Giant Bomb #8 | It's a Hit!

Status
Not open for further replies.

binhoker

Banned
I think I have reached total shooter fatigue. I don't think this looks in the least bit interesting at all. I couldn't be bothered to even play any more wolfenstein and that game seems great.

Also, I once saw a grown man reading a video game novel on public transport. That was my first inkling that as a species, we are equally damaged and doomed.
 

Rainmaker

Banned
I loved the alpha and I'm super into the beta. It's way more fun to play than I was expecting. It jut feels so right in my hands. I really can't believe I am this into a shooter in The Year of Our Wizard: 2014.
 

K.Sabot

Member
I'd disagree, especially when you look at the later parts of the skill tree where certain classes turn into tanks and buffers, not to mention how each of the three has 2 sub-classes. You're literally looking at the first five skills which are given to all characters so they can all solo the same content.

Sure you disagree, but every class and every subclass still deals with the same guns, has a super, has something modifying their melee, and has a movement modification.

Titan gameplay: Shoot, throw a grenade, melee, use a super to clear guys out.
Warlock gameplay: Shoot, throw a different grenade, melee but don't actually melee because warlocks are made of paper, use a super to clear guys out. Maybe replace your glide with a teleport.
Hunter gameplay: Shoot from long range, throw a different grenade, melee, charge your gun up with your super (at least this is different). Maybe do a triple jump when you subclass.

From what I understand the subclasses try to specialize the gameplay styles a bit more through incentivizing specific weapns, and change what your super does (like the Sunsinger's super reviving and healing instead of doing damage).

The class gameplay variety is defined by the mechanics unfortunately, and breaking away from the mechanics as is would make it something that might be too different from Bungie's legacy.

I'm pretty confident that when I pick this up, I'll think that my level 20 Striker won't feel that different from my level 20 Gunslinger. Just like how my Phaselock Siren in Borderlands never really felt too different from my Anarchy Mechromancer because I was still shooting guns at people 70% of the time.
 

Goldmund

Member
I think it's cool that Bungie try something like Destiny, but what I've seen from the game has only strengthened my suspicion that I would have a hard time enjoying it. I think my main gripe is that its aesthetic sophistication clashes with the necessary "nakedness" of its structure and mechanics, being an MMO. Jeff addresses this several times during the QL. All newer games struggle with dissonance* to some extent, but Destiny seems to unwittingly take it to "Ceci n'est pas une pipe." levels. I still want to check it out just to be part of the conversation and because it's a Bungie shooter, but I can't see myself falling in love with it.

* unpopular modifier removed
 

K.Sabot

Member
I have seen worst thing read in public transport.



The game is way more polished than Warframe.
Warframe really stepped up their presentation in the last patch, unfortunately they absolutely destroyed any sense of usability with it. It's really cool when you don't want to do anything with the UI though.
 
I enjoyed the beta video. It seems Jeff's only real complaint (or fear, rather) is that it may end up reusing areas a lot. His praising of the moment to moment gameplay is great to hear and i'm really looking forward to playing it.
 

frostyxc

Member
That is one area I dont really like about Giant Bomb. Some of them look down on some of the nerdier aspects of their fans interests quite a bit. I know its mostly dont in jest but it can still come across as cruel at times.

So they make fun of some stuff that they don't care about. We all do it. We all have different interests and take shots at stuff that we don't enjoy or understand.

I like to take a piss out of people who are employed and possess money. Pfft! Those weirdos! Us C.H.U.D.s are the coolest...
 

Havok

Member
Maybe it's a "duh" thing, but I just noticed that the crosshair in Destiny isn't centered.
Bungie has done that since Halo 2. I'm pretty sure it's their way of encouraging players to look up more, since their environments and maps tend to be very vertical in nature.
 
Dan really didn't know what PSO was?

He said something along the lines of "That was the one on Dreamcast, right?"so i'm assuming he knows of the game. Unless you're implying he just guessed a random system?

Edit: Found the section.
Jeff: "It's like a... from PSO"
Dan: "I'll just nod my head and take your word for it."
Dan: "That was on the Dreamcast, right?"

Doesn't sound like he doesn't know what PSO is, just that he doesn't know that game mechanic. He never asked anything like "What is Phantasy Star?"
 

bender

What time is it?
The mission design in Destiny does feel needlessly disjointed. Nothing in the AI is as impressive as an Elite on legendary difficulty of Halo but maybe things step up in Destiny has you select harder difficulties. Otherwise the combat is very satisfying. Bungie sure does know how to make impactful melee and satisfying shotguns. I appreciate the loot loop in the game. It seems slower than a lot of other loot driven games but you typically find an upgrade or two per mission and the pace is offset by a lot of the armor/weapons having level-ups their own. Didn't really care for the online but I've never been a huge Halo multi fan.

p.s. I love the Fall of Reach book and I'm not a Halo fan outside of the original game. Nerd up!
 
DOTA

Poi9hCM.jpg
 

Phatmac

Member
Destiny hits that itch of shooting guys with numbers coming out of it. I'm disappointed by how they reuse areas and the lack of incentive to explore since you can't find any secret treasure chests like in borderlands. The world should have more loot to be able to get in the open world. The classes also don't feel different enough. Cool downs are way high for grenades.
 

DaBuddaDa

Member
Has something gone wrong in Brad Muir's life? He only seems very happy in that picture. Maybe we should do something to cheer him up.

In all seriousness, Massive Chalice is probably in pretty heavy development right now and I bet he's working a lot of hours! Brad seems to never let anything get him down.
 
I do hope Destiny has more environmental variety.

Do we even know if there are other areas on earth besides old Russia? Unless they are being super secretive I have my doubts. Seems like maybe we will get 1 old Russia sized area per planet.
 

TraBuch

Banned
Wonder if Dan'll talk about Hoodslam on the podcast. I don't think he's mentioned it since going and I've been wondering how it was.
 

GolazoDan

Member
Pretty sure Destiny is gonna have a lot more to it, they just didn't wanna show their hand. If you did a Borderlands beta you'd probably be wandering around the Arid Badlands (or the snowy bit in Borderlands 2). There's a lot of places in the Solar System to go!

I really like the beta so far though and I'm very excited for the full game. Presumably announcing that the PS4 exclusive stuff would stay exclusive into 2015 means this game's gonna have a long lifespan? I really like the idea of it being more of a platform for them to just add more planets, locations, classes, weapons, whatever. This seems like something I'll play for a while so hopefully they don't announce Destiny 2 in a year.
 
I do hope Destiny has more environmental variety.

Do we even know if there are other areas on earth besides old Russia? Unless they are being super secretive I have my doubts. Seems like maybe we will get 1 old Russia sized area per planet.

You should ask Dax or Super-Famicom in the destiny thread. They are the destiny masters.
 

popo

Member
Brad sounds like he is having a grand old time. He is going to be so sleepy all next week.

Also : he should totally sell that rare item while the price is high. The bottom will have fallen out of the market by next week and he can re-buy for a third of the cost. If only it was real money rather than steam bucks, Brad could quit and become a dota day trader.
 

Serra

Member
fuck dota and streams of dota and people playing dota streaming dota and people watching people playing dota streaming dota
 

daydream

Banned
"I thought they were talking about Red Alert 2..."

Oh Vinny.

Edit: nm, haha, didn't expect it to be at the very end. Beast wins again btw, can't beat that unprofessionalism!

Also, I won't ever get tired of saying 'Hire Cara!'

Cara won me over by doing a Janine from Ghostbusters impression. HIRE THIS LADY ASAP!

Cara's constant stream-of-consciousness = perfect for GB, she's a bit like Rorie that way
 

jgminto

Member
Destiny still does absolutely nothing for me. All the MMO-like stuff just turns me off. I can enjoy games like Borderlands or PSO2 if I'm playing with friends but alone they're just the most boring things ever.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Top Bottom