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Official Destiny Alpha Withdrawal Thread
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You're probably right and I hope you are for the sake of helmet toggle. I'm not completely caught up on what we know of the lore yet.
There's been a few references to the Traveler terraforming other planets for/with humanity during the Golden Age. In the E3 trailer you see astronauts from earth approaching the Traveler (presumably for the first time) either on the moon or somewhere else in the solar system, and the Traveler starts to make it rain because it's just that damn cool.
As for whether that makes the non-Earth locations suitable for a Guardian to visit without a helmet or not, I guess we'll find out. Bungie could simply say most of them are now toxic without the Traveler actively doing something, or they weren't a self sustaining environment yet etc. None of that explains the Exo helmet thing as several of you have mentioned, but they could simply go the cyborg route and say the Exo's have biological organs or else say the helmets are crucial interface devices for battle... which is an answer that obviously raises a few more questions. Or Bungie could simply ignore the issue I guess, but it's fun to wonder about.
I said this way back at the reveal and I've repeated it since - the lore and setting of this game are incredibly interesting to me.
Jest Chillin
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The Traveler did indeed either terraform or gave Humanity the ability to terraform other planets. Off the top of my head one of the trailers specifically mentions that Mercury was turned into a green garden-like planet.
I experienced this too. My first Strike on Brave I managed to stay alive the whole time and I didn't complete this bounty, so I assumed a glitch.
There's been a few references to the Traveler terraforming other planets for/with humanity during the Golden Age. In the E3 trailer you see astronauts from earth approaching the Traveler (presumably for the first time) either on the moon or somewhere else in the solar system, and the Traveler starts to make it rain because it's just that damn cool.
As for whether that makes the non-Earth locations suitable for a Guardian to visit without a helmet or not, I guess we'll find out. Bungie could simply say most of them are now toxic without the Traveler actively doing something, or they weren't a self sustaining environment yet etc. None of that explains the Exo helmet thing as several of you have mentioned, but they could simply go the cyborg route and say the Exo's have biological organs or else say the helmets are crucial interface devices for battle... which is an answer that obviously raises a few more questions. Or Bungie could simply ignore the issue I guess, but it's fun to wonder about.
I said this way back at the reveal and I've repeated it since - the lore and setting of this game are incredibly interesting to me.
I think you are looking for a more complicated answer where there might be none. The Exo probably needs head protection like everyone else when facing enemies of various kinds. I think it's as simple as that.
And it seems like the Traveler first appeared Mercury, as seen in the latest trailer.
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Brahs in your fireteam died, voiding it.
Whaaat, wow apparently I didn't read the description properly. I am not going to be accepting that bounty again in the full game!
Shouldn't be that bad with a hand picked fire-team. It's the lack of communication that made that one so hard...
king grimlock
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also in the trailer with the astronauts when they find the traveler its starts raining on mars
tokyostomp
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I believe Neogaf members should get early access to the beta, lol
Gherid__lacksGPS
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What if the trilogy arch wraps up and the Traveler is revealed to be the real antagonist, using souls/deceased - Guardians - as the conduit to take over the solar system? All the "baddeis" were actually sacrificing themselves to halt it? Like a Donnie Darko / wolf in sheeps clothing swerve?
Orthogonal
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My comment may have been a bit harsh, but now you're being apologetic and rationalizing its shortcomings as a good thing. It being simple shouldn't excuse its lack of options especially when it's a loot game with tons of armor and weapon customization. Although, I will say that given my other point about not seeing your toons face very often, they seem to be putting the right emphasis on the gear.
The Librarian
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Apologizing and rationalizing? I was perfectly fine with the character creator.
LookAtMeGo
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I don't think sony has sent out the beta codes yet. You should get one in your email closer to the beta release.
Edit: it looks like you will just get a notification that will allow you to download it, you won't actually need a code. Thx jest chillin.
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GAF it up, we'll be able to do it np with caution, sexiness and communication xD
Jest Chillin
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Someone posted about PSN Pre-orders earlier in the thread, or it could've been one of the other threads. There won't be any emails with the beta codes for those customers. When it comes time for the beta, Sony will send a notification through PSN that will allow you to download it.
They used this system during the Alpha as well.
LookAtMeGo
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Oh.. i got an email from sony with my alpha code inside it that i redeemed in the store. I thought it would be the same for the beta.
Jest Chillin
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That's interesting. I hadn't heard that. You didn't get a Playstation Notification on the Friday of the Alpha weekend?
Edit: Found the post.
LookAtMeGo
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VisceralBowl
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That is misleading. The guy has the same voice as now in this trailer from E3 2013. This trailer also disappeared from the official channel as far as a I can tell.
That one you linked just has crappy narration.
The trailer I linked is still on their channel and the voice definitely seems different there. Maybe it's just the crap narration throwing me off, maybe it's just a different character in the same clothing, but it seems to me that that was the character's voice at an earlier stage of the game.
VisceralBowl
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I found the version of the E3 trailer I linked on the official channel, finally.
It is at the end of the 2013 gameplay video.
I don't see why you would release two similar trailers with two different version of the same character's voice at the same time. But hey, this game's marketing has been pretty terrible so who knows!
Has this been addressed by anyone in here or Bungie?
I plan to play this game a ton with a co-op buddy of mine. However, he and I have crazy schedules. Sometimes he can play a lot more than I can so he'd out level me.
In this scenario how does MP matchmaking pan out? Say he's level 20 and I'm level 10...will the MP stuff scale down to 10 for him, or up for 20 with me? How does the story/strike stuff balance out ?
I plan to play this game a ton with a co-op buddy of mine. However, he and I have crazy schedules. Sometimes he can play a lot more than I can so he'd out level me.
In this scenario how does MP matchmaking pan out? Say he's level 20 and I'm level 10...will the MP stuff scale down to 10 for him, or up for 20 with me? How does the story/strike stuff balance out ?
Well, I won't disagree that the marketing for this game hasn't been doing the game justice. Also, note that they have removed the overdone filter from that Awoken guy's voice in the latest E3 trailer vs. the one you linked; http://youtu.be/LIxxsw7TNd4?t=6m26s. Nice improvement, I say. Unless that the Awoken just talk like that on Earth for some reason. That would be silly.
Orthogonal
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That is fine if you like it. The context of my original comment was the discussion that it was missing simple features like being able to rotate around when viewing hair styles. The creator also has scant few face, hair choices etc. There could be more options without increasing complexity. Your comment brought up complexity, but I don't think many are arguing for that just some more choices.
VisceralBowl
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I noticed that also. Their voices sound so soft now.
SenjutsuSage
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That feeling right there is among my absolute favorite things about games that I enjoy. The feeling that a whole other more in depth story is being told based on all your various exploits. The world around you feels like it's helping to tell a story all on its own. That's pretty much the kind of thing I was looking to hear, and of course I already kind of like what I see from the gameplay. It reminds me of a first person Mass Effect that probably feels and controls like a Halo title movement wise.
What if the trilogy arch wraps up and the Traveler is revealed to be the real antagonist, using souls/deceased - Guardians - as the conduit to take over the solar system? All the "baddeis" were actually sacrificing themselves to halt it? Like a Donnie Darko / wolf in sheeps clothing swerve?
That's precisely what's going on. Everyone is being manipulated is my thought. That thing isn't "protecting" us, so much as we're protecting it and buying it time. I think humanity is being used. Nothing that ominous looking usually turns out to be good.
Simo
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Not 100% on the answer and I only played a little of the Crucible but how I understood it everything balances out in the Crucible. Regardless of level or of if you have, say a AR that does 106 damage, everything gets reset as in an AR does the same damage expected of an AR that others would have just like Rocket Launchers are the same and can kill in one shot etc.
I think thats it anyway or at least thats how it seemed to me when I played but then I remembered there was armor you could get for doing the Crucible so maybe your leveled gear does factor?
What if the trilogy arch wraps up and the Traveler is revealed to be the real antagonist, using souls/deceased - Guardians - as the conduit to take over the solar system? All the "baddeis" were actually sacrificing themselves to halt it? Like a Donnie Darko / wolf in sheeps clothing swerve?
I'm getting exactly that sense from the tone of the game. The lines said by the ghost often use "we," referring to the playable races and the Traveler as a team, and highly demonize the alien races without making much of an attempt to understand them or their motivations.
Is this Mercury?
Oh yeah, I forgot I did a couple of those.
It definitely shares that sense of exploration and awe that Mass Effect has.
Jest Chillin
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I don't believe they have officially stated anything but they said the reason for relatively quick leveling process was so that players who were behind their friends wouldn't feel like they had to play for weeks and weeks to catch up.
So it would seem like the higher level player would indeed be stronger in PvE since Crucible somewhat regulates everyone to an equal level.
Simo
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Where and how did the Fallen, Cabal, Hive etc come from and to even be in our solar system? There's all the talk of finding the Traveler, bringing in the "Golden Age" and then the Darkness showing up but then these other races show up and stake their claim too.
Are they actually the Darkness or did they randomly just come along for the ride?
The Lamonster
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Why couldn't you guys have just named the Destiny group "NeoGAF"
It wasn't hard for the Diablo clan to get the site's name right...
It wasn't hard for the Diablo clan to get the site's name right...
Shyakugaun
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Did anyone get the joy of experiencing this Shotgun in the Alpha ? Once i found it i couldn't put it down lol
What if the trilogy arch wraps up and the Traveler is revealed to be the real antagonist, using souls/deceased - Guardians - as the conduit to take over the solar system? All the "baddeis" were actually sacrificing themselves to halt it? Like a Donnie Darko / wolf in sheeps clothing swerve?
Hey, y'all stealing my theories!
Yep, that's Mercury.
Well, Mercury wasn't on the map in the E3 video, nor was there an outline for it on the map in the Alpha. Cut content? DLC? Unlocked later on?
Did anyone get the joy of experiencing this Shotgun in the Alpha ? Once i found it i couldn't put it down lol
That's a fusion rifle.
Well that was awkward.
Well, Mercury wasn't on the map in the E3 video, nor was there an outline for it on the map in the Alpha. Cut content? DLC? Unlocked later on?
I guess it's unlocked later on. In the latest trailer you can see the Traveler on Mercury when the camera zooms out. The camera then focuses on the planets and moons that we have seen on recent screenshots (like the one you just posted).
Well, Mercury wasn't on the map in the E3 video, nor was there an outline for it on the map in the Alpha. Cut content? DLC? Unlocked later on?
I adore the looks of the maps in this game. So clean, classy, and just plain beautiful.
Perfect Cha0s
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Presumably unlocked later on, or maybe DLC.Well, Mercury wasn't on the map in the E3 video, nor was there an outline for it on the map in the Alpha. Cut content? DLC? Unlocked later on?
The overall UI design in the Alpha was truly outstanding. Far and away the nicest looking and working UI I have used in recent games. Bungie seems to know that less = more when it comes to UI. All around very intuitive and beautifully crafted.
Shyakugaun
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Lol i thought that was a plasma shotgun XD