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[VaizardNL]

GO play a souls game man

Then you will understand

Hehe ok. Glad Dark Souls comes with GwG in June then ^^

It's a specific game for a specific type of player, but yeah, people are obsessed with it if they're into it. It has become a cult of personality particularly tied to Miyazaki as well.

They are also just really well-designed games. It's a relatively small franchise with a couple million dedicated players. All of them have a grimdark fantasy feel.

Thank you

 

[Stone Ocean]

I don't get it.

I don't remember seeing this much salt for Titanfall. I mean sure people were confused and upset as to why it was exclusive, but pretty much after it was known if it weren't for MS Titanfall wouldn't have been possible, people let it go.

Now we have a "sort of" confirmation this was co-developed with SCEWS, and people are still mad. (Others hide it well, from what I can see.)

People care more for niche core games than stuff you can see every other day. And it's not like Titanfall was completely exclusive, you had 3 platforms to choose from. This one on the other hand, you either get a PS4 or you don't play it.

 

[backflip10019]

we have better quality ones:

Will be cool is someone cuts it so it just loops around him running though

Damn, this is really good looking. Might have to pick up a PS4 at some point.

 

[Steroyd]

I don't get it.

I don't remember seeing this much salt for Titanfall. I mean sure people were confused and upset as to why it was exclusive, but pretty much after it was known if it weren't for MS Titanfall wouldn't have been possible, people let it go.

Now we have a "sort of" confirmation this was co-developed with SCEWS, and people are still mad. (Others hide it well, from what I can see.)

It probably happens in phases from initial reveal, it happened with Bayonetta 2 as well, that said the platform it was anchored to didn't help, although I don't recall pronounced port begging of Dead Rising 3.(Correct me if I'm wrong).

 

[Bruticuz]

Nightz Lordz also has exclusive dlc and you can stay connected to your 7830483 friends on your friends list.

Now even beter with Kinect, rip the Nightz..uhum..Souls from you enemy with gestures.
And is progression slow, buy Nightz Souls in from our microtransaction store.

 

[TangibleDream]

GIF version:

This is probably the best pro-Sony gif I've seen. And I've seen plenty. Close second is the one where Kaz is a pilot and starts kicking the shit out of everything XBO did wrong in their unveiling.

This one is just wonderfully edited.

 

[Dragon Puncher]

This looks amazing.. More hype for this than any other game right now!!

 

[DrROBschiz]

People care more for niche core games than stuff you can see every other day. And it's not like Titanfall was completely exclusive, you had 3 platforms to choose from. This one on the other hand, you either get a PS4 or you don't play it.

Cross Gen is driving people up the wall man

Time to move forward

Sony is pretty much funding this so its just the reality of the situation

Im all for it if it ends up being amazing. Cross Gen curse hit Dark Souls 2 really hard

 

[super-famicom]

So hyped for this. Love FROM so much!

 

[Joe Shlabotnik]

Who knows? All we're getting for now is the project's name.

Does it even matter, though?

It would suggest the game is very close in its design goals to Demon's / Dark Souls. Right now there's no knowing whether this is a significant departure from the series.

 

[wapplew]

What will be the final title of this game?

Guns up?

 

[grindamasta]

Will be cool is someone cuts it so it just loops around him running though

 

[Appollowexx]

This looks amazing. Day 1.

I really like the art style of the souls games, they have a dirty, grainy, organic look. Also the shotgun + scythe combo looks so bad-ass.

Let's hope for a full blow-out at E3.

 

[Psycho_Mantis]

you have a heart of gold....I can watch this for hours.

 

[Niandra_LaDes]

Cross Gen is driving people up the wall man

Time to move forward

Sony is pretty much funding this so its just the reality of the situation

Im all for it if it ends up being amazing. Cross Gen curse hit Dark Souls 2 really hard

This. The exclusivity is good if it prevents a last-gen version of the game. We saw how that turned out for DS2. No doubt that game would have run better if limited to PC and next (current?) gen.

 

[cerulily]

Could you elaborate more. I feel like I agree in certain respects but it was very much a Souls game.

2 tries to place itself in dark souls 1 world, but never ever substantiates this insinuation. Most sections of lore are just plain missing. Dark Souls 1 never had a "give 1 piece of lore and let people run with it" it had a complete world that was just scattered and needed to be pieced together.

No explanation of the core story, final badguy wasn't even hinted at until 2/3rds the way through the game. Their motivations are unclear and non-sensical. then on the 2nd playthrough it is revealed that they are something else that makes this motivation make even less sense.

Less freedom to set your own direction early on.
Hard to find interesting/useful weapons for any build you want until half way through the game.
World lacking in saturation.
World lacks the build-up congestion that 1st one had.
Lack of texture all-around.
Much much worse level design, world doesn't connect seamlessly like dark souls 1.

No explanation why, even if the world is the same as 1, why certain things like dragons seem to be a-ok. (ignores story precedent from first game while trying to co-opt it's story.)

One single ending, devoid of player choice. Goes against what souls games stand for. Dialogue clearly say you have a choice but you don't.

The game literally makes no sense.

I can probably say more, and i have screenshots to illustrate a lot of these points, but i don't want to get nailed for spoiling everything

 

[Cabal]

Just saw this and it looks unbelievably cool. Cannot wait. I just hope it comes out soon. If this is holiday 2015, I'm going to be sad.

 

[Shyakugaun]

I don't get it.

I don't remember seeing this much salt for Titanfall. I mean sure people were confused and upset as to why it was exclusive, but pretty much after it was known if it weren't for MS Titanfall wouldn't have been possible, people let it go.

Now we have a "sort of" confirmation this was co-developed with SCEWS, and people are still mad. (Others hide it well, from what I can see.)

Bro the Titanfall salt is still the gold standard, i still haven't seen anything like it before, not even with this game

Dat running

 

[CadetMahoney]

Can't wait for the graphical downgrade!

That'll be later after everyone has pre-ordered it.

 

[Renoir]

I really hope its not the same oki dok we got with the trailer from DSII...
Hope this footage is actual game play and doesnt get down graded this time around..

With Ps4 Powa.. this game cant get a downgrade
right?......

 

[BadWolf]

Holy shit.

People bitching that Sony won't deliver at E3 but all they need to do is show this and walk the fuck off the stage.

Gotta say though, it would have been one hell of an experience if we all found out about this together during the E3 conference instead of leaks.

 

[SeventhSon]

This is the music that should be used with that clip

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyz_2DEah4o

 

[PRO7IFIC]

Fuck me.

 

[dragonbane]

Beyond: two souls remaster is all i need. Any word on this happening?

It's happening. There is so much evidence all over the place. Portfolio leaks, famousmortimer, Director's Cut hint, Executive Producer retweeting people asking for a PS4 version without actually replying...

 

[Jigolo]

It's happening. There is so much evidence all over the place.

Really, where?

 

[Psycho_Mantis]

This is the music that should be used with that clip

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyz_2DEah4o

lol

A-team don't do downgrades....thats not how they roll.

 

[Souless Squirrel]

I really hope its not the same oki dok we got with the trailer from DSII...
Hope this footage is actual game play and doesnt get down graded this time around..

With Ps4 Powa.. this game cant get a downgrade
right?......

Has a ps4 exclusive received a downgrade yet? I'm actually wondering this. I'm pretty sure that all of them have launched on par or even slightly better looking than their reveals.

 

[Screaming Meat]

Fuck me.

a/s/l?

 

[Psycho_Mantis]

Has a ps4 exclusive received a downgrade yet? I'm actually wondering this. I'm pretty sure that all of them have launched on par or even slightly better looking than their reveals.

Deep Down, though this looks like gameplay and well in the reach of PS4.

 

[LilWayneSuckz]

Boy you ain't kidding. I can understand being excited for it, but being excited that it's an exclusive comes off as Twilight Zone levels of wackiness. What's more is that I generally see GAF as being strongly pro-consumer so when people get excited about stuff that doesn't benefit the consumer it's a bit difficult to understand.

I hear this frequently but unless you're working on an engine that is specifically built for one kind of platform (which most are not), this comes across as an excuse, not an argument. No one's going to argue that Unity can't be multiplat and make a great game across all platforms. Both of the Souls games preceding whatever this is have not had trouble across multiple platforms.

Do you know how first party publishing works? It's exclusive because Sony is paying for the game's development and also assisting in its development. It has nothing to do with anyone praising it being an exclusive and more to do with the fact that this game would not exist without Sony funding it.

 

[IvorB]

I don't know why people would want it to be a PS4 exclusive anyway. How does it being released on a closed system benefit the consumer?

Because exclusive code developed and tailored to a particular system is generally better than something designed to be lowest common denominator. Didn't we see ample evidence of that last gen? That's my reasoning anyway.

 

[ys45]

Very nice , but I hope no one think this will come out in 2014 ?
I mean unless they started development very early on, I doubt this will be out in 2014.

E3 is getting more interesting now

 

[GameSeeker]

Kagari, thuway, BrruceLeeRoy, DemonNite and the leaker confirmed it was PS4 exclusive.

Just pointing that out.

This needs to be repeated every page of the thread, as many folks seem confused.

Holy shit.

People bitching that Sony won't deliver at E3 but all they need to do is show this and walk the fuck of the stage.

While I'm sure Sony is disappointed this leaked early, it's only a small clip and not the full trailer. We have already had much worse leaks (BF: Hardline anyone?). While the leak reduces the element of surprise, Sony doesn't loose a single customer who will buy this game.

The full trailer at 1080p with sound will be one of the biggest megaton's of E3 and will be very, very hard for Nintendo or Microsoft to top.

 

[DrROBschiz]

2 tries to place itself in dark souls 1 world, but never ever substantiates this insinuation. Most sections of lore are just plain missing. Dark Souls 1 never had a "give 1 piece of lore and let people run with it" it had a complete world that was just scattered and needed to be pieced together.

No explanation of the core story, final badguy wasn't even hinted at until 2/3rds the way through the game. Their motivations are unclear and non-sensical. then on the 2nd playthrough it is revealed that they are something else that makes this motivation make even less sense.

Less freedom to set your own direction early on.
Hard to find interesting/useful weapons for any build you want until half way through the game.
World lacking in saturation.
World lacks the build-up congestion that 1st one had.
Lack of texture all-around.
Much much worse level design, world doesn't connect seamlessly like dark souls 1.

No explanation why, even if the world is the same as 1, why certain things like dragons seem to be a-ok. (ignores story precedent from first game while trying to co-opt it's story.)

One single ending, devoid of player choice. Goes against what souls games stand for. Dialogue clearly say you have a choice but you don't.

The game literally makes no sense.

I can probably say more, and i have screenshots to illustrate a lot of these points, but i don't want to get nailed for spoiling everything

Disagree on teh Story/Lore bits

But strong agreements with all the bolded. Dark Souls 2 would have benefitted heavily from some serious editting (cut content, tighten up areas, more freedom) not to mention a bit more focus on individual details.

I also would have loved more effort into maintaining the visual fidelity shown in the original reveal (duh it was gorgeous)

As for the story stuff. After watching ENB's playthrough it seems actually really well thought out and connected. Actually more telegraphed than the first game IMHO

As for the ending. Its hard to claim multiple endings as a Souls precedent since the previous games only had 2 endings max and there are only 2 previous games.

 

[Mman235]

Assuming equipment is handled like the other games I wonder if the Blade/Scythe thing being used in the trailer (presumably) is a sign that weapons will be more creative and have stuff like multiple attacks modes and similar.

 

[skynidas]

waking up to this...

 

[IvorB]

Fuck me.

Send pic first pls.

 

[T.O.P]

 

[SDCowboy]

Very nice , but I hope no one think this will come out in 2014 ?
I mean unless they started development very early on, I doubt this will be out in 2014.

E3 is getting more interesting now

Didn't people say this was supposed to be shown last year?

 

[Appollowexx]

I really hope its not the same oki dok we got with the trailer from DSII...
Hope this footage is actual game play and doesnt get down graded this time around..

With Ps4 Powa.. this game cant get a downgrade
right?......

Well graphically it doesn't look all that special. The art style is fantastic, but this is hardly going to be a visual showcase for PS4. If it was downgraded i'd be pretty shocked, actually if anything I expect it to look better by launch as the framerate obviously needs some work.

Also remember that Sony Japan is apparently co-developing and they have a great tech team so I really wouldn't worry about the game getting a downgrade, it's a totally different scenario from 'From Software' working on a game solo for last gen consoles.

 

[Psycho_Mantis]

Very nice , but I hope no one think this will come out in 2014 ?
I mean unless they started development very early on, I doubt this will be out in 2014.

E3 is getting more interesting now

Development probably started at the end of Dark Souls so late 2011. Doubt its 2014, 2015 though is very likely.

 

[BadWolf]

I don't know why people would want it to be a PS4 exclusive anyway. How does it being released on a closed system benefit the consumer?

Because they will get a superior game?

The game will be made for the more powerful PS4 from the ground up and not gimped to take the X1 into account. Not to mention From will have a bigger budget and more resources to work with thanks to Sony and its devs.

 

[Skinny Pete]

Actually, there is one that surpasses it...

Yes. This is the greatest gif of all time.

 

[Endo Punk]

This game genuinely deserves hype not crap like Order with its "we can't get around gameplay" ideology. Good luck having great level design with that sort of motivation. If only SonyGaf wont treat games as a checklist against MS we could actually get Sony to take quality experiences seriously.

 

[DrROBschiz]

Well graphically it doesn't look all that special. The art style is fantastic, but this is hardly going to be a visual showcase for PS4. If it was downgraded i'd be pretty shocked, actually if anything I expect it to look better by launch as the framerate obviously needs some work.

Also remember that Sony Japan is apparently co-developing and they have a great tech team so I really wouldn't worry about the game getting a downgrade, it's a totally different scenario from 'From Software' working on a game solo for last gen consoles.

How could we possibly deduce anything from leaked footage.

Wait for direct feed HD trailers

 

[Hyunashi]

Very nice , but I hope no one think this will come out in 2014 ?
I mean unless they started development very early on, I doubt this will be out in 2014.

E3 is getting more interesting now

I really don't think it will be 2014.
2015 shaping up to be the year of Sony (if not current gen as a whole).

 

[Yaoibot]

Very nice , but I hope no one think this will come out in 2014 ?
I mean unless they started development very early on, I doubt this will be out in 2014.

E3 is getting more interesting now

Well the mega-mega-ton would be if its out for Christmas 2014. Game has been rumored to be in development for years, so its not beyond the realm of possibility.

 

[Cyrano]

Do you know how first party publishing works? It's exclusive because Sony is paying for the game's development and also assisting in its development. It has nothing to do with anyone praising it being an exclusive and more to do with the fact that this game would not exist without Sony funding it.

I sincerely doubt this given that Dark Souls and Dark Souls 2 were self-published in Japan. That said, neither of us have access to their financials so I'm not going to speculate on money they do or don't have.

Also Dark Souls 2 was not published on the Phyre Engine... that's interesting.

 

[xPhinehas]

Do you know how first party publishing works? It's exclusive because Sony is paying for the game's development and also assisting in its development. It has nothing to do with anyone praising it being an exclusive and more to do with the fact that this game would not exist without Sony funding it.

Optimization for a single system is also nice...

 

[evilromero]

When either this or MK10 release, then I'll buy a PS4. Finally some games that are pushing me into that next gen.