPG from Guerrilla Games (since it and 2077 probably have a pretty similar release date)? Even if they're day and date on both consoles then they've attached a stigma to their brand. Hence why even though FFXIII came out at a time when the Xbox 360 was the clear market leader in the U.S. it still sold better on the PS3.
Franchises and brands become affiliated with other franchises and brands when they make exclusive partnerships. That often has a positive effect, but sometimes it can also be damaging. I think EA and Respawn are just finding that out now with Titanfall. They bet on the Xbox One being the clear winner and that isn't happening. Now the IP they locked in to that platform is going to be competing with Destiny or it's sequel in a few years with less brand recognition on the dominant platform, let willingness by the first party to help them advertise through their marketplace, some low level dismissive leanings from the core audience of that platform (because fanboys gonna fanboy), etc.. They've handicapped their new IP out of the gate because they bet on the wrong horse and that is likely going to follow their IP for the rest of this generation. It will never be the next CoD now because of that choice and are now just hoping and praying that Destiny doesn't pick up where CoD left off now that the later is going into the early stages of sales decline.
TheJollyCorner
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Verendus has a few times since last year, I believe.
SmokedMeat
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Ok, I'm going to predict League of Legends. I can really see it happening.
Netherscourge
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That would get my attention.
I loved the PSX King's Field games. But From Software seems more friendly with Sony than Microsoft.
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