At least link to the original niconico is you are not going to convert the webm with sound.
Super Smash Bros. for 3DS & Wii U Thread 9: F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5
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At least link to the original niconico is you are not going to convert the webm with sound.
If we get more stuff like this because WFT is in Smash, Sakurai is indeed a smart man.
Masked Man
I said wow
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/nintendo_news/140704/whf/index.html
Captain Toad dreaming about joining Smash Bros.
I saw that! They clarify by saying, "Remember: Captain Toad is only dreaming", but I won't give up hope just yet!
Captain Toads been around since Galaxy 1 I believe.
The character has, but his gameplay sections were new to 3D World.
Pic of the day. The Mii Gunner's side smash attack may have the farthest reach of all the side smashes as should be expected from a firearms expert!! Looks like the attack missed this time, though.
Eh.
MrSaturn99
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GRENOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
Starphoenix
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DLC dream is still alive. Miyamoto, make the call.http://www.nintendo.co.jp/nintendo_news/140704/whf/index.html
Captain Toad dreaming about joining Smash Bros.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
It's pretty good update, but damn dat side smash.
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/nintendo_news/140704/whf/index.html
Captain Toad dreaming about joining Smash Bros.
What's the literal translation for what's in his bubble?
Hyperactivity
Banned
Pikachu and MArths in general
StarFox (now a mere experimental game, as all of it's decent entries are)
The 2nd half of this post is not in any way meant to be taken too seriously
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
it really pain me to see Marth getting choked easy and struggling to stocked ZSS. Zero Suit Samus is toooo good so I wouldn't be surprised that she might get nerf.
I've never seen this footage. Man, she does look good. I hope she doesn't get nerfed. It's too early for that kind of stuff!
EDIT - Dude, the gameplay looks incredible. Fast and responsive. Something that was hard to see at all with that big E3 4-way tournament in the states.
Sakurai mentioned at the Roundtable that he wasn't surprised that ZSS won the tournament. It could be that the tournament was based on an older build and he knew that it was unbalanced. Or he just likes ZSS, who knows.
Pic of the day. The Mii Gunner's side smash attack may have the farthest reach of all the side smashes as should be expected from a firearms expert!! Looks like the attack missed this time, though.
That explains why you can't choose them VS. anyone!
j/k
Oh and sorry if I can't join the IRC for now, summer vacations + my niece is at home is eating all my time.
Right now is exactly when big changes are being made. This is probably the last point in development that huge balance changes are possible. I'm sure sakurai and team know the game better than people playing at E3, etc, but I fully expect some input and footage from E3 being used to help w/ some balance input. I doubt she'll get nerfed all that much, but if she does, now will be when they do it. After this, if they do post-release balance patches, I wouldn't expect anything major. The game is still in a liquid state, as far as balance goes.
Beelzebufo
Banned
I guess we we wrong when we were saying Geno/Krystal/Isaac/Whoever fans were the worst earlier. The answer was and still is (and probably always will be): anyone who forces their love of a character on everyone else, and starts making absurd accusations when people don't feel the same way. But then again, I guess I just hate DKC (???).
It'd be even more absurd for a banned character to be at the top of the tier list
Anyway, that Captain Toad thing is just plain mean if they have no plans of making him DLC at all.
SoldnerKei
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I hope she doesn't get nerfed, so she can become top tier and kick everybody in the face with those heels, it'll be like poetic justice after all the hate to the heels
MannyToons
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Captain Toad better be in Smash in some form. I'm not particularly fond of him as a character or anything, it'd just be bullshit for him to be (even slightly) teased only to not even be in the game.
...Whelp, can't say that was the video I was expecting when I clicked. :V
Captain Toad makes no sense as a Smash character. His gimmick is that he can't jump. How do they make that work for this? He's have to be crazy op on the ground to make that happen at all.
Then again, Shulk can't exactly see the future in Smash, and he's currently possible. Maybe it doesn't matter.
Then again, Shulk can't exactly see the future in Smash, and he's currently possible. Maybe it doesn't matter.
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/nintendo_news/140704/whf/index.html
Captain Toad dreaming about joining Smash Bros.
Toad needs to be in Smash at this point. I've been arguing that for a long time, but it wasn't until the Captain Toad game announcement that a lot of other people came around to the idea. Him and a 3rd DKC character remain the two most obvious inclusions that haven't made it in yet.
Troubled Bat
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Mii Gunner, you be crazy.
I need to see more from you!
I need to see more from you!
Beelzebufo
Banned
Did they ever explicitly state that Captain Toad is physically incapable of jumping? I just always assumed he could, but didn't for the sake of gameplay. Surely he like does a little hop or something in Galaxy, right? They could make his jump smaller or something, but I don't see any reason why he wouldn't be able to jump at all.
Actually the worse fans and the ones to feel sorry for are the ones who will take any old mess Sakurai gives out. Like going to a restaurant ordering a meal, finding a cockroach or two inside and still thanking the chef and paying for the meal anyway. Straight up madness. But I guess that's the common day consumer. This isn't charity, this is an exchange.
Beelzebufo
Banned
I'd completely disagree. Those people are much less annoying, and don't depress me like the people who wage crusades over characters do. It's like going to a restaurant that has "cockroach cake" on the menu, and having a nervous breakdown because you wanted "mealworms cake" instead, and EVERYONE wanted mealworms over cockroaches.
But then you buy the cockroach cake anyway even though you didn't have to, and complain about it, while yelling insults at all the people who aren't complaining with you.
Fortunately, Sakurai hasn't given out any "messes" yet.
Capt Toads jumps could be a product of his environment. Potentially too many frames for a jump-- but a spring platform could appear and propel him up into the air or a numerous number of other solutions from his own game.
His chances as playable are nil, but a character whose moveset is based on the environment affecting him has great potential.
Magnet_Man
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"I'd love to 'JOIN THE FIGHT' some day..."
Yeah, the explanation is the backpack. He could take it off sure. And he could just jump. It just feels wrong though, when the whole crux of his gameplay is to be a contrast to Mario's agile moves, unable to jump around.
Oh boy, cake analogy time again!
He keeps serving us this fine cuisine that we didn't order, but it ends up tasting fantastic and becomes our new favorite food. And then later he brings the food we ordered and it tastes just as good!
Beelzebufo
Banned
georgetheplushie
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Watching the game, it's pretty obvious to me that this match really comes down to player skill and not characters. Yes, the Marth player struggles to find kill moves during the match, but they're there--up smash looked surprisingly good even sourspotted, sweetspot bair is really strong, and I know for a fact that Up B is still a monster. Since the Zero Suit player literally goes for grab a total of zero times, all the Marth player would need to do to shift the match in his favor is shield. Marth's grab isn't as good in this game from what we've seen, but it and Up B out of shield are good enough options to shut down the Zero Suit's ground game (more Side Bs from him would make that a little more difficult).
Then again, I might not have any idea what I'm talking about since this is a new game.
No nerfing please. The top is the rightful place for her. I was really disappointed in SSBB about her and the fact she didn't even have a different slot. A character with speed and great moves and finally she seems to be even better.
We still need to see stuff like Snake and Meta Knight though.
Hot Coldman
Banned
takeablake
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What about cookie cake analogies, then?
Neoriceisgood
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Link can jump. Maybe in all of his games, aside from Zelda 1 and 3. Are there others where he can't?
Yeah, they could handle it like that I guess. I mean, I have no doubt they would find a way to make it work and make sense.
Wouldn't the concern then be that Captain Toad's nothing more than a (absolutely adorable) clone of Mario? Without those self-imposed restrictions in 3D World, that's all he would have ended up being.
Not that you can't whip up a moveset from only having one major playable appearance where you're not mechanically different from the other characters, a la Peach. I just think it's kinda weird that he's got such vocal support when his most endearing character trait is that he's not very good at what he does.
Most of the 3D Links have automatic jumping. Or in the case of Young Link, backflips.
Neoriceisgood
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Palutena-esque addition: moveset based on the items & gameplay mechanics found in his puzzles rather than his actual standard moveset.
> pichaxe attack
> minekart + turnips
> movable blocks (possibly as a recovery)
It's pretty easy to take gameplay elements like these and shape them into an unique moveset.
boclfon479
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what is this i dont even....
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
Link has been able to jump since Zelda II.
I said individuals and people seem to take it as a cosign from Nintendo on the whole.
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