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[Alo81]

Sorry for the large image sizes.

Took Alo81's SweetFX 1.4 settings and lowered the resolution:

#define CRTResolutionX 360 //[1 to 2048] Original input width of the game (ie. 320)
#define CRTResolutionY 240 //[1 to 2048] Original input height of the game (ie. 240)

Unfortunately, some of the colors are not displayed correctly, and it looks terrible in motion.

The game is actually rendered at a high resolution, which allows for the smooth parallax scrolling. This causes an odd shimmering effect when using SweetFX.

Can anyone find a fix?

Yep. I used the actual screen resolution so that there wouldn't be any blur (so keep the hard edged pixels) and to keep the scrolling smoooth. Also keeping colors accurate was quite an affair.

You're using 360x240 which is why it looks so crazy in motion, it doesn't evenly go into 1920x1080.

480x270 has MUCH better results, though those aren't exactly perfect either. It will never be as perfectly smooth as actual 1080p, but I find 480x270 still looks pretty great.

If people would prefer the lower res look with proper scanlines, here's a SweetFx config for that. It's also corrected for brightness so the colors stay accurate to the original image.

Here are two examples, showing what I mean with the proper resolution. Mine's at 480x270, and the one that's emulating yours is 360x240. Because I was recording at 1080p/60 there were some frame drops, so ignore any inconsistent hitches. There aren't many anyhow. Focus on the jitter of the actual objects shapes and motion.

You must view the video in fullscreen on a 1080p display in order for it to appear correctly.

480x270

http://a.pomf.se/nsnypj.webm

360x240

http://a.pomf.se/zfuxgd.webm

 

[Ysiadmihi]

Kind of hope they get rid of that short animation of Shovel Knight sliding a bit when you change directions. It's not a huge deal, but he can't jump during it and it's really annoying when it catches you off guard. Seems kind of pointless since you can immediately change your direction with a jump anyway.

 

[Wreck-It Ralph]

Yeah the rainbow platform part. It's just fucking awful.

This is the first section in the game that just feels unfair.

Yes, that part pissed me off so much. Those blue propeller guys are so unfair.

 

[Laconic]

It's the one I've played the least, and has kinda slippery controls compared to the rest of the series, maybe that's why.

I hear some people say 3 is hard and I just don't see it. Mind you, I haven't played 8 and only part of 7 (which I hear the Wily Stages are balls hard), but I generally think of the series as being fairly easy from 3 until 9. I still think of 9 as the best of the classic games, 2 isn't exactly overrated but it's probably the least balanced. Everyone hates 4 because it's so easy but it was probably the most balanced of all of them, so it's one of my favorites.

Huh. Someone else who thinks Mega Man 3 was no more difficult than 2. Nice to know I have company.

 

[Watch Da Birdie]

This made Entertainment Weekly's "Top Ten" list in the new issue...

Oddly enough they claim it's one of the reasons to suddenly want a Wii U alongside Mario Kart 8, even though it's multiplat.

 

[MagnaderAlpha]

You can have an informed opinion, an objective analysis with one's own conclusions based on that analysis, such as in "the opinion of the court" based on interpretation of the law or a medical opinion based on medical training, knowledge, and intuition. Despite its use on message boards, the term "opinion" does not automatically mean completely subjective and unsupportable personal beliefs on a subject.

You can also have subjective opinions on a subject with one person's personal thoughts based less on analysis and more on internal biases and feelings, unsupported by example or fact.

Yes, subjective opinion is a term:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subjective_logic#Subjective_opinions

I think medical opinion or court opinion's not truly 100% reflective of the matter of fact. How many times have doctors misdiagnosed patients based on their medical opinions(the reason why you are encouraged to seek more than one doctor's opinion). Sure, they are basing their opinion on their own medical training, but even then it's really their interpretation of what they were taught and how they choose to utilize those skills they've learned.

Court's opinion is only as valid as the law and evidence presented dictates it to be. If the law changes, or other evidence is brought forth nullifying a conviction(a convicted criminal is proven to be innocent, despite being judged by a jury of his or her peers), that becomes the new standing.

 

[Laconic]

It's not well thought out or articulated. Typing in full sentences does not make something true or reasonable. Most of it is unsupported subjective opinion and some of it is untrue.

His tone was reasonable. You've seen the other end of that spectrum in here, I am sure. What part is untrue? His opinions were based on the feelings impressed upon him, while playing the game, so I am not taking them as if they were canonical, empirically verifiable fact. I am just looking for input, as I've yet to get home and download it.

 

[Hale-XF11]

Yes, that part pissed me off so much. Those blue propeller guys are so unfair.

Just shovel the ice sculpture thingies into them for the insta-kill.

 

[Letep]

I'm enjoying the game so far, but does Shovel Knight ever move faster?

 

[Toxi]

I'm enjoying the game so far, but does Shovel Knight ever move faster?

Propeller Dagger makes you zoom across the screen.

Other than that, no.

 

[jblank83]

What part is untrue?

Characterizing the level design as pointless trinkets every other room whose sole purpose is to introduce artificial difficult to obtain meaningless gems. It's a flawed illustration at best, a disingenuous one at worst.

etc

As I stated, I don't personally care to continue the discussion. It's a point that has no relevance to the post in question or the topic at hand.

I totally disagreed with every aspect of what that dude had to say, but man, it's so nice to see calm, non-hyperbolic, actually thought through and well-articulated dissent in a game OT.

We can disagree on what constitutes non-hyperbolic. However articulate means speaking coherently. This post contained rambling, almost incomprehensible sentences such as "It feels like it's constantly nodding and prodding with a lewd expression on its face one I guess is supposed to assume oneself," and "Instead of applying the kind of thinking people used to overcome hardware constraints with modern sensibilities onto current concerns." I'd call that poorly articulated.

I greatly enjoyed the game. My personal and professional opinion is that it is a very good game, 8-bit or not. I acknowledge it has design choices that could be debated, some weaknesses or flaws, as the individual might see them. This post was like reading a page full of hallucinatory fuck, though. As the poster himself said, his thoughts were still jumbled, and it shows.

The post has some thoughts worth exploring. His analogies, metaphors, and imagery were entertaining. But it's a half-baked critique. Maybe he'll come back and post again after he gives it some more time and thought.

 

[Toxi]

For those concerned about the game's speed, here's a relicless run of Explodatorium.

 

[drotahorror]

Really nice patch for PC today. Can press F4 to sync feats to for steam achievements incase you had issues with achievements popping up.

 

[BY2K]

So it's possible to get Spectre Knight outside of his arena.

 

[jblank83]

So it's possible to get Spectre Knight outside of his arena.

That's very cool

 

[Aesthet1c]

Ugh.

This game was so good, and then it goes to complete shit in the last two levels.

I don't even want to play the rest of it because this Tower Ascent level is just fucking awful.

I'm having the same problem. It gets so frustratingly difficult in those last two levels.

Still a great game, and I'm glad I bought it, but I'm not sure I can finish this...

 

[yGray]

How does this game play on a keyboard? Don't have a bluetooth usb dongle for my dualshock 3 yet.

 

[Wreck-It Ralph]

For those concerned about the game's speed, here's a relicless run of Explodatorium.

From that guy's videos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6leWqHcmDU

lol

 

[Toxi]

So it's possible to get Spectre Knight outside of his arena.

I gotta try this. I wonder if it's possible to do with the other bosses.

I once had a weird Specter Knight glitch where he got stuck in a wall during the last supper. Poor guy just let me finish him off. The screen also didn't black-out before that happened, so I wonder if that's related.

 

[Chuckpebble]

How does this game play on a keyboard? Don't have a bluetooth usb dongle for my dualshock 3 yet.

It defaults to WASD movement with JK as attack and jump respectively. That's actually my go-to NES layout for emulators. Beat the first boss that way but I wouldn't recommend it.

 

[yGray]

It defaults to WASD movement with JK as attack and jump respectively. That's actually my go-to NES layout for emulators. Beat the first boss that way but I wouldn't recommend it.

what do you play with?

 

[Marjar]

Well I beat Tower Ascent. Ugh. Easily my least favorite level in the game. At least the boss rush was cool.

Now the last level starts with more bullshit. Blegh. It's like they deliberately made the last three levels as annoying as possible.

 

[Toxi]

Well I beat Tower Ascent. Ugh. Easily my least favorite level in the game. At least the boss rush was cool.

Now the last level starts with more bullshit. Blegh. It's like they deliberately made the last three levels as annoying as possible.

If it helps, the last level is incredibly short.

 

[Marjar]

If it helps, the last level is incredibly short.

Yeah I noticed that.

It just really irks me that the last three levels contain pretty much every type of hazard I absolutely despise in 2D platformers.

 

[Ultimadrago]

It's definitely not that bad. It helps to just slow down. Everything can be done methodically, there's nothing that requires incredibly quick reflexes.

Propeller Knight's Stage is 100 times more difficult that all three Tower levels.

What a relief. I just beat Propeller Knight's stage and the journey to the last checkpoint was...unpleasant.

 

[xBladeM6x]

Just beat the game.

Spoiler

Loved the ending.

 

[Kid Ska]

So it's possible to get Spectre Knight outside of his arena.

This would be really easy with the

Spoiler

super jump cheat.

 

[Mesoian]

What a relief. I just beat Propeller Knight's stage and the journey to the last checkpoint was...unpleasant.

Those green guys with the propellers are the worst enemies in the game.

They are the WORST.

So much rage.

SO MUCH!

 

[Stone Ocean]

Those green guys with the propellers are the worst enemies in the game.

They are the WORST.

So much rage.

SO MUCH!

Not as bad as those explosive rats.

Seriously fuck those things.

 

[Toxi]

y'all are crazy, the most annoying enemies are the anchor tossing purple knights.

 

[jblank83]

Those green guys with the propellers are the worst enemies in the game.

They are one of the few things in Shovel Knight I think blatantly unfair. There are a couple of spots where they are outright trollish, knocking the player into death pits as soon as they appear. Their random movement patterns make several areas very difficult.

 

[Ysiadmihi]

They are one of the few things in Shovel Knight I think blatantly unfair. There are a couple of spots where they are outright trollish, knocking the player into death pits as soon as they appear. Their random movement patterns make several areas very difficult.

I don't really think they're unfair. They're pretty easy to deal with as long as you're patient.

Ironically, the one who gave me the worst time is the one who suspiciously assists you in crossing that one gap. Couldn't get a feel on when it was actually elevating me.

 

[Deleted member 125677]

Just beat the game.

Spoiler

Loved the ending.

I'm glad you enjoyed it, and played through to the end

 

[jblank83]

I don't really think they're unfair. They're pretty easy to deal with as long as you're patient.

What's unfair is not their existence but their placement, resulting in unavoidable deaths depending on the approach, when first approaching them blindly. After knowing where they are it is usually not difficult.

The question of sometimes having to wait a long time to deal with them is another matter.

 

[Mesoian]

What's unfair is not their existence but their placement, resulting in unavoidable deaths when first approaching them blindly. After knowing where they are it is usually not difficult.

The question of sometimes having to wait a long time to deal with them is another matter.

I just use anchors on them. Generally works.

 

[Morfeo]

I am very close to just buying the PC-version of this now. Nintendo is really screwing up by not getting it out in Europe at the same time as NA imo

 

[jblank83]

I just use anchors on them. Generally works.

Generally. There are times when, due to their movement patterns, they will annoyingly stay out of reach for too long.

My total deaths to them probably amount to something like 5 or 6. However I still consider some of their placements less than wonderful.

 

[sfried]

I am very close to just buying the PC-version of this now. Nintendo is really screwing up by not getting it out in Europe at the same time as NA imo

Err, how is this Nintendo's fault again? Yatch Club specifically mentioned the needed time to localize it in different languages and PEGI approval.

 

[jblank83]

I am very close to just buying the PC-version of this now. Nintendo is really screwing up by not getting it out in Europe at the same time as NA imo

It doesn't matter where you get it, imo. They're all the same game. They all play the same.

I will say the 3d on 3DS is pretty good, though.

 

[Morfeo]

Err, how is this Nintendo's fault again? Yatch Club specifically mentioned the needed time to localize it in different languages and PEGI approval.

Its not Nintendos fault, but if they want me to buy the games on their plattforms, they should try to avoid situations like these - even when its thirdparty games. They are pushing this as one of their most important indie-titles on E3, Japan Expo etc. Should have secured that stuff like that was done already.

It doesn't matter where you get it, imo. They're all the same game. They all play the same.

I will say the 3d on 3DS is pretty good, though.

Of course, but I prefer to have it on my Wii U which is my favored plattform. However, the wait is killing me

 

[RecursiveFault]

Its not Nintendos fault, but if they want me to buy the games on their plattforms, they should try to avoid situations like these - even when its thirdparty games.

It's PEGI ratings. That's not anything Nintendo can influence.

 

[Morfeo]

It's PEGI ratings. That's not anything Nintendo can influence.

Is that really the issue? The game is out on steam in Europe - doesnt that also adhere to the PEGI rating?

 

[tim_pkmn89]

Steam doesn't require ratings

And Yacht Club said they're still working on translations

 

[Dr. Kaos]

Holy shit this game is amazing! I wish I had backed the kickstarter.

So much love and awesomeness in this thing. I am shocked, even after ready the glowing reviews, I am shocked!

Spoiler

My one regret is the use of NES-like graphics instead of SNES-like graphics.

Let's hope the sequel is named Super Shovel Knight

 

[Deleted member 125677]

Is that really the issue? The game is out on steam in Europe - doesnt that also adhere to the PEGI rating?

It's not. pEGI is in order.

It's translation reqs.

Just buy a steam copy on humble store for $15 while you wait like I did Replay on Wii U or 3DS later

 

[Marjar]

Welp I beat it.

The last three levels/final boss are probably the worst parts in the game and soured my experience a bit, but overall really great game. Beat it with 59 total deaths.

Definitely one of my favorite indie games now.

 

[Morfeo]

Steam doesn't require ratings

And Yacht Club said they're still working on translations

Is it really true that Steam doesnt require ratings?

It's not. pEGI is in order.

It's translation reqs.

Just buy a steam copy on humble store for $15 while you wait like I did Replay on Wii U or 3DS later

About the translation issues, this is what Nintendo should have helped them with. I might buy from humble - but then I wont rebuy it on Wii U/3DS - and Nintendo looses a sale. Pretty short-sighted imo.

 

[jblank83]

The last three levels/final boss are probably the worst parts in the game and soured my experience a bit

I found Propeller Knight's stage much more frustrating. You're the second person I've seen complain about the last stages. What difficulty did you have? Were you breaking checkpoints?

 

[sfried]

About the translation issues, this is what Nintendo should have helped them with. I might buy from humble - but then I wont rebuy it on Wii U/3DS - and Nintendo looses a sale. Pretty short-sighted imo.

Why the hell is it Nintendo's fault? It was Yacht Club who didn't work out the kinks by making sure translation was alreay rady, knowing fully well how Kickstarter works and how they could be receiving funding from all over the world.

In Nintendo helped with localization, then they would end up publishing it, and effectively making it a 2nd party title. (Then people will bitch and moan about how it's not out on PSN or XBLA...)

 

[Andrew.]

Yeah, in hindsight I found that last section of Propeller Knights stage more frustrating than any of the final stages. That whole part with the wind blowing horizontally and vertically was severely rage inducing for me and man they just threw that curveball out of nowhere. Even the checkpoint from that part until the boss was pretty damn long.