Glorious
Super Smash Bros. for 3DS & Wii U Thread 8: Put mii in, coach
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foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
Probably lol
Choppasmith
Member
Nice, for the better IMO. Weird that they seemed to keep DK's old grunts though.
Finally. Glad to hear since his new stance is perfect for it.
Superturkeys
Member
Don't know if anyone has posted this yet but Clash Tournaments uploaded a bunch of 1 v. 1 matches on youtube.
With almost everything FFA they seem pretty rare so I figured might as well let y'all know.
https://www.youtube.com/user/CLASHTournaments/videos
With almost everything FFA they seem pretty rare so I figured might as well let y'all know.
https://www.youtube.com/user/CLASHTournaments/videos
Speedwagon
Michelangelo painted the Sistine Chapel. Yabuki turned off voice chat in Mario Kart races. True artists of their time.
Word of advice: go early.
GiantBreadbug
Member
Hey, does anybody happen to have a link to Nintendo's E3 press kit? Any word on if there's been a batch of Smash screens released like with the direct?
If you've got a 3DS I'd recommend taking it. Lots of dudes had them at Wednesday's Smashfest in my area and we had a nearly full Mario Kart 7 lobby going in line
sorakirosaki
Member
I told you Pit, jump, jump THEN Up B.
im really hoping she has some of the uprising expressions
theprodigy
Member
FootyGAF is 2 weeks per thread the whole year, this is never getting on that level lol
balladofwindfishes
Member
It's hard to tell exactly, but I think Greninja has a different victory than Pikachu. I wish there was clearer audio of Greninja's and Pikachu's victories so I could compare better.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Leak #1 - A day before Nintendo Direct 2013
Leak #2 - A day before Smash Direct 2014
Leak #3 - Supposedly a day before E3 2014 but Sal said that he overlooked the email until next morning which he posted like couple of hours before Nintendo's Digital Event.
JediLink
Member
(Not sure if referring to me)
I told you Pit, jump, jump THEN Up B.
the best.
GiantBreadbug
Member
Also is anyone else bummed that Ali Hillis isn't voicing Palutena in Smash 4? I thought she did a perfect Palutena 
Also thanks Heath for compiling those leaks!
Also thanks Heath for compiling those leaks!
OricWindstar
Member
EDIT: Nevermind, I didn't realize my link had some uncool language in it.
Is an hour enough, or should I go even earlier? Got there a bit after it started on Wednesday and it was already packed.
I have a few books I need to read, so I think I'll be okay. I'll bring my 3DS anyway just in case.If you've got a 3DS I'd recommend taking it. Lots of dudes had them at Wednesday's Smashfest in my area and we had a nearly full Mario Kart 7 lobby going in line
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
I believe it was
Speedwagon
Michelangelo painted the Sistine Chapel. Yabuki turned off voice chat in Mario Kart races. True artists of their time.
An hour early is what I planned to do. So maybe an hour and 10 mins if you want to beat like-minded people.
SkullHydra
Member
#dedLots of great material being posted on the KYM page.
She's so freaking big!
Does anyone still have that image comparison of Link's face in this game? And possibly that one .gif of him clapping in the Victory screen? I'm trying to show a friend how crappy his face is, but can't find those images for the life of me.
She isn't Hillis in Smash 4? She sounded like Hillis to me, in the trailer at least.Also is anyone else bummed that Ali Hillis isn't voicing Palutena in Smash 4? I thought she did a perfect Palutena
Also thanks Heath for compiling those leaks!
You should go much earlier than an hour if you don't want to be waiting in line forever and possibly not even get a chance to play. I was two hours early on Wednesday and there were still many, many people ahead of me in line when I got there. Luckily I got to play, but not before waiting a very long time in line.An hour early is what I planned to do. So maybe an hour and 10 mins if you want to beat like-minded people.
GiantBreadbug
Member
That deeeefinitley didn't sound like Ali to me. I just rewatched it and it was just as jarring as when I saw it the first time.
Hmm it mentions DLC, cool. And so far it has been pretty damn accurate. I still won't believe the Chorus stuff until it happens though.
Otakumegane
Member
So as a non competitive player, how are the changes from Brawl to Melee?
Just faster with less air importance?
Just faster with less air importance?
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
I'm not good with terms but I could say that some of landing would make you feel like you are landing on the glues.
People, feel free to correct me out there.
Dimitri LH
Member
Revisiting that smashboard thread (the only interesting one at the moment....)
and saw this gif.
for people like foxuzumaki and others that are curious how it works.
and saw this gif.
for people like foxuzumaki and others that are curious how it works.
Speedwagon
Michelangelo painted the Sistine Chapel. Yabuki turned off voice chat in Mario Kart races. True artists of their time.
If you go there 3 hours early then you're already waiting forever. Wednesday was the first day; I'd imagine Best Buy will move it along faster after that experience.
Continued from part 1
Sheik!
For whatever reason, she was playable for the 3DS demo, but not the Wii U demo. She played damn near identical to her Brawl version, which on the surface, played damn near identical to her Melee version. It was hard to really get a feel for her and any changes from Brawl since the enemies in Smash Run aren't... traditional. I couldn't test if f tilt comboes into anything, or down throw, or if she got her slap back... basically anything involving move strength or combos. Jumping around and shit felt good. She has her wall cling. Her taunts were the same. I felt like I had a good amount of control over her up b trajectory, more like Melee than Brawl.
Her down b and side b were so weird. I'm obviously used to side b and down b being FORBIDDEN MOVES for a Sheik player, so it was weird to input those with Sheik on the screen. They are just strange moves too. It's not immediately apparent how exactly to apply them during a match (her other moves just seem... better). The grenade has a strange trajectory and comes out kinda slowly. I don't know how exactly I'd apply the down b either. Sorry for the shitty impressions, but that's just the vibe I got from the character after 5ish minutes of play against redeads and koopas. The new moves are weird (bad? slow?), and she feels pretty much like Brawl Sheik.
By the way, the Redeads look SO GOOD. Like the OOT art come to life in the game. AHH SO GOOD
Oh yeah, on the 3DS, we were dropped into Smash Run. Within 5 minutes, you have to run around the map and collect as many power ups as possible.
I was loving it, of course, since I was playing fucking Smash Bros on a 3DS, as SHEIK, and getting a feel for the controls and shit. For that reason, in a demo setting, the 5 minutes was nice. My major concern was how the controls would be, as I'd have to transfer over 15 years of playing Smash with an analog stick and real buttons to a shitty 3DS circle pad with little dinky buttons. Thank FUCK it didn't feel as bad as I was imagining. Everything felt pretty natural... that being said, Smash Run is basically baby's first platformer. It didn't exactly require the precision of, say, a 1 v 1 tournament match. I'm not sure how easy it would be to space bairs with Jigglypuff on a 3DS. While tilts were easy, I did notice that getting Smash attacks out required a bit of work. I pretty much had to, well, smash the cicle pad to the side to get an fsmash out. Way harder than any other 3DS I've ever played has required. I was beating that thing like it owed me money. I get the feeling I'll be trashing a lot of 3DS circle pads after Smash 3DS is released!
The enemies are really just decoration in this mode. I don't recall ever even being hit by anything very powerful. Lots of the enemies' moves are telegraphed. I'd up smash them and take their stuff. On to the next one... For 5 minutes.
Some of the enemies I noticed were:
SO awesome. Fanservice everywhere.
Not gonna lie though, 5 minutes felt like way too long for this mode. And that was my only my first play through. It got really, really repetitive. You don't even have to hit enemies to get power ups, either. A lot of them were just in the air waiting for you if you explored the map enough.
Then I went into a match. Time to test some stuff for real.... right? Nah. It was a sudden death match, where it was me vs 3 CPUs, all at 300% from the start. On Kid Icarus stage. 2 minute time match, I believe?
Maybe I'm just a skilled player, but I didn't understand the need for all of the stat upgrades I just collected during the 5 minute Smash Run. It was like facing the fighting polygon team. Dash attack. Dash attack. Dash attack... I mixed it up with shffl'd fairs and nairs because why not, but the execution of this entire mode just seems weird to me. I really felt like I could have literally stood still for 5 minutes during the Smash Run and decimated the "challenge" at the end of it. Though I'm assuming the final game will get more difficult, to the point where you're going to have to be powered the hell up to stand a chance against the jacked up CPUs? Hopefully.
The Wii U demo was still being played, so I was able to go through Smash Run again, this time as...
Greninja!
Greninja felt fucking awesome from the word go. And I'm picky as fuck when it comes to Smash characters, so that's saying a lot. All I really need is this one gif to show why:
mutha fuckin back air
mutha fuckin down air
sooooo goooooood
I was just bouncing on fools for the entire 5 minutes. That shit was sooooo satisfying. You bounce HELLA high if you connect with an enemy, so I was basically bouncing from one enemy to the next like Uncle Scrooge or some shit.
That multi hit back air, too. So good. Unlike Sheik and her new B moves, I went through Greninja's moveset one time and you fucking knew that character had moves that were gonna do some WORK.
Greninja's up b also feels like an incredible recovery tool. It felt so great to use, goes so far, and even with the 3DS circle pad I felt like I was in complete control when it came to aiming the trajectory for it.
Then, the match began. Sudden death mode, AGAIN! Fuck me. This time on Gerudo Valley, which is an awesome stage. I bounced on these dudes like it was no ones business. Just down air all day. I must have got like 14 KOs by the end of the 2 minutes. DOWN AIR TOO STRONG
Greninja's up smash also seems pretty good. Great range, pretty quick and looks cool as hell. Overall, I can see myself maining this character. Everything just felt right as soon as I gained control of him. Just like Sheik when I first played Melee <3
Unfortunately, in the end, Smash Run and fucking sudden death matches don't really give me as clear of a look at these characters as I would have liked. I love how Greninja plays, but against an actual human, I bet the down air isn't as great as I've been lead to believe! The back air is probably easily punished, same with up smash. But you know what? He's fun as fuck in Smash Run. I think when I get the actual game and play that mode one time to unlock stuff and never again, I'm gonna do so as Greninja!
Finally, it was my turn to play the Wii U version. I gave the 3DS back to the woman it was tethered to, and picked up a Wii U Pro Controller. The Nintendo rep said I would be playing a 1 v 1 with my friend that I came with. Two matches.
Oh man.
*TO BE CONTINUED*
Thanks to DaBoss for the GIFs
Sheik!
For whatever reason, she was playable for the 3DS demo, but not the Wii U demo. She played damn near identical to her Brawl version, which on the surface, played damn near identical to her Melee version. It was hard to really get a feel for her and any changes from Brawl since the enemies in Smash Run aren't... traditional. I couldn't test if f tilt comboes into anything, or down throw, or if she got her slap back... basically anything involving move strength or combos. Jumping around and shit felt good. She has her wall cling. Her taunts were the same. I felt like I had a good amount of control over her up b trajectory, more like Melee than Brawl.
Her down b and side b were so weird. I'm obviously used to side b and down b being FORBIDDEN MOVES for a Sheik player, so it was weird to input those with Sheik on the screen. They are just strange moves too. It's not immediately apparent how exactly to apply them during a match (her other moves just seem... better). The grenade has a strange trajectory and comes out kinda slowly. I don't know how exactly I'd apply the down b either. Sorry for the shitty impressions, but that's just the vibe I got from the character after 5ish minutes of play against redeads and koopas. The new moves are weird (bad? slow?), and she feels pretty much like Brawl Sheik.
By the way, the Redeads look SO GOOD. Like the OOT art come to life in the game. AHH SO GOOD
Oh yeah, on the 3DS, we were dropped into Smash Run. Within 5 minutes, you have to run around the map and collect as many power ups as possible.
I was loving it, of course, since I was playing fucking Smash Bros on a 3DS, as SHEIK, and getting a feel for the controls and shit. For that reason, in a demo setting, the 5 minutes was nice. My major concern was how the controls would be, as I'd have to transfer over 15 years of playing Smash with an analog stick and real buttons to a shitty 3DS circle pad with little dinky buttons. Thank FUCK it didn't feel as bad as I was imagining. Everything felt pretty natural... that being said, Smash Run is basically baby's first platformer. It didn't exactly require the precision of, say, a 1 v 1 tournament match. I'm not sure how easy it would be to space bairs with Jigglypuff on a 3DS. While tilts were easy, I did notice that getting Smash attacks out required a bit of work. I pretty much had to, well, smash the cicle pad to the side to get an fsmash out. Way harder than any other 3DS I've ever played has required. I was beating that thing like it owed me money. I get the feeling I'll be trashing a lot of 3DS circle pads after Smash 3DS is released!
The enemies are really just decoration in this mode. I don't recall ever even being hit by anything very powerful. Lots of the enemies' moves are telegraphed. I'd up smash them and take their stuff. On to the next one... For 5 minutes.
Some of the enemies I noticed were:
SO awesome. Fanservice everywhere.
Not gonna lie though, 5 minutes felt like way too long for this mode. And that was my only my first play through. It got really, really repetitive. You don't even have to hit enemies to get power ups, either. A lot of them were just in the air waiting for you if you explored the map enough.
Then I went into a match. Time to test some stuff for real.... right? Nah. It was a sudden death match, where it was me vs 3 CPUs, all at 300% from the start. On Kid Icarus stage. 2 minute time match, I believe?
Maybe I'm just a skilled player, but I didn't understand the need for all of the stat upgrades I just collected during the 5 minute Smash Run. It was like facing the fighting polygon team. Dash attack. Dash attack. Dash attack... I mixed it up with shffl'd fairs and nairs because why not, but the execution of this entire mode just seems weird to me. I really felt like I could have literally stood still for 5 minutes during the Smash Run and decimated the "challenge" at the end of it. Though I'm assuming the final game will get more difficult, to the point where you're going to have to be powered the hell up to stand a chance against the jacked up CPUs? Hopefully.
The Wii U demo was still being played, so I was able to go through Smash Run again, this time as...
Greninja!
Greninja felt fucking awesome from the word go. And I'm picky as fuck when it comes to Smash characters, so that's saying a lot. All I really need is this one gif to show why:
mutha fuckin back air
mutha fuckin down air
sooooo goooooood
I was just bouncing on fools for the entire 5 minutes. That shit was sooooo satisfying. You bounce HELLA high if you connect with an enemy, so I was basically bouncing from one enemy to the next like Uncle Scrooge or some shit.
That multi hit back air, too. So good. Unlike Sheik and her new B moves, I went through Greninja's moveset one time and you fucking knew that character had moves that were gonna do some WORK.
Greninja's up b also feels like an incredible recovery tool. It felt so great to use, goes so far, and even with the 3DS circle pad I felt like I was in complete control when it came to aiming the trajectory for it.
Then, the match began. Sudden death mode, AGAIN! Fuck me. This time on Gerudo Valley, which is an awesome stage. I bounced on these dudes like it was no ones business. Just down air all day. I must have got like 14 KOs by the end of the 2 minutes. DOWN AIR TOO STRONG
Greninja's up smash also seems pretty good. Great range, pretty quick and looks cool as hell. Overall, I can see myself maining this character. Everything just felt right as soon as I gained control of him. Just like Sheik when I first played Melee <3
Unfortunately, in the end, Smash Run and fucking sudden death matches don't really give me as clear of a look at these characters as I would have liked. I love how Greninja plays, but against an actual human, I bet the down air isn't as great as I've been lead to believe! The back air is probably easily punished, same with up smash. But you know what? He's fun as fuck in Smash Run. I think when I get the actual game and play that mode one time to unlock stuff and never again, I'm gonna do so as Greninja!
Finally, it was my turn to play the Wii U version. I gave the 3DS back to the woman it was tethered to, and picked up a Wii U Pro Controller. The Nintendo rep said I would be playing a 1 v 1 with my friend that I came with. Two matches.
Oh man.
*TO BE CONTINUED*
Thanks to DaBoss for the GIFs
Also is anyone else bummed that Ali Hillis isn't voicing Palutena in Smash 4? I thought she did a perfect Palutena
Is this confirmed? WRYYYYYYYYYYYYYY SHE'S SO GOOD IN UPRISING
Edges are much harder to grab and you have to be right next to them. Air dodges are directional but leave you unable to air dodge again. No tripping.
Jesus.
GiantBreadbug
Member
I mean it's not official but I know her voice and that wasn't it in the reveal trailer.
I actually really like it. Love it even.
Revisiting that smashboard thread (the only interesting one at the moment....)
and saw this gif.
for people like foxuzumaki and others that are curious how it works.
Wow that is like automatic.
and awesome write up Anthony. I think Greninja may be someone I try to put some time into so it's good to have some impressions on him.
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
Can someone give me a full overview of the Gematsu poo.
Heath's post towards the top of this page is a pretty good overview.
Blackstarhat
Member
why couldnt nintendo make this smash bros event a downloable demo/beta the nearest best buy from me is 2 hours away.
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
Revisiting that smashboard thread (the only interesting one at the moment....)
and saw this gif.
for people like foxuzumaki and others that are curious how it works.
Interesting I thought sakurai said the person who has the higher percentage gets higher priority?(if im remember this correctly) or is it not implemented correctly yet
sorakirosaki
Member
i think he meant when coming back on the ledge? highest percentage will get priority i think
C.Olimar788
Member
Because the demo is unstable as heck. It's one thing to put it up at E3 where it's understood that everything is early, and it's still fairly reasonable to put it up temporarily at select areas where, again, there is that understanding, but to put out an unstable demo to the general public would be insanely bad PR.
It's possible we'll get some kinda downloadable demo closer to release, once the game's effectively finalized, but putting out the demo in its current state would be bad.
Even if, as a Smash player, I would pay so much money to get it.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
I added the time of messages being posted.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=116476214&postcount=18424
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
There's basically no reason to grab ledge anymore. Edge hogging is impossible unless the character is in a fall state. Snapping to the ledge/auto sweet spot is still in the game too.
As if we didn't live long enough in Brawl...
I dunno, I'd wait till the jury's out. I gave it another listen and it sounded close enough to me, and of course Pit and Viridi sounded the same.
iirc, the amount of time you spend in the air before grabbing the ledge is also a factor. I'm trying to recall that cryptic update lol.