2014 FIFA World Cup |OT7| Krul luck for Costa Rica after masterstroke from van Gaal

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jboldiga said:
Sorry I missed what Krul did that was unsportsmanlike. Can someone fill me in?
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Nothing, just people who apparently never saw PKs before. Some people say that staring down a PK taker should be a red card. Hilarious, I'm pretty sure they've never even watched football.

There's some interesting hate directed towards the Netherlands going on across the interwebs. A toxic mix of jealous Belgians, salty Chileans and Concacafers and everyone in England who doesn't support ManU. I'm having a field day reading it all. So far the only country who's supporters have been generally respectful and positive is Germany. Fancy that.
 
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The Omega Man said:
Maybe we get a referee that's immune to diving cunts and card any drama queen that attempts to get a free kick/penalty out of it.
That would be a nightmare scenario for Holland.
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Opportunities gained as a result of diving by the Netherlands: 0

Goals scored against the Netherlands as a result of diving: 1

Brb, need change of pants.
 
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spekkeh said:
Nothing, just people who apparently never saw PKs before. Some people say that staring down a PK taker should be a red card. Hilarious, I'm pretty sure they've never even watched football.

There's some interesting hate directed towards the Netherlands going on across the interwebs. A toxic mix of jealous Belgians, salty Chileans and Concacafers and everyone in England who doesn't support ManU. I'm having a field day reading it all. So far the only country who's supporters have been generally respectful and positive is Germany. Fancy that.
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They have a reputation of playing dirty which in combination with a forward who seems to dive everytime he gets touched creates a team that is hard to cheer for. It's not as much interesting hate as it is self explanatory hate.
 
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When a game went to PKs I'd trash talk the takers before a kick. I'd grab the ball, tell them the ball was mine, place it back down, and stare at them. I'd tell them the surface area of a goal was 896ft and if they missed, they'd look really stupid.

It was a good way to distract myself from my own thoughts and to gain a bit of confidence before I had to guess.
 
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Seeds said:
They have a reputation of playing dirty which in combination with a forward who seems to dive everytime he gets touched creates a team that is hard to cheer for.
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Thank you. It's not salt. It's simply hard to cheer for a team boasting both Jong and Robben. Out of the final 4 they are obviously the team I'm rooting for least now that Neymar is out.
 
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spekkeh

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Seeds said:
They have a reputation of playing dirty which in combination with a forward who seems to dive everytime he gets touched creates a team that is hard to cheer for. It's not as much interesting hate as it is self explanatory hate.
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That reputation is interesting too, seeing as it's seemingly based off a single match.
 
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Seeds said:
They have a reputation of playing dirty which in combination with a forward who seems to dive everytime he gets touched creates a team that is hard to cheer for. It's not as much interesting hate as it is self explanatory hate.
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What the fuck? We have a reputation of playing dirty?

is this fucking bizarro world? Get these people out of here please. They NEVER watch football. This is just the perfect example of pure ignorance.
 
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We played 2 dirty games before, 2006 against Portugal and the 2010 final. People tend to remember the latter. Which is fine.

Seeds said:
They have a reputation of playing dirty which in combination with a forward who seems to dive everytime he gets touched creates a team that is hard to cheer for. It's not as much interesting hate as it is self explanatory hate.
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Which is why we should continue to play dirty, then.

We were way too sportsmanlike for over 30 years, but the result was only one final in 1988. Right now we're close to a consecutive world cup final. We may not win, but we were never closer since the 70's had passed.

If a more 'dirty' tactic works out better, hate the sport. But keep in mind, we've gotten 2 pens against because of diving and bullshit. We've still got to receive a penalty because of diving. Which means no contact, no foul. Which means Marquez was a fool.
 
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Dion Blaster said:
Thank you. It's not salt. It's simply hard to cheer for a team boasting both Jong and Robben. Out of the final 4 they are obviously the team I'm rooting for least now that Neymar is out.
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Didn't want to name any players but those were the guys I had in mind.
 
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spekkeh said:
That reputation is interesting too, seeing as it's seemingly based off a single match.
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That single match was the World Cup final...not the best time for the players to embarrass themselves like that (Spain too with all their diving).

Edit: full disclosure I think it would be cool if holland wins, I would like a new team to hoist the cup and most of their players are fine. Even Robben was one if my favorites to watch before diving like crazy. I just like the other 3 teams more.
 
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SkylineRKR said:
Which is why we should continue to play dirty, then.

We were way too sportsmanlike for over 30 years, but the result was only one final in 1988. Right now we're close to a consecutive world cup final. We may not win, but we were never closer since the 70's had passed.

If a more 'dirty' tactic works out better, hate the sport.
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Thing is, we're not even playing dirty this world cup. We've pretty much outclassed everyone in the group stage, then against Mexico they were better one half and we were better the other half. And then against Costa Rica we won fair and square.

Just because Robben went down once (which was bound to happen sooner or later, because Mexico was defending like Kamikaze pilots in the box) and people can't get over it we are playing "dirty" and we're "flopping our way through the tournament". It's pretty laughable to be honest.
 
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confuziz said:
What the fuck? We have a reputation of playing dirty?

is this fucking bizarro world? Get these people out of here please. They NEVER watch football. This is just the perfect example of pure ignorance.
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You haven't paid much attention the past decade or so I guess.
They improved a lot this WC, but before that the NED team was a bunch of butchers.
 
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Raist said:
You haven't paid much attention the past decade or so I guess.
They improved a lot this WC, but before that the NED team was a bunch of butchers.
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When exactly? Every match before the 2010 WC final was boring, but rather fair.

Euro 2008, most attacking side of that tournament, shat on the wc finalists of 2006. Offday cost us the quarter final but Russia wasn't butchered.

World Cup 2006, one match against Portugal which was ridiculous but it was the exact same situation as Colombia - Brazil with an incompetent ref.

Dion Blaster said:
That single match was the World Cup final...not the best time for the players to embarrass themselves like that (Spain too with all their diving).

Edit: full disclosure I think it would be cool if holland wins, I would like a new team to hoist the cup and most of their players are fine. Even Robben was one if my favorites to watch before diving like crazy.
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Thats strange as Robben truly dived a lot early in his career. Guus Hiddink punished him for that, and I think Chelsea did so too.
 
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Dunno why you guys give a fuck what people think about your team.

People will be salty no matter what.

The diving complaints are pretty funny when they're only directed at one team or individuals. It's one of the main reasons this sport is dismissed in north america, where few people actually see it's true beauty.
 
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LNBL said:
Nope it would not be actually
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Raven Prime said:
This diving myth is really getting out of hand. I'm glad the referee yesterday would have none of it.
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confuziz said:
That would be the greatest thing ever. We have had more against us than in favor of us.
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I am glad we're all on the same page, Argentina is my team but any Argentinian puts on an act I want him carded, looking forward to
our match Dutchies
 
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Buba Big Guns said:
Dunno why you guys give a fuck what people think about your team.

People will be salty no matter what.

The diving complaints are pretty funny when they're only directed at one team or individuals. It's one of the main reasons this sport is dismissed in north america, where few people actually see it's true beauty.
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Yep, people will bitch no matter what. I just shrug and laugh at it.
 
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I love how the press calls Krul's actions 'unsportsmanlike'. The way CR played was the most unsportsmanlike play style I have ever seen in my life.
 
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Rivyn said:
There is always a player in the World Cup who can not behave himself.

It is not like Figo or Materazzi were any different.

Suddenly it has become popular to dish it out on The Netherlands the further we get in tournaments.
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Haha, people are just jealous. Not us English though. We've won more world cups than you!!
 
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confuziz said:
What the fuck? We have a reputation of playing dirty?

is this fucking bizarro world? Get these people out of here please. They NEVER watch football. This is just the perfect example of pure ignorance.
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Common phenomenon at worldcups where people who support teams that are out of the worldcup get incredibly salty and try to rub people the wrong way with their loser mentality.
Ignore them and listen to the words of the Wise Sage Kuijt:

http://a.pomf.se/kysigw.webm
 
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AquaMotley said:
Common phenomenon at worldcups where people who support teams that are out of the worldcup get incredibly salty and try to rub people the wrong way with their loser mentality.
Ignore them and listen to the words of the Wise Sage Kuijt:

http://a.pomf.se/kysigw.webm
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You know. If only our great '98-2002 team had this attitude. So many brilliant players, yet so mentally weak.

Rivyn said:
There is always a player in the World Cup who can not behave himself.

It is not like Figo or Materazzi were any different.

Suddenly it has become popular to dish it out on The Netherlands the further we get in tournaments.
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Even a brilliant master like Zidane with his headbutt in his very last game. Such things are for the books.
 
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WAR recon zero said:
They are programmed to dive because if they don't dive, the fouls would go unnoticed.

Some guys are really theatrical such as neymar. Those are the ones we hate
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Wasn't the German team busted years ago for practicing this?

I'd love to see a system in place where after each game, they review footage and if a player dives without being contacted (regardless of what the ref sees) they get banned for 10 games. Also, if you're on the pitch grabbing and limb and moaning for more than 30 seconds, you should be sent off for the duration of that half so you can get the medical help you so obviously require. Another player can sub in for him.
 
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confuziz

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Seeds said:
It was one world cup ago, The reputation you have going into this cup is based on how you performed in the last one.
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So we actually have a reputation based on one single match? That's...really poor.

People should know better. Most of them do. What was there to hate about the Bergkamps, Kluiverts, Van Nistelrooys & De Boers of the last generations? Or Cruijff, Van Basten?

This is just silly.
 
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Puppet Shadow said:
Wasn't the German team busted years ago for practicing this?

I'd love to see a system in place where after each game, they review footage and if a player dives without being contacted (regardless of what the ref sees) they get banned for 10 games. Also, if you're on the pitch grabbing and limb and moaning for more than 30 seconds, you should be sent off for the duration of that half so you can get the medical help you so obviously require. Another player can sub in for him.
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Some referees have little tolerance for diving. I wish it were widespread.
For your second point, no sub in. Badly injured? Go out and get some magical spray. Your team will deal with the game in the meantime. That sure will stop many from pretending their leg is broken.
 
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Rivyn said:
High time for us to finally win one.

Somehow we always lacked the efficiency to win the finals.
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I really hope you guys pull it off. No matter how bad the referring has been, no team could have made it this far because of that alone, and in the case of Netherlands it's been clear as day they've outclassed their competition so far.
 
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Puppet Shadow said:
Wasn't the German team busted years ago for practicing this?

I'd love to see a system in place where after each game, they review footage and if a player dives without being contacted (regardless of what the ref sees) they get banned for 10 games. Also, if you're on the pitch grabbing and limb and moaning for more than 30 seconds, you should be sent off for the duration of that half so you can get the medical help you so obviously require. Another player can sub in for him.
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A better solution would be to use a stopclock like other sports for injuries. Although FIFA has this idea of football having very laisez faire rules and being able to be played anywhere (which iirc was one of the main arguments against goalline technology). The idea itself has some merit because a lot of Football's appeal is it's simplicity and pace.
 
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I do think however, we would be playing a lot dirtier with Strootman on the field.

Thank god that is not the case. GAF would explode. Wouldn't be able to handle it.
 
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MorganFreeman said:
I don't think the Dutch are a dirty team. Though it probably didn't do you any favours when Van Bommel was in your team. What a mentalist :lol
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Marco van Basten didn't select him because of this, and it was obvious he was the missing link in his squad. We saw the likes of Materazzi and Gattuso winning a world cup at the time.

You pretty much need such a player to get far.
 
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SkylineRKR said:
You know. If only our great '98-2002 team had this attitude. So many brilliant players, yet so mentally weak.
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Reminds me of what de Boer said to the players at the 2010 WC where he said that the '98 generation was "content" with semi finals instead of having this killer mentality of we're going all the way and nothing is gonna stop us.

Oh, what could have been indeed.
 
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Raist said:
Some referees have little tolerance for diving. I wish it were widespread.
For your second point, no sub in. Badly injured? Go out and get some magical spray. Your team will deal with the game in the meantime. That sure will stop many from pretending their leg is broken.
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Not sure if the 'magic spray' used by all teams is the same product, but man... that advertising campaign writes itself:

Guaranteed to cures bruising, cramps, concussions, internal bleeding, phantom decapitation...
 
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